The blue tide
Kos has a good roundup of Democratic gains just about everywhere nationwide in Tuesday elections. (Yes, I know, a Republican was elected mayor of Indianapolis.) Interestingly, Republican efforts to stir an anti-immigrant furor fell flat. This is not too surprising given a summaryI saw earlier today of national polling. You name the polling outfit -- from Fox to Gallup and every other big name in between -- a solid majority of Americans favor something akin to amnesty -- forgiveness, a path to citizenship, etc. -- for immigrants already in the country leading productive lives and they also realize mass deportation is unrealistic. Here's a polling roundup on these and other immigration questions. (People clearly still need some educating about the wisdom of giving driver's licenses that are not proof of citizenship to immigrants so they can get insurance and also as a means of identifying their presence here.)



Comments
Like many things, the uproar over immigration is due to a small minority of angry white men. They are going to vote Republican regardless, so why worry about them? They wouldn't vote for a Democrat if it were Jesus Christ on the ticket, running against Hitler for the GOP.
Posted by: Roland-in-Waiting
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November 7, 2007 11:53 AM
From the Koz: "Republicans have Louisiana and Indianapolis. We've got the rest of the country."
The Dems have Congress now. How's that working for you? Congress' approval rating are still low (less than 30%). Being in charge and ineffective is not a good combination.
Wait and see what they do with this new found majority before you strike up the band.
Posted by: beefmon
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November 7, 2007 01:34 PM
Dig a little deeper into some polls, beefmon, and you'll find that an overwhelming majority see it for how it is: the Republicans have blocked progress in Congress. Those low Congressional approvals numbers aren't necessarily representative of frustration against Dems, it's frustration that the Dems didn't get the chance to make change. Then you figure in the Rasmussen tracking poll on people's opinions of the 10 key issues, and the Dems have far more favorable margins on ALL 10...including national security and terror. THAT is not a good combination for Republicans going into this election cycle. Face it, your party had everything handed to you, and you systematically screwed up every last bit of it. If the Dems had botched things up that bad, I wouldn't vote for them either. But, there's no reason to worry, right? Those pollsters are all biased anyway, right?
Posted by: devilsadvocate
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November 7, 2007 01:55 PM
The Dem's numbers in both houses are slim and neither can overcome a veto and Bush still has the White House.
My dream would be to get the white house in 08 and get a good majority in the House but lose the Senate.
I do not wish to live through one party control of the both houses of congressand the White House again in my lifetime.
The Repubs are no more corrupt than the Dems generally, they were just in a position to abuse power and became corrupt.
Posted by: Citizen home
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November 7, 2007 02:27 PM
A well-needed change in Louisiana too, let's not forget their R guv. Mainly Ohio is the tell-all shift.
Posted by: Knoc Knock
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November 7, 2007 02:42 PM
Citizen H I appreciate your fair and balanced perspective. However, take a look at how extremist the R majority has become with one, once patriotic woman: (you must copy and paste)
http://www.nwarktimes.com/adg/Editorial/206848/
The last time we experienced that type of totalitarian bullshit was during King Richard's reign
Posted by: Knoc Knock
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November 7, 2007 02:50 PM
devilsadvocate - I agree with you to a point . Congress is a mess. It is not the Dems fault or the Repubs. fault. It is Congress' fault. If folks expect meritocracy from a group or person they will get it every time.
Washington DC needs an enema. Get rid of ALL the career politicians(Repub & Dems) and and the lobbyists and start anew. Get some folks in there that want to be there to make changes not just line their pockets.
Posted by: beefmon
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November 7, 2007 02:51 PM
beefmon, i can't argue with you on any of that. i might be a dem-leaning indie, but i'm primarily a good government advocate. but, public perception is certainly not working for the Repubs right now.
Posted by: devilsadvocate
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November 7, 2007 03:33 PM
Knock,
Thanks for that link. It demonstrates how scaired we have become.
But I am being neither fair or balanced as you claim above. I have been around 48 years and have stopped being surprised at how evil people can be without some oversight or checks and balances.
I am no longer surprised that the Catholic Church which raised and educated me was quietly transferring child molesters from parrish to parrish instead of excommunicating and prosecuting them.
How often do you hear of youth ministers at a church boinking their youth?
How often is the main anti-gay preacher caught frequenting male prostitutes using church money?
I am not surprised when both LR and NLR mayors say nothing when Central AR Water actually pays a developer and lets them rape the steep hillside next to the drinking water intake for their cities.
How often do you hear of a church secretary embezzling mega bucks for Las Vegas trips and jewelry?
Repubs ain't all bad and Dems ain't all good. Hell I suspect anyone that spends millions on a campaign for a job that pays a couple hundred thousand. They are either idiots or up to something.
I saw a Muslim quote which stated, "Trust Allah but tie up your camel."
We have seen what happens when one party (any party, not just repubs) gets control of two of the three branches of gov't then stocks the third.
We need to be smart enough to understand that given a chance, any party will abuse power and the first abuse is to get more power.
Who would have thought that Evangels would be so absolutley opposite of the teachings of the Bible? Repeatedly, repeatedly, repeatedly Jesus taught to feed the poor, clothe the naked, comfort the sick and only twice does the Bible mention for man not to lay with another man. When the religious get in control they worry about gay marriage and to hell with SCHIP for children's health.
My definition of a Kool-Aid drinker is one that thinks his preferred party can do no wrong be it Democratic, Republican or other.
Thomas Jefferson suggested that there be a rebellion to take back the gov't at least once a generation because there is no way to right laws that cannot and will not be abused.
Posted by: Citizen home
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November 7, 2007 04:42 PM
A. Einstein defined insanity as doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.
The Morning News reports (Nov 7) that none other than Dick Cheney will be in Little Rock Nov 16 to help boost the Wingnut party. Last two times he ventured into the safe waters of Ark was to support the R party and Asa! We know how well t hat worked out. Here's hoping the R leadership will remain the same and have old Dick back say Oct 1 08. They never quite get enough Dick.
Posted by: Knoc Knock
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November 8, 2007 01:09 AM
One for Ark. inbRED
Qatar Contract Offers Glimpse Into Giuliani Firm
Dealings Have Potential For Trouble If Ex-Mayor Receives Nomination
By MARY JACOBY November 7, 2007
Rudy Giuliani is one of the few candidates ever to pursue the White House while maintaining a high-ranking role in a private-sector firm.
But since he became a candidate for president, the Republican front-runner has rebuffed all calls to disclose details about the clients and dealings of Giuliani Partners, the consulting firm he founded in 2002.
Posted by: Knoc Knock
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November 8, 2007 01:34 AM
Here's the problem with the ID for illegal immigrants that is an identification card but short of a drivers license: Do you really think that illegals are going to come in and sign up to get this id card so that the government will now know who is in this country illegally? I don't think so. The illegals are going to stay in the shadows until political winds change.
Posted by: HankRearden
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November 8, 2007 11:33 AM