Found: Backbone -- UPDATE
Sen. Hillary Clinton will oppose the Mukasey appointment to be attorney general. "I am deeply troubled by Judge Mukasey’s continued unwillingness to clearly state his views on torture and unchecked Executive power."
Arkansas's senators have not committed. Mark Pryor said earlier that he was leaning toward support, but would await completion of the vetting. Blanche Lincoln issued this statement:
"The credibility of the Justice Department suffered under the command of former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales. The Justice Department must be led by a person who will act independently and not simply follow the President’s directives blindly. I hope that in Mr. Mukasey, the President has nominated a person that will be dedicated to the rule of law and the rights and constitutional freedoms of every American. Concerns have been raised about Mr. Mukasey’s responses to some questions late in his confirmation hearing before the Senate Judiciary Committee. I will examine Mr. Mukasey’s record carefully before deciding how to vote on his confirmation."
Seems simple to me. Waterboarding is torture. Torture has been considered un-American, since George Washington's famous declaration, until George Bush came along. I don't want a torture advocate as attorney general.






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A UCLA Professor (University of California-Los Angeles - hardly a member of the VRWC) says he has problems with Mrs. Rodham Clinton's unwillingness to clearly state her views.
"If HRC can't say "No waterboarding," her "No torture" isn't worth the spit behind it."
From the New York Times...
Posted by: Arkansas Red
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October 30, 2007 12:38 PM
Since you like to quote TPM, I am surprised you miss this nugget, Max:
"We urgently need an Attorney General who will check the vast and unconstrained executive powers that have been accumulated under the Bush-Cheney Administration. Judge Mukasey has failed to send a clear signal that he understands the legal and moral issues that are at stake for our country, and so I cannot support him.
"No nominee for Attorney General should need a second chance to oppose torture and the unnecessary violation of civil liberties. It's time to stop the political parsing and to close the legal loopholes. Waterboarding is torture, and so are other 'enhanced interrogation techniques' like 'head-slapping' and 'extreme temperatures.' It's time to reclaim our values and reaffirm our Constitution."
Funny how that came out 19 hours earlier.
From somebody else.
Gotta love that "leadership."
Posted by: Arkansas Red
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October 30, 2007 12:47 PM
Hillary must be feeling very comfortable with her campaign to risk offending the most powerful constituency in southern New York.
Posted by: muleboy303
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October 30, 2007 01:06 PM
Muleboy, there are depths to which even south New Yorkers won't fall. Maybe even Ark inbRed won't go there. I think Hillary has been probing those depths to discover her comfort zone.
Posted by: eLwood
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October 30, 2007 01:28 PM
and it is good, as AT suggested, to get back to vertebrate, political zoology.
Posted by: eLwood
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October 30, 2007 01:30 PM
Oh how I dream of a real Attorney General of the United States! Mukasey looked good at first, but get on The Google and see if you can find a couple of video clips of Mukasey NOT answering basic questions about torture and wire tapping and Cheney's ideas about the "unitary executive". Unfortunately, Mukasey is a Cheney puppet and will be no better than Alberto Gonzales. When will America catch a break?
Posted by: Deathbyinches
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October 30, 2007 01:32 PM
I don't think we need to waterboard.
If we could just record Mrs. Rodham Clinton's laugh and blare it over the loudspeakers, that really should be enough.
Posted by: Arkansas Red
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October 30, 2007 01:40 PM
Strange I must be but I find Hillary's laugh, labeled a "cackle" by a drunken wingnut commentator, very enjoyable. Compared to Monkey Boy's huh, huh, huh shoulder-shruging goonie stuff she is very charming. Maybe she won't be publicly feeling up a German Chancellor when she "cackles."
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Posted by: eLwood
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October 30, 2007 02:04 PM
I think Blanche should also consider Mrs. Rodham Clinton's waterboarding position as well.
Posted by: Arkansas Red
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October 30, 2007 04:35 PM
Personal insults are just par for the sexist course, lwood. Little girls get their knuckles rapped early on for stepping outside of male safety zones (which are, in general, minuscule)...which is what makes someone like Hillary uniquely wonderful and qualified. (She's use to dealing with all the right-wing goobers and a cheating husband so Putin et al should be a breeze.) When all else fails and a girl is still smarter, more successful than most of her male peers (Hillary) some men only have personal attacks to resort to. It's kinda sad, really...all that wasted blustering just to hide all those insecurities. 2008 will be a hoot if the worst 'they've' got to throw at Hillary is snide remarks about her voice, her weight, her love life, blah blah.
Posted by: zelda
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October 30, 2007 04:38 PM
She has a love life?
Now you are spreading rumors, Zelda.
Posted by: Arkansas Red
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October 30, 2007 05:12 PM
For such a smart person she sure did wait an awful long time to make this statement.. Senator Dodd has shown true leadership by standing up against Mukasey and the current round of FISA for Telecoms not citizens legislation in both the House and Senate right now. Edwards, Dodd, and Kucinich all have more experience than Hillary and they have all shown more leadership in their sleep than Hillary has in the last 25 years. And Hilary voted for this FUBAR needless war without ever admitting it was wrong!
Zelda, V4H.. either of you run for dogcatcher or president and you have my door to door canvassing support with a big fat check for your campaign! But please do not be blinded by gender preference at such a pivotal moment.. We need honest open leadership and it really needs to be someone, anyone who will actually listen to the base of the D party as they lead.. HC is not that kind of woman, never has been. Hillary will listen and capitulate to the right at every turn.. Both Clintons almost always have.
We also need a candidate who will actually campaign with her party in a way which will bring as many new (non blue dog) Dems to Congress, especially the House.. Both Clintons have a very poor record of pulling up and supporting the best of the D party congressional candidates.. indeed they lost D control of Congress last time they were in the White House.. and they made it possible for Lieberman reelection last year..
It's time to rally behind Edwards now... He is the one candidate who can beat the tar out of each and every Gooper by the widest of margins... Considering all of the Rovian math and electronic voting machines are still in play...we really need a resounding defeat.. not a DLCer who will play the right so much they may or may not win by a couple of percentage points. Edwards is the big leader and will win by a landslide if Dems give him half a chance.
And while I am at it... Senator Mark Pryor... wake up and stop the torture! It is a part of our Constitution and you took an oath!
Posted by: Eureka Springs, AR
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October 30, 2007 05:16 PM
I hear you, eureka, and I've bitched about Hillary's war treachery/etc. more than I've praised her. But it's not possible nor desirable to downplay how much a woman p0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000residency will mean to the country...especially our young women. Th00000000000000000000000000000000000
Posted by: zelda
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October 30, 2007 05:47 PM
Uh oh...I swear, my dog did it. Sorry.
Posted by: zelda
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October 30, 2007 06:20 PM
Well far be it from me to understate the power of women! Y'all are my favorite sex after all... and we need many more in office... **sigh** I just hoped we would try someone other than an American version of Maggie Thatcher first.
Posted by: Eureka Springs, AR
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October 30, 2007 06:37 PM
"She has a love life?" - ARkie Rouge
So, Red, does your love life cause you to type with the other hand now and then?
Posted by: Jake da Snake
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October 30, 2007 06:47 PM
Me too, eureka...I sure wish our first women leaders, like Clinton/Pelosi/(even Condi), were not so, well, male in their good-old-boy approach to things. But I've decided that the system is so patriarchally defined that perhaps the first woman to break through a presidential glass ceiling has to be more male than female...more corrupted than critical...more Hillary than, say, an Elizabeth (Edwards). Maybe the next round will truly give us the first woman president. (Nevertheless, I'll be thrilled with any Democrat in 08; and I'll be especially thrilled when the country is at long last saying 'Madam President.')
Posted by: zelda
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October 31, 2007 09:58 AM
Of course she has a love life, red...even brilliant, man-hating, big-butted, liberal lesbians with shrill voices have love lives. Even frigid, sexually deviant white country club males with shriveled-up penises have love lives.
Posted by: zelda
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October 31, 2007 10:02 AM