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i'm too lazy to look up the transcripts myself, but it may be worth the effort,
for i believe Huckabee said last night, in response to one of the bible questions,
that "much of it is allegorical".

i thought those were/would be, unusual words for Huckabee in 2007

Take the new testament at face value and Jesus was executed unjustly both because he failed to commit a crime and because he wasn't given a fair trial.

Does his failure to protest justify executing the innocent because they raise uncomfortable questions?

thank the gods for google... Rudy Julie-Annie said "much of it is allegorical... here's what Huck said...

Huckabee, the ordained Southern Baptist: "Sure. I believe the Bible is exactly what it is. It's the word of revelation to us from God himself.

"And the fact is that when people ask do we believe all of it, you either believe it or you don't believe it. But in the greater sense, I think what the question tried to make us feel like was that, well, if you believe the part that says "Go and pluck out your eye," well, none of us believe that we ought to go pluck out our eye. That obviously is allegorical.

"But the Bible has some messages that nobody really can confuse and really not left up to interpretation. "Love your neighbor as yourself.

"As the only person here on the stage with a theology degree, there are parts of it I don't fully comprehend and understand, because the Bible is a revelation of an infinite God, and no finite person is ever going to fully understand it. If they do, their god is too small.''

Let there be no misunderstanding, Baptists love killing. They love war, hangings, electrocution, injections, firing squards, dropping megabombs, nuclear tipped bullets, scatter bombs, land mines, and flame-throwers.
I think napalm bombing was one of their favorites cause it resembles their "hell" so closely.

There were near a thousand or Ronnie's Baptist lining the sides of Highway 71B in Fayetteville-Rogers calling for more killing in Iraq. They love it, simply love it.

"love your neighbor as yourself" is one of those biblical injunctions to be taken literally, per MH.

doesn't that conflict with ordering/enabling their execution?

and per the "phone call from God", was it "collect" ?

"love your neighbor as yourself" is one of those biblical injunctions to be taken literally, per MH.

Or, unless your neighbor is one of them there homosexuals.

Huckabee's absolutely right. Just take the quiz and see how you do!

http://www.bettybowers.com/bible.html

hugh.... classic!!! : )

Since Huck believes every word is inerrant,

I wonder if he knows how the koala bears swam from Mt. Ararat, Turkey to Australia?

My theory on that one involves Ham, Sham and Japeth using those flying dinosaurs.

But Jesus, Huckabee implied, didn't quibble. He took his crucifixion like a man, thereby signifying that he personally had no problem at all with the death penalty<<<
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Well and why not! The fix was in. He was to be resurrected and he knew it. It was god's plan. If he wasn't going to be resurrected then our sins could not be forgiven through grace. That's the deal. Jesus
had to die, Huck knows it, chasv knows it, Baptists know it, just as depraved killers and rapists must die, Jesus had to die to wash away their sins. See, if you don't put them to death in a timely way they may never give their lives to jesus. Got it ?

i've read that Huckabee is on Hardball this evening lavishing Hosannas on JOE LIEBERMAN.

whatinthehell is he thinking ?

This all reminds me of Nostradomas. Just use vague similies and mataphors and you can predict anything correctly, but if you are incorrect then jsut claim "that is not what I said". Boy that is a good scam if you can pull it off.

Andrew Sullivan is not a conservative. He spends more time whining about Bush/Cheney than DBI does.

"Let there be no misunderstanding, Baptists love killing. They love war, hangings, electrocution, injections, firing squards, dropping megabombs, nuclear tipped bullets, scatter bombs, land mines, and flame-throwers..."--Lwood

Amen and therein lies my confusion about all this fanatical Bushie God stuff. I'm not a Biblical scholar, though I spent more than my fair share of time in Catechism classes and experienced a wide range of religious beliefs; but I'm fairly sure that love/a pacifist nature/forgiveness and an absence of political ambitions (church or state wise) pretty much defined Biblical Jesus. Yet the biggest glob of warmongering, death-penalty loving Americans tends to be the church gang, especially the current crop of Southern Baptists. I just don't understand it. I keep reminding myself that it's not God, it's his rabid and nutty fan club.

i guess it depends on what he means by "honest" ???

from tonight's Hardball...

MATTHEWS: So when the Constitution says no religious test shall ever be used as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States, that phrase in the Constitution means what to you?

HUCKABEE: It means just what it says, there shouldn't be a religious test. There's no requirement that a person has a religious at all. It may have been on your program, Chris, that a few weeks ago, we talked about Pete Stark, an avowed atheist. My point that day, and I'll say it again, I'd rather have a person serving in Congress who's an avowed atheist who's honest about it than a person who tries to pretend he's a Christian when he doesn't live like it and he's filled with hate and venom and anger toward people.

and more importantly, what he means by "pretend" ?

"I keep reminding myself that it's not God, it's his rabid and nutty fan club."

Me, too, zelda.

Golly! It's hard (well, let's just say it's tumescent) after watching the Republican "debate" on CNN to choose whom to support for President of the United States of America!

A thrice-married adulterous drag queen whose children aren't speaking to him, who attempted to write-off his Hamptons' tryst expenses by funneling them through obscure tax-payer funded accounts until he got caught?

A flip-flopping Morman male model business tycoon who touts his "faith" in the Scientology of the late 1800's, namely the religion constructed by convict Joseph Smith (oh, go on and Google "Kolob") who presided over the only state in the Union to legalize same-sex marriage, except he's now opposed to ANY equal civil rights for same-sexers?

A personable yet ethically-challenged thin-skinned Southern Baptist preacher who doesn't "believe" in mankind's evolution from primates (even though he is one) and thinks Earth is 6000 years old?

These are the Republican front-runners?

Geez. I don't know. I'm praying on it. Right now, I'm leaning toward Anderson Cooper.

On the subject of Jesus and the Death Penalty...Jesus was condemned to die alongside two other criminals also being put to death by Crucifixion. When one of them turns to the other and says,

"We are punished justly, for we are getting what our deeds deserve. But this man has done nothing wrong." Then he said, "Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom."-Luke 23:41

Jesus says in response, "Today you will be with me in paradise". He does not say, "I will, and since I am a God of peace and love (which He is) I think that the death penalty is wrong." No, He forgives the man, and will recieve his spirit into heaven, but he also allows his sentence to be carried out. Why? Wouldn't Jesus, our peace loving, gentle, lowly, humble, meek and mild, "turn the other cheek" Jesus want to simply forgive this man and miraculously take him down from his cross?

No, because God is a God of justice. A concept that is all but lost in an age of moral relativism.

Yes God is a God of Love! That's Why He came to die, because He loves us. But Justice matters! If someone broke into your home, over-powered you, raped and murdered your wife or child right in front of you, or committed some other horrible crime found to be deserving of a penalty of death by the authorities, you would want justice carried out. Yes, you are to forgive that person, but what that person did was wrong, and there needs to be a penalty.

The Bible is very clear, "Whatsoever a man (or woman) sows, thus shall he (or she) reap." -Galatians 6:7

It also designates the government, or ruling authourity and God's instrument to carry out judgement on evil-doers.

"Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities... For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same. 4 For he is God's minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God's minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil." -Romans 13:1-5

Did you catch that? He DOES NOT BEAR THE SWORD in vain. Swords kill people. If you commit a crime you will suffer the consequences. Justice must be done. God is a God of Mercy, but He is also a God of Justice.

I strongly disagree with those who would argue that to be a true follower of Jesus Christ you must be a pacifist. That worldview just does not line up with Scripture.