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Data from the National Priorities Project, which researches federal spending, estimates Arkansas’s taxpayers have paid $4.3 billion for the war in Iraq. If the Bush administration gets the extra $190 billion it's now seeking from Congress, the burden on Arkansans will be $5.7 billion. Plus several lives.







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That's some serious change...
I saw that a young man from Newport was killed the other day in Iraq...
And there is still no serious debate inside the Beltway that'll bring our troops home...
The Democrats aren't doing a damn thing but sitting on their hands (espeically the '08 candidates), while the Republicans are bragging on who is the biggest chickenhawk...
Meanwhile, OxyRush called any soldier that disagrees with Monkeyboy's Iraq policy "phony soldiers"...
Where is the Senate resolution on THAT?!
Posted by: rosso
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September 27, 2007 03:57 PM
$190 Billion divided by 31.5 million seconds in a year equals $6,025 per second
($360,000+ per minute) or over $1Million in the time it takes to listen to a favorite song, make a pot of coffee, or a trip to the restroom (providing you are not Larry Craig)
and of course, the cost of borrowing (interest) is not included.
Posted by: muleboy303
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September 27, 2007 04:27 PM
according to transcripts of the spanish prime minister at the time bush told him that saddam in 2003 made an offer that for 1 billion he would go into exile. we turned him down. it would have been a lot cheaper and cost a lot fewer lives if monkeyboy had not had to have his damn war. evidently this was just before the war. last night the white house refused to comment on this. this could have been avoided and hussein could have been gone but the little bastard in the white house had too look cool and be a war president. he should be executed if this is true. this is unbelievable. he had to have a war just to have one. they wanted to have their neat little war to happen quickly and be met with flowers and be over in a few weeks with few casualities.
Posted by: zonker
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September 27, 2007 04:39 PM
>>OxyRush called any soldier that disagrees with Monkeyboy's Iraq policy "phony soldiers"...<<
When a fat-assed, dopehead, draft dodger like Lush Gumball says anything about any soldier he should be tarred and feathered, or worse.
He and Bush make great examples of how dope and booze ruin one's ability to think and creates moronic liars out of average people, so moronic they become Republican figureheads.
Posted by: eLwood
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September 27, 2007 05:22 PM
I guess the Demcrat's plan is to just wear the administration and the Republicans down.
The problem is that it's wearing the country down. And the longer this goes on the more plans the right wing can put into place to bounce back later.
But wait: I assume the democrats have a plan. They do, don't they?
Here's an article from dailykos on Blackwater securtiy guards. This article makes me want to load my old musket and head for Mexico... "Blackwater: Are You Scared Yet?"
Click on the URL or my name...
Posted by: spunkrat
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September 27, 2007 05:39 PM
Now we will have a choice on whether to elect war-mongering Pryor:
Green Party Submits Signatures To Get On 2008 Ballot
Wednesday, September 26, 2007 10:12 PM CDT
LITTLE ROCK -- The Green Party of Arkansas submitted signatures to the secretary of state's office Wednesday, seeking to put candidates on the 2008 election ballot.
The party submitted 17,197 signatures, according to Fort Smith lawyer Rebekah Kennedy, who has announced she is running as a Green Party candidate against U.S. Sen. Mark Pryor, D-Ark.
bluename
Posted by: eLwood
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September 27, 2007 05:39 PM
"When a fat-assed, dopehead, draft dodger like Lush Gumball says anything about any soldier he should be tarred and feathered, or worse."
Ditto...except I would have added pimple-butt...but I'm not as nice as you, Lwood.
If we have to rely on the current Dems to get us out of Iraq hell, we're screwed. They are less than useless and Mark Pryor is NO Democrat! It's nice to know that we'll go down in history as the society that chose war/cheap toys over our children's healthcare. Future generations will either laugh or cry.
Posted by: zelda
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September 27, 2007 05:57 PM
http://www.kennedy2008.org/
Miss Z just go to above to make arrangements for your contributions against Pryor.
Posted by: eLwood
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September 27, 2007 06:17 PM
Scott Ritter, who was one of those ignored by Bushco, was a UN weapons inspector in Iraq who said their were no WMD's before our last attack. He has written that everyone needs to set aside Iraq for the moment and stop ignoring the fact we are about to attack Iran (he says between now and Spring '08) if we want to stop it at all.
Mark Pryor did it again this week and voted for more Bush/Cheney war. This time an attack on Iran. Blanche Lincoln much to my delight did not vote with Mark. Kudos to Senator Lincoln.
Zonker, Looks like a hanging offense to me.. will any of the countless treasonous acts ever stick on these neo fascists invading our government and the rest of the world?
I sure wish China would cut off our line of credit.. It must stretch into our great grand kids territory by now. And besides all that we wouldn't be slaughtering innocent people for no good reason.
Posted by: Eureka Springs, AR
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September 27, 2007 06:29 PM
Dan Rather, Filed suit against CBS and the real goal is deposition of the president. Finally the truth about his draft dodging will be told. (and possibly dodged drug use while flying???)
(pdf of the lawsuit at my name)
Sydney Blummenthal at salon.com has more
http://www.salon.com/opinion/blumenthal/2007/09/27/dan_rather_suit/index_np.html
Posted by: Eureka Springs, AR
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September 27, 2007 06:52 PM
Dare we think that Rebekah Kennedy can pull off the impossible? Can we rally the forces behind her and knock Warmonger Pryor out of his seat? God......it's a wonderful dream! Ms Kennedy is plenty smart and able. Her heart is good and her mind is sound. How much help can we expect from the Arkansas Democratic Party? Surely they're sick of Pryor's Benedict Arnold impersonation by now?
If every anti-Pryor person on this blog got out and pushed as hard as we could for the next year.....would that be enough to get Rebekah Kennedy elected? Or would it give the race to a Republican? At this point a real Republican, one honest enough to admit to being a Republican would beat the hell out of Mark Pryor. It's always better to join up with a wolf rather than a wolf in sheep's clothing. At least you know where they stand and what to expect. I hate seeing Pryor blotch the Democrat's already blotchy reputation with his Republican warmongering torturing votes. How embarrassing!
It's too early to know if Blanche is coming around, but YAY that she has been voting more like a Democrat lately. We have to get Pryor out of office! If we have to bug every whorehouse and get him like Vitter or if we have to watch every bathroom stall and nail him like Larry Craig or if we have to send in the FBI on him like old Sen. Screaming Stevens of Alaska or catch him in a nappy moment like Imus.
He has to go! If Minnesota can get so fed up with R's & D's that they elect Jesse Ventura.....Arkansas can elect Rebekah Kennedy! Let's do it!
Posted by: Deathbyinches
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September 27, 2007 07:27 PM
Gen. Wes Clark
September 27, 2007
"You've heard a number of times from Jon Soltz of VoteVets.org. Do you consider him a phony soldier?
"According to Rush Limbaugh, Jon Soltz, an Iraq war veteran, is a phony soldier.
"Today, Media Matters reports that Rush Limbaugh said that those troops who come home and want to get America out of the middle of the religious civil war in Iraq are "phony soldiers."
"The question is, would Rush make these outrageous and offensive comments to Jon's face?
"Rush Limbaugh has never worn the uniform in his life, yet he's got the moral standing to pass judgment on the men and women who risked their lives for this nation?
"Polls have shown that the majority of troops on the ground in Iraq, and those who have returned, do not back the President's failed policy.
"Does Rush believe, then, that the majority of the US Armed Forces are "phony?"
"Major Generals John Batiste and Paul Eaton left the military and have spoken out against the Bush Administration's failed policies. These are former commanders in Iraq, and they have challenged the Administration for its stubborn refusal to listen to those commanders on the ground who have sent up warning after warning.
"Does Rush believe that highly decorated Major Generals are "phony soldiers?"
"Finally, recall the members of the 82nd Airborne in Iraq who wrote a New York Times op-ed, urging for a change in course in Iraq, and suggesting it was time to figure out the exit strategy. Two of them just died.
"Does Rush believe these young troops are "phony soldiers?"
"Democracy demands discussion, disagreement, and dissent. It is the natural expression of our freedom. To dishonor the service of our troops because they have a different viewpoint is unconscionable."
Posted by: durangokid
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September 27, 2007 07:30 PM
Wes Clark is a queerish douche. See link at my name.
Posted by: Dinner at Doe's
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September 27, 2007 07:45 PM
WHEN IS MAX COMING HOME????
Posted by: jazzy
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September 27, 2007 07:58 PM
Oh, and by the way, DBI = Jo Carson.
Posted by: Dinner at Doe's
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September 27, 2007 08:05 PM
d @ d' you are too funny.......and you're also a prick.
Posted by: Charles Eddie Smith
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September 27, 2007 09:11 PM
Wow, so D@D subscribes to The Advocate. Fancy that!
Posted by: durangokid
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September 27, 2007 09:16 PM
The Advocate, now that's a sophisticated, in depth, polished sort of stuff that smells like pig shit.
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Posted by: eLwood
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September 27, 2007 10:08 PM
As a gay man I say to your face D@D: Feck off!
Here's the link to "Blackwater: Are You Scared Yet?" on the dailkos. I screwed it up earlier:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/9/27/163547/214
Posted by: spunkrat
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September 27, 2007 10:08 PM
While Bushco is throwing money down the rabbit hole here's a smidgin of how it's being wasted in NWA, with mucho support and lobbying from Sen. Marky Pryor:
Abstinence Program To Receive $500,000
Wednesday, September 26, 2007 10:12 PM CDT
Reality Check of Lowell will receive a $532,509 grant from the Department of Health and Human Services for a community abstinence education program, it was announced Wednesday by members of the U.S. Legislature.
Reality Check, a 501 (c)(3) not-for-profit organization, provides health- and sex-related educational programs to schools and community groups that help "restore value to every aspect of students' lives," according to the organization's Web site.
Boozman and Pryor wrote letters to the Department of Health and Human Services in support of Reality Check's application in April, said Ryan James, Boozman's communications director."
(several studies have shown that abstinence programs don't work. additionally Reality Check sends teachers , at low wages, to teach who are not degreed and who are not certified to teach but hey, when did educational credentials matter to wingnuts?)
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Posted by: eLwood
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September 27, 2007 10:18 PM
As far as Mark Pryor goes:
He should lose every black vote in Arkansas. Seems like I read somewhere he bought a house in the Hillcrest neighborhood. And rather than send his kids to LRSD which is 70% black, he chose a Little Rock private school instead. Which means 70% white. He probably doesn't want his children around kids he thinks are inferior.
If LRSD was good enough for the Huckabees and Clintons it should be good enough for Mark.
Will African Americans turn against Mark? Hope so. I'll never vote for the SOB.
Posted by: spunkrat
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September 27, 2007 10:23 PM
Why thank you, Mr Wood...I believe I'll do just that.
I wonder if the rest of country is, like me, awakening to the realization that we didn't win shit in 06.
Posted by: zelda
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September 27, 2007 10:26 PM
eureka i noticed that that story about the spanish prime minister made it on olberman tonight. it usually takes 2 or 3 days to get from the net to the tv news. this is getting to be a pretty big story quickly. if the white house refused to talk about it last night instead of deny it there must be something to it. just think, we could have done with out this war. the only reason those kids died was so the little bastard in the white house could say he was a war president. i remember he made that comment early in his presidency, something about the only presidents that were remembered were the ones who won wars.
Posted by: zonker
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September 27, 2007 10:32 PM
Oh to be Jo Carson! I'd get to live in a nicer neighborhood. I'd get to drive a better car. I'd know ever so much more about prehistoric fossils. I'd get to be helpful to children caught in a bad situation in life. I'd get to sleep with a tall lawyer. I'd have my own boobs and wouldn't have to depend on the goody generosity of my wife. Oh to be Jo Carson!
Let's add this up.....DD doesn't like Wes Clark and likes Mark Pryor's Republican cross-dressing routine....so he's either John Boozman or just one of the 30%ers spreading the love. Or maybe it's a mean old women originally from Benton County whose still talked about in unpleasant terms. Some jerks ya just never forget.
No matter....America has de-constructed to the point that we can't do a lot of things the old way. We can't continue to elect dupes. Nowadays not every Nazi is wearing a uniform and all the rats aren't just in the Republican Party.
We've entered one of those strange times when America doesn't seem like America. We had one between 1800 and 1810, most of the 1850s, for sure between 1861 and 1865, the 20s, the McCarthy era, the late 60s and once again, now. To right our country drastic measures will have to be taken. To defeat the Cheneyist, the weak will be tossed out along with the evil.
The content of Mark Pryor's heart is as yet unknown to us, but his actions place him squarely in the Cheney camp...so he must go. Blanche Lincoln has 2 more years to choose a side, may she choose wisely and join with those who wish to return America to what it once was, not remake it in Dick Cheney's image.
Heroes don't know they're heroes in the middle of battle, it's only later after the dust has settled that those around them realize heroic acts have been performed. Never have we needed heroes more, not weaklings afraid to take a stand.
Today it's impossible to know if America is coming or going, if our lack of action at home will bring the failures in Iraq to our shores or just use up our young for a while. For the first time in our lifetime, we're unsure if America is the good guy or the bad guy....if our most dangerous enemies are 7000 miles away or walking among us in suits with flag lapel pins.
This is not to be taken lightly because the future of our kids is at stake....the future of our country and the world is at stake. America going down the tubes will suck the rest of the world with it. Our leaders lusting for oil and personal gain are failing us. Our leaders chasing a crazy neo-con dream of world domination will doom us. Capitalism Christ will nail each of us to a cross of pain, misery and death. We've lost our way and Cheney Republicans and their dupes are taking advantage of our stumble.
Do not vote for Mark Pryor.
Posted by: Deathbyinches
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September 27, 2007 11:21 PM
Harpers magazine has an article suggesting a general strike in the October issue (also online for free).
Blackwater just got awarded 15 billion for fighting the war on drugs.. a private army who answers to no one is now fighting the war on drugs. Which means like Iran contra that the bad guys are handling both sides of the game again. Meanwhile late last week the Senate started conducting a bit of oversight on the likes of Blackwater and Sen Harry Reid who is on the Senate Policy Committee said during the meeting, "who is KBR?" So if anything ever comes of that oversight it looks like it is going to take a long while.
Dan Rather's got the Bush AWOL and much more lawsuit in the mix..
The freaking head of Spain and Spanish journalists have another horrific documentation of Bush planning ahead of all his lies and taking us to war for oil and fat no bid contracts.
And we had the Senate and House overwhelmingly approve attacking Iran with absolutely no verifiable evidence to back up any of the things our Bush administration is claiming about Iran.. I found a map that was supposedly drawn up very early in Cheney/Bush years.. It is a map of the middle east redrawn as they intended it to be someday.. Exposed only by accident through a FOIA request (Map at my name) It fits much of what Zbig Brezinsky has said over the years that Cheney and Co want.
Even Huckabee said about the war on drugs tonight on PBS/Tavis Smiley debates that we need to quit putting people in prison for things we don't like and just put the people in that scare us. I just had to laugh at that.
Clinton, Obama and Edwards all said last night during their debate the most awful neo nut statements about troops staying over there through their first administration years at least.. Not one front running Dem suggested they would really get out of the killing sands! Evidently they all want to be war criminals from day one right along with Bush and Cheney. We are under a one war party rule at the moment and no opposition to anything party exists (at least not with any clout). Unless this country puts Kucinich, Richardson or maybe Dodd in office we are truly screwed. Even Wes Clark is running as fast as he can to the dark side now that he has thrown his hat into the Clinton ring.
To much of what is happening is intentional, it's planned. The coup here has happened in many ways. We don't have a say, we are not informed of the plans much less allowed in on the debate which never takes place in public. Almost all of our liberties are no more or can be easily taken away in hours. We have reports of loose nukes flying over our (AR) heads to the very base in Louisiana which sends planes directly to the mid east. And all of this is not reported in main stream media. Most folks have no idea at all.
dbi is right... this is not America and only Americans can wake up and demand it come back even just a little. All branches of our government are deeply corrupted to one degree or another. Whats most worrisome is the fact most important operations are now privatized meaning noone is accountable or really knows what the heck is or is not going on. We are in times where a lot of bad can happen very quickly yet we actually do have a warning if only we will admit it and do something dramatic like a strike, like demand impeachment ands demand no more or escalated war.
I don't know what the process is in AR, but several states have had bills brought forth to their state legislature to impeach Bush (NM a couple of times).. Folks in northern and southern CA have recently moved to remove their entire city council for considering (against the citizens will) allowing Blackwater to build bases and training camps in or near their communities. AZ has almost enough in the works right now to recall Senator McCain. it is way past time we look into removal or official censure of Pryor.. something must be done, he is either mad or very very stupid and naive.
The fight is happening in many ways and small victories are happening but we need to do a lot more. We need to keep Cheney and Bush from bombing the Iran and raising our oil/gas to what 10 or 20 bucks a gallon, if we can get it at all? How about a 10 to 20 dollar loaf of bread if you can get it? Bombing Iran will make that happen in a days to a very few weeks!
Bush and Cheney don't care what it costs us because their profits keep going up anyway. Think!
I hope I am wrong about some of these thoughts but the evidence just keeps pouring in from to many directions... like the actual votes in the Senate and House on out from there. It is far to much evidence and far to dangerous to just sit by and ignore like an oncoming train trying to say no no, you are just imagining things.
Waiting for the next election is just pure fantasy.
Posted by: Eureka Springs, AR
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September 28, 2007 12:47 AM
RE: Cheney's MidEast
Nice of them to make a horseshoe out of "Arab Shia State" which loops around the Persian Gulf. Yet it leaves Iran bordering on the N side of Strait of Hormuz, the critical lane where oil must pass. I noted Bush/chen buddies in U.A.E. gets a little larger so they control the tip of peninsula and Oman gets moved Southward and East pushing tiny Oman off the point. Don't think Oman would enjoy losing their deep ports to Cheney's will.
If they do more than think about this it will be perpetual war, intense war, for 25 years which as you say wouldn't bother Bushco crowd at all cause they will profit. Just think of how long the conflict has continued since Islamic lands were taken away and given to Israel in 1948.
This rearrangement will never happen. Not in my lifetime.
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Posted by: eLwood
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September 28, 2007 01:47 AM
I agree it will never happen yet I don't think we are anywhere near holding back from trying. Did you notice how much Pakistan shrinks or how the Persian Gulf coast of Iran changes hands. I know there are plans for pipelines through Iraq and Jordan as well as one from the Caspian Sea through Pakistan...which might very well be about to experience a coup of its own government. Only nukes could begin to create the needed casualties and chaos Cheney Bush and the neo nuts in aipac, pnac, and Israel want.
Posted by: Eureka Springs, AR
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September 28, 2007 02:14 AM
Before we become too patriotic let's not give up faith that our Republic will survive the onslaught of fear and greed. It has before. I recall the Nixon era when many were frightened of martial law and thought it inevitable. Here's a little light at the end of tunnel but there are always appeals to the Bush appointees:
"U.S. judge rules 2 provisions of Patriot Act unconstitutional
1 day ago
PORTLAND, Ore. - Two provisions of the U.S.A. Patriot Act are unconstitutional because they allow search warrants to be issued without showing probable cause, a federal judge ruled Wednesday.
U.S. District Judge Ann Aiken ruled the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, as amended by the Patriot Act, "now permits the executive branch of government to conduct surveillance and searches of American citizens without satisfying the probable cause requirements of the Fourth Amendment."
Portland lawyer Brandon Mayfield sought the ruling in a lawsuit against the U.S. government after he was mistakenly linked by the FBI to the Madrid train bombings that killed 191 people in 2004.
The government apologized and settled part of the lawsuit for US$2 million after admitting a fingerprint was misread. But as part of the settlement, Mayfield retained the right to challenge parts of the Patriot Act, which greatly expanded the authority of law enforcers to investigate suspected acts of terrorism.
Mayfield claimed secret searches of his house and office under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act violated the constitutional guarantee against unreasonable search and seizure. Aiken agreed with Mayfield, repeatedly criticizing the government.
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Posted by: eLwood
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September 28, 2007 05:23 AM
I haven't read any above comments but I this is what we got to do.. the U.S. needs to file bankruptcy.
WE could have bought and paid for Iraq with the money he has thrown away over there.
Posted by: chasv
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September 28, 2007 01:02 PM
IT time for the bible to be heard.
It says that men war after their own lust.
It sounds like that is why Iraq is the battlefield.. It could spread all over the muslim world, maybe.
Posted by: chasv
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September 30, 2007 04:08 PM