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Pryor won't dis Limbaugh

Forty-one Democratic senators signed a letter castigating Rush Limbaugh for his remark that military who criticized the war in Iraq were "phony" soldiers. Mark Pryor was one of nine who didn't sign.

Here's Joe Conason's description of the episode in event any trolls try to claim Limbaugh has been misquoted.

More good anti-Rush stuff here, including a link to Wesley Clark's petition to get Limbaugh off taxpayer-financed armed forces radio, where he's free to trash Democrats as traitors and talk about phony soldiers and belittle a vet wounded in Iraq as suicide bomber.

Comments

As a veteran it would be an understatement to say I'm not disappointed in Mark Pryor's record in the Senate and this is just another disappointment. At this point he doesn't seem to be for our troops or veterans!

To side with an old OxyContin driven blabbermouth and fellow Chickenhawk Limbaugh and not our troops is beyond rational behavior for a senate democrat. Perhaps is would have been different if he had served his country.

It's doubtful that he would be in the Senate in the first place if it weren't for this father's career. When history remarks favorable about Senator Pryor it will be the statesman -- his father not him!

Mark Pryor had better watch out. The Republicans see the sharks in the water and know that people are unhappy with him. The Democrats might want to look at finding someone to run against him because a lot of loyal Democrats are about fed up with his Republican leanings. In my opinion Mark isn't anywhere as good as his dad was.

How about I just say what we're all thinking: Phony Democrat.

Adios, Mark. Hope you are a one term senator as was little Timmy.

I'll vote for Huck for prez before I'll ever vote for Mark Pryor for anything. He signed the Senate letter condemning MoveOn's Petraeus ad, but wouldn't sign the letter condemning Rush...damn...a political lynching is in order.

I'd call him a turncoat but other than his father I've never seen any evidence that he ever was a Democrat.

While he has always been good about having a staffer answer my letters, Pryor just doesn't seem to have a clue...

My very, very last letter regarded an Iraq vote and I specifically asked to be permanently removed from his fundraising and mailing lists...

There is no way any votes will be cast for him in my household...

Arch is right: phony Democrat...

Can't wait for 08! Joyce Elliot, can you hear us asking you to take Marky Mark's seat?

Don't take this as an endorsement for Markie. It's not. I'm ready for a viable replacement for the guy and have been since he was AG.
But the call for the letter signing is no more than inconsequential political posturing, just like Bushco's rant against MoveOn.org's "General BetrayUs".
Get a grip, Washington. There are plenty of real, life-changing, if indeed not life-threatening, political issues to be dealt with out there. Limbaugh and MoveOn.org won't make the history books. The fall of the United States, like the fall of the Roman empire, will.
Considering world history, the fall is inevitable, but common sense and hard work -- ho boy, are we in trouble! -- on the part of our lawmakers may ease us to a softer landing.

I don't know or care about what Limbaugh said or didn't say about "phony" soldiers last week, but having a vote in the Senate to condemn the talk show for what he said is a little to close to government censorship for my taste.

I agree that empty government tirades against Rush/MoveOn are a ridiculous waste of time. And that's what makes Mark such a complete anti-Democratic pompous Judas. If he'd taken a 'principled' stand against ALL such shallow grandstanding, that'd be one thing (and a good thing), but he didn't. If he couldn't even manage to be on the Democratic side when signing some silly, non-binding proclamation, of what use to the Democratic Party is he? Oh wait...that assumes that the rest of the Dems aren't of the Pryor ilk.

The silver lining is that it should be perfectly clear now which side of the political fence Mark's tending: Lieberman's.

How bout if all the Senators/Congresspersons simply did their job and cut out the little side show shit they seem to revel in. Maybe if they actually solved problems. Hell,maybe if they even actually could even frame problems with some depth and long-term vision instead of getting caught up in the too often partisan, sound-bite, posturing, dumbed-down, freak show stuff they typcially like to mess with. Then we might just be better off in ten years and they'd have a legacy that actually advanced the country. But that is far from the on the ground reality. I truly think that calling what they do "Public Service" is the big joke on all of us. How is that they looked up to? Are we all stupid? We must be for the most part. They all suck. Individually, most of them are spinless, in-over-their-heads ego-maniacs. Collctively they all just suck and really don't do much of any long-term positive consequence. Why we expect otherwise is our own fault.

Look at Global Warming. Pretty apparent that the shit is really going to hit the fan with this sooner than later and we really do nothing that amounts to anything that makes a difference. Nor did we address ten years ago.

Would that we had some real leaders somewhere to rise to the real challenges.

ooops. I certainly didn't mean "spinless". Meant "spineless". That's more like it.

Hey could it be that Rush was pointing a finger at those retired millitary and some politicians running for office who are forever condemning the war and how it is being handled?
At first all of them said it ok to go to war... They are the phony soldiers.

I think we should have come home right after sadam was captured.
Let them work out their own problems. ?? who knows for sure?
Why are our bright young men having to die for that piece of world? To me being over there is not protecting america.

Who are the possible Democratic challengers to take on Mark Pryor? Joyce Elliott? Vic Snyder? Mike Beebe? Bob Johnson? Shane Broadway? Rodney Slater?

Hard for me to imagine a Repub would have a prayer. They've already shot themselves in the foot, have the least popular prez ever producing really bad baggage, and now Bush vetos health care for children.

How did Pryor and Lincoln vote when the Senate condemned Imus?

ALL Mark Pryor is thinking about is getting reelected and all those republicans who elected him from the republican neo nonconsecutive DLC group in the Democratic party would be pissed if he said or sign anything that called down that known( drug addict )RUSH..... Mark Pryor can't afford to speak against Rush cause he will lose his dino republican neocon DLC supporters that'S what this story is about keeping Mark Pryors (republican dino democatic base voters money and supporters . I'M voting Green party this year I'm so sick of democrats and their lies .... they are became no better than the lying republican warmongers VOTE HIM OUT OF OFFICE , in 2008.

I Thank god we have another choice this election , THE GREEN PARTY .

"They all suck."
Indeed they do.

In order for virtually all Senators and Congresspersons ability to avoid the original MoveOn advertisement which was a valid but painful question.. We have witnesses a stunning bit of kabuki initiated by the Goebels (Rush and KKKarl) wing of the republican party first and embraced by more than half of the Democrats.. Let us remember the original on air use of the Betrayal word was coined early this year by Rush himself against Sen. Hagel because Hagel was showing signs of changing his stand on supporting the war in Iraq. Let us remember that the troops themselves were the first to develop the term Betrayus in Iraq.

Now after all the following events the Senate and House has managed to make this some sort of free speech issue on several occasions and each time come down against free speech as long as they are not forced to face the actual betrayal.

Mark like almost every Republican and about half a dozen Democrats in the senate is nothing more than one of Cheneys 'good Germans' and so are an astonishing number of loyal party followers/voters in Arkansas.

And now even Wes Clark is running around like focus on the family trying to jump on the bandwagon against free speech.. by trying to have Rush removed from armed services radio... An admiral goal (no pun intended) but a very flawed even dangerous way of going about it, imo.

Mark Pryor is about like Bush... if he is for or against something then you know even if it sounds correct it probably isn't and it probably means a lot of our blood and treasure will be used to kill or torture a lot of innocent people while our liberties are simply tossed aside frivolously.

Mark is old enough to have spent most of his early years saying the pledge of allegiance on a daily basis for many years.. I sometimes wonder if he was taught an edited version of the pledge... One where liberty and justice were replaced with one word, security.

As long as Arkansas Democrats tolerate Mark we are no better than the Good Germans of the 1930's.

"I Thank god we have another choice this election , THE GREEN PARTY ."

And I want to thank the Green Party for backing Ralph so hard in 2000 & 2004. Thanks Greenies.

As usual, you report something as fact that isn't so. What a surprise. Having heard the actual comments live and several times since then I'm not surprised that y'all would be so eager to lie about them or believe that he said something that he didn't. The democrats in congress are trying desperately to distract from the fact that they are totally ineffective and have been devastated by their inability to accomplish anything. It's amazing what will keep y'all excited. They don't have to do anything and y'all line up to cheer.

ARK. BLOG: As Conason points out, Limbaugh and Fox have edited the remarks to put them in the best possible light. I heard the remark. He referred to phony soliders, plural. His intent was clear. He's weaseling now, understandably.

And I want to thank the Green Party for backing Ralph so hard in 2000 & 2004. Thanks Greenies.Posted by: 70%er


You can peddle that Nader MYTH somewhere else no offence its just not true . and not the same green party as years gone by I'm so grateful I now have a choice in Arkansas because the dems and IND and republicans are not worth my vote time or money they never support issues i care about nor do they yhelp the common man in any way shape or form.... its simple they like war I don't support this WAR IN IRAQ you support this war when you vote for DEMs, IND or republicans period .... i plan to vote for real honest people who don't support this WAR the game is over with my support and the democrats .... they have let me and all american down their last time.....

What are we gonna do with Mark Pryor? Very simple...VOTE HIM OUT OF OFFICE NEXT YEAR! We don't have to spent a ton of money or labor 12 hours in the hot sun or give up our first born child. All we have to do is go into the polling booths in November, 2008 and vote for anyone BUT Mark Pryor. Problem solved. With Pryor knocked off maybe Blanche will pay a little closer attention to the important issues of the day.

While chasing another story last night I accidentally ran across an old interview with Roy Reed. It was about the time President Carter called Hogeye, Arkansas looking for Sen. David Pryor. It was 1979 and Carter was wondering why Sen. David Pryor was one of the very few Democrats who hadn't announced his support for Carter's reelection. Mr. Reed speaks then about how conservative was David Pryor....so we may be guilty of instilling great qualities in the father which have come out in the son like shit thru a goose.

No matter, Mark Pryor is wrong for Arkansas, wrong for the Senate and is not only embarrassing, but also dangerous since he refuses to quit backing the side of evil in America. Be he bought off or blackmailed or simply weak.....it is high time he goes away. The truth is, about anyone but a Hutchinson family member is a better pick to represent Arkansas in the Senate than Mark Pryor. Knocking him off in the primary would be the best idea. I don't relish voting for a Republican in Nov. 2008 but on the very untortured lives of my 2 children I promise you my whole family will vote Green or Republican before we vote for anyone named Pryor again.

Hopefully good Arkansans will turn out in droves everywhere Mark Pryor speaks next year in order to punish him and scare him like he scares us. Let's YouTube his ass into a corner and let the voters finish him off. He deserves no less treatment from the people he has misrepresented from the start.

We are the land that gave the world Fulbright, Wal-Mart and Bill Clinton. People like Mark Pryor makes us look like hillbilly freaks too stupid to add 2 + 2. It's time to break the chains and show the rest of the world that we can send a giant to Congress. It's time to retire Senator Betrayus!

I don't believe there are enough bloggers on here to vote Mark out of office.

Max, there are phony soldierS pretending to be soldiers. Rush has talked about this many times over the years and recently. Editing or no, he was not talking about soldiers who disagree with the war. That is never mentioned. He was talking about actual phony soldiers.

As I said, though, y'all are desperate for something to be on the offense about since y'all have been such dismal failures at forcing retreat.

As I was saying...phoney soldiers...

http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=276218567075252

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2007/09/30/abc-reported-phony-heroes-three-days-rush-limbaugh-did

Mr. Pryor, I'd like to take this moment to call out your pathetic senatorial existence: You are a weak-willed, gelatin-spined, opportunist, and nothing but a shadow of your father. You do this for security, for comfort of the known, of the predictable. Living a wishy-washy, non-committal existence is easy. After all, if you don't involve yourself, you don't have to be held accountable. Your choice.

You will be nothing but a footnote in history, when you had the opportunity to be so much more.

Snyder should run against Pryor.

People defending a media whore who has been proven to be a drug addicted liar should kill themselves out of shame.

the man at the front desk of pryors office says that this is not important enough to spend time on to sign a letter on. he must owe lieberman a favor for something.

I love it. No response. Rush, who had recorded a morning update about Jesse MacBeth two days before the "phony soldiers" comment, was reinforced by a Charles Gibson piece that Monday on ABC News. Nobody had anything to say, then. So, they had to make up something that Rush didn't say.

Pitiful.

ARK. BLOG: Sorry, you're wrong. Perhaps unintentionally. Here are the facts. Limbaugh talked about phony soldiers nearly two minutes before mentioning MacBeth. Context is everything. And you'll find he sbusequently, by name, lumped other combat veterans under the "phony soldiers" label. It's pitiful, for sure.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200710020011?f=h_top

Media Matters, who originally flagged the 9/28 exchange for other bloggers to amplify, offers a 'FACT CHECK' on the controversy including:


Misinformation: On September 28, Limbaugh asserted that his "phony soldiers" comment was a reference to Jesse MacBeth, who pleaded guilty to one count of making false statements to the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs for pretending to be an injured Iraq war veteran.


Fact: Limbaugh did not refer to MacBeth during his September 26 broadcast until 1 minute and 50 seconds after making his "phony soldiers" comment. Indeed, at no point during his September 26 radio show did Limbaugh refer to any soldiers he considered to be fake prior to making his "phony soldiers" comment. Moreover, as the blog Crooks and Liars and Media Matters noted, in the September 28 broadcast, Limbaugh expanded the group of "phony soldiers" to include Vietnam veteran Rep. John P. Murtha (D-PA) and Pvt. Scott Thomas Beauchamp, who is currently serving in Iraq.

As I just said. He recorded his Tuesday Morning Update about MacBeth on Monday afternoon, two days before he reused the term on Wednesday. The term was coined by Charles Gibson on ABC News, about MacBeth, that same Monday, also two days before Rush used it on Wednesday. Who cares if he didn't mention Macbeth for a minute and fifty seconds? He was clearly thinking about him and had talked about him, along with ABC News, two days before.

Pathetic.

ARK. BLOG: Thinking about "him?" Why the plural. Pathetic anon. Pathetic. Particularly with the Murtha and other comments and the attack on the guy who made the ad. He got caught showing his rear. Why defend the indefensible? Rush ain't infallible. But it's nice to know you can read his mind from lo these many miles away. I'll stick to the transcript. And his fiddling with the record. And, yes, the squeal of the stuck pig.

Sorry, won't wash.

Limbaugh: " ... they don't understand ... They can't even ... They can't-I don't think they have an answer for that ... not possible, intellectually, to follow these people."
Caller Mike: ""No, it's not, and what's really funny is, they never talk to real soldiers. They like to pull these soldiers that come up out of the blue and talk to the media."
Limbaugh: "The phony soldiers."

Note: All subjects and verbs are in the plural, including the final world "soldiers". Talk about hard to follow intellectually. How could that be anything but a tirade against any and every soldier who talks to the media against the war? Sure, he may have stolen the phrase (he does that, you know) from an earlier discussion about a specific *non-soldier*, but this was clearly spoken about "soldiers"--plural.

Conason is right: "Thanks to all the veterans with the courage to speak out-no matter what their affiliation or opinion-it is no longer so easy for the Limbaugh crowd to claim the military and the flag as their exclusive property.

"That illegitimate seizure of everyone's patriotic heritage is coming to an ignominious end."

It's even worse because of Limbaugh's chickenhawk record, which speaks loudly all by itself about just how deeply his patriotism runs.

This just in from Media Matters round two......

Limbaugh offering inconsistent explanations for "phony soldiers" comment

http://mediamatters.org/items/200710030008

On the October 2 broadcast of his nationally syndicated radio show, responding to criticism of his September 26 comments characterizing service members who advocate U.S. withdrawal from Iraq as "phony soldiers," Rush Limbaugh again asserted that he had been referring to multiple military imposters -- including Jesse MacBeth -- rather than service members or former service members with whom he disagrees. Limbaugh asserted: "The next ruse the left is saying: 'He couldn't have been talking about MacBeth because he used the plural. He said "phony soldiers." He didn't say phony "soldier." ' " Limbaugh continued: "Again, this is a willful and missing of the context of this program. We have discussed many of these phony soldiers over the course of the past few months. We discuss them constantly. MacBeth was just the latest." Earlier in the program, Limbaugh described MacBeth as "the man I was referring to and others like him as 'phony soldiers.' " But immediately after the controversy erupted over his comments, Limbaugh offered a different explanation, inconsistent with his claim to have been referring to MacBeth "and others like him": As Media Matters for America documented, during the September 28 broadcast of his show, Limbaugh twice claimed that rather than speaking generally of soldiers who support withdrawal from Iraq, he was "talking about one soldier with that 'phony soldier' comment, Jesse MacBeth." Indeed, the transcript (subscription required) of the September 28 broadcast that is posted on Limbaugh's site shows Limbaugh asserting: "I was talking about one soldier with that phony soldier comment, Jesse MacBeth. [emphasis in original]"

Further, to support his contention that he had been talking about "one soldier ... Jesse MacBeth," during his September 28 broadcast, Limbaugh purported to air the "entire" segment in question from the September 26 broadcast of his show. In fact, as Media Matters noted, the clip he then aired had been edited. Excised from the clip was a full 1 minute and 35 seconds of the 1 minute and 50 second discussion that occurred between Limbaugh's original "phony soldiers" comment and his reference to MacBeth. Also, the transcript of the first segment of the first hour of his September 28 broadcast posted on Limbaugh's website, which Limbaugh described as being the "anatomy of a smear," does not provide any notation or ellipsis to indicate that there is, in fact, a break in the transcript of the September 26 clip.

Later in the September 28 broadcast, in response to a caller's question, "But you did say 'soldiers' in plural, though, didn't you?" Limbaugh asserted: "Yes, because there have been a number of these people, but they were not active duty -- I was not talking about anti-war, active duty troops. I was talking about people who've been exposed as frauds who never served in Iraq but claimed to have seen all these atrocities, [unintelligible]."

As the blog Crooks and Liars noted, during his September 28 broadcast, Limbaugh also expanded the group of "phony soldiers" to include Vietnam veteran Rep. John P. Murtha (D-PA) and Pvt. Scott Thomas Beauchamp, who is currently serving in Iraq. In asserting that he was originally "talking about a genuine phony soldier," Limbaugh went on to state: "And by the way, Jesse MacBeth's not the only one. How about this guy Scott Thomas who was writing fraudulent, phony things in The New Republic about atrocities he saw that never happened? How about Jack Murtha blanketly accepting the notion that Marines at Haditha engaged in wanton murder of innocent children and civilians?"

From the October 2 edition of Premiere Radio Networks' The Rush Limbaugh Show:

LIMBAUGH: Many of you have said, "You ought to sue." I can't, folks. I'm a public figure. It's part of the process. Can't. It's not doable. There are other ways of dealing with this. I was shocked when I heard Senator [Tom] Harkin [D-IA] say it, and I've thought about what he actually said, and I'm blown away. He attributes to me referencing seven soldiers in a New York Times story that I had never, ever referenced. I never have done so, until this very moment on this program. Now, there are also some people who are talking about this story. CNN did a story yesterday afternoon accepting the Harry Reid-Media Matters -- founded by Hillary Clinton -- premise. There have been others who have done so, and not one of them has gone into detail about Jesse MacBeth, the man I was referring to and others like him as "phony soldiers." So let me again detail for you Jesse MacBeth, because this is the celebrity the anti-war left props up and loves. Army Ranger, he said, a 23-year-old corporal. He said he won a Purple Heart. He said he was afflicted with post-traumatic stress disorder from tours in Afghanistan and Iraq -- and what made Army Ranger Jesse MacBeth a hero to the left wing was his "courage," in their view, off the battlefield. Without regard to consequences, MacBeth told the world -- and his remarks were printed and reprinted in Arabic all over the Middle East and the Internet.

He told the world about abuses he had witnessed in Iraq: American soldiers killing unarmed civilians, hundreds of men, women, and even children, hanging them in mosques. That's one gruesome account translated into Arabic, spread widely across the Internet, MacBeth described the horrors this way: "We would burn the bodies, and we would hang their bodies from the rafters in the mosque." This is who I was discussing, and everybody in the drive-by media reporting on this knows this is who I was discussing. ABC reported on this man two days before I began this very commentary a week ago yesterday, a week ago Monday, ABC World News Tonight did the story. And still the drive-by media who are talking about this do not detail for anybody who Jesse MacBeth is. Well, here's the grand finale: Jesse MacBeth -- a poster boy of the anti-war left, heralded as a hero -- had his day in court. He was sentenced to five months in jail, three years' probation for falsifying a Department of Veterans Affairs claim. His Army's discharge record as well. Yes, MacBeth was in the Army -- for 44 days. He washed out of boot camp. He is not an Army Ranger. He is not a corporal. He never won the Purple Heart. He was never in combat to witness the horrors he claimed to have seen, but don't look for any retractions from the left.

Don't look for any TV ads about this guy from the left, not from the anti-war left, the anti-military drive-by media, or the Arabic websites that spread his lies about the troops, because fiction -- fiction, ladies and gentlemen, fiction is what serves the purpose of the anti-war left, from Tom Harkin to Harry Reid, to these groups that prop up phony soldiers, like Jesse MacBeth, groups like The New Republic, which run phony accounts from soldiers in Iraq lying about what they've seen. These are the heroes to the anti-war left. Fiction is what serves their purpose. The truth is just too inconvenient. The next ruse the left is saying: "He couldn't have been talking about MacBeth because he used the plural. He said 'phony soldiers.' He didn't say 'phony soldier.' " Again, this is a willful and missing of the context of this program. We have discussed many of these phony soldiers over the course of the past few months. We discuss them constantly. MacBeth was just the latest. I have a press release here from the United States attorney's office, the Western District, State of Washington, September 21st of this year. Headline: "Northwest Crackdown on Fake Veterans in Operation Stolen Valor -- Phony vets scam more than 1.4 million and damage image of honorable veterans."

the man at the front desk of pryors office says that this is not important enough to spend time on to sign a letter on. he must owe lieberman a favor for something.

Posted by: zonker
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I am inclined to agree with Pryor on this although it would be nice if he could have elaborated a bit more.

If Pryor is simply stating this position because attacking free speech is not what a Senator should spend time on then I am in his camp...lord help me.

That said, I think Rush is nothing short of a lying fact free propaganda machine and he should be removed from the armed forces radio or at the very least there should be allowances for equal fact filled programming/time in contrast to his show.

As I said, pathetic.

"But it's nice to know you can read his mind from lo these many miles away. I'll stick to the transcript."

I'm not the one who is reading someone's mind. When I heard this, live, I knew what he was talking about because I had been listening, not because mediamatters told me what he meant.

The plural was because he has on many occasions talked about phony soldiers, plural, and he and I knew that there are people who have pretended to be soldiers for one reason or another lately.

eureka he said that this was different than than the media matters example which he signed. that was also free speech. i don't see the difference other than the politics.

If you care to join his website, you can watch the whole episode. During the time, he edited for brevity, you can see him talking to his producer asking for the MacBeth story and see him pick it up off the printer before he starts talking about MacBeth. But I know you're not interested in anything unless it reinforces what you want it to mean.

Limbaugh was speaking of men who claimed to be soldiers, claimed to have taken part in atrocities, and claimed to know the dirty secrets of the evil war machine in Iraq. and who were never soldiers at all. Need names? The US Attorney listed some of them just over a week ago (September 21st 2007), calling them "phony soldiers" and describing what they'd done as "stolen valor." Google Jessie Macbeth, Reggie Buddle, Larry Lewis Porter, Roy J. Scott, Merrick Hershey, Michael Heit, Elvin Swisher, and Carlos Riosvalle for starters. NBC had just done a story on them the Monday before Limbaugh's comments on Wednesday.

Limbaugh was speaking of men who claimed to be soldiers, claimed to have taken part in atrocities, and claimed to know the dirty secrets of the evil war machine in Iraq. and who were never soldiers at all. Need names? The US Attorney listed some of them just over a week ago (September 21st 2007), calling them "phony soldiers" and describing what they'd done as "stolen valor." Google Jessie Macbeth, Reggie Buddle, Larry Lewis Porter, Roy J. Scott, Merrick Hershey, Michael Heit, Elvin Swisher, and Carlos Riosvalle for starters. NBC had just done a story on them the Monday before Limbaugh's comments on Wednesday.

anon i would hate to be within limbaugh's brain as you claim to be. evidently you have powers of a psychic that many people in the country do not want. imagine, being in rush's brain. that would be more scary than being within bushes brain. do you get the advantage of the drug rushes? it would save an enormous amount of money. the powers of being an addict and the fun without the cost.

As Senator Pryor joins his fellow Republicans keep in mind this next time around WE HAVE A CHOICE.

She needs your attention and donations to help end this DINO facades.

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eureka he said that this was different than than the media matters example which he signed. that was also free speech. i don't see the difference other than the politics.

Posted by: zonker

it's all just pathetic, isn't it? *sigh*

What an ignorant bunch of responses. I never claimed to read Rush's mind, unlike y'all, since you somehow know that he was talking about soldiers who disagree with him, even though he said nothing of the sort and clearly said the opposite.

How different our understandings of clarity. Clearly, he was talking about the subject at hand, not any previous or subsequent subject. If he was not, he was changing the subject without saying so. It's called obfuscation, among other things.

He might not get himself into these pickles if he was able to speak a complete sentence. But then, maybe he would.

Nony....tell us again what kind of soldier you and your brother and your cousin plan on being after you get off your lazy chicken ass and sign up for Iraq? How many years are you going to have "other priorities"?

If Arkansas had a real Senator, they'd introduce a bill that says every person still supporting Cheney-Bush and the war for oil in Iraq must sign up for duty in 30 days. You're happy killing the poor kids and minorities, you wave the flag and speak of Jesus....but here you sit as safe as in your mother's arms. Get your butt to Iraq, you can listen to the golden words of wisdom dripping out of Rush's mouth on Armed Forces radio all the way over there. Be a man.....prove yourself....do it for Rush!

All y'all's is just giving that putrescent s*** blaster the publicity he thrives on. He's puffing up like a toad on all the hooraw. The double-standard inherent in the moveon row is being lost in the stupid argument over which way the LimpWad lied. Pryor would be right had he not been wrong on the moveon resolution.

OF COURSE the pathetic radio reprobate is lying about the poison he spewed. He's only following the Bush-Cheney example. Lie in a hateful manner and laugh like a sumbitch while good honest people puke in the stench or sit confusedly wondering why their hero seems so ... wiggly.

Life has never been better for these evil whorebitches. Tush will chuckle all the way to Central America on his next foray among cheap young sex slaves, clutching his off-market Viagra.

Makes this old agnostic wish there really is a hell.


I think nony has been bypassing drinking the kool-aid. That poor fellow(s) is mainlining the stuff.
Maybe joined Rush's Oxy club too.
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penalty "justifiable capital punishment."
20. If you call Clinton's trade relations with China "traitorous," but call
Bush's trade relations with China "a capitalizing international business
venture."

for more...LINK blue bejeeus

dbi, I never said I was a soldier. I said I was going to try to be as soon as I graduate. My brother was turned down because of a injury he suffered 10 years ago. My cousin, however, is serving with the 101st.

In the meantime, you are a grade a moron and jerk. You just make things up to suit yourself, as have the rest of you.

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