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Huckabee will not be the Republican nominee, I think, because he is neither Southern Baptist enough for the fundamentalists nor unrestrained economic Darwinist enough for the neoconservatives. The one-respectable Republican Party disappeared some time ago, as fake-conservative neocons began using fake-Christian fundamentalists -- and vice-versa.

Oops! that should have been "once-respectable" Republican Party.

"Everybody is for this treaty except the black helicopter crowd." - Max

Okay I'm throwing the B.S flag on this one.

The Heritage Foundation, Ronald Regan, Senator Jim DeMint, Bill Frist, Eagle Forum leader Phyllis Schlafly, Center for Security Policy President Frank Gaffney, Leadership Institute President Morton Blackwell, Free Congress Foundation founder Paul Weyrich, the Wall Street Journal editorial page, the Candaian Free Press, the New York Sun, Rudy Giuliani, Mitt Romney, Fred Thompson, John McCain, Scott Paul from The Washington Note, Citizens for Global Solutions , GOP USA, Red State, Mitch McConnell, Trent Lott, Jon Kyl, Jim DeMint, John Ensign, Jeff Sessions and James Inhofe are all against it.

Is this the balck helicopter only crowd you speak of? Max can we get a claification or a retraction?

The Treaty threatens U.S. sovereignty and gives a U.N.-affiliated organization authority over U.S. interests in international waters moreover international law in this area has proven sufficient. Why in Gods name would we want the U.N. to control anything else, they have proven to be utter failures at almost everything else that body "regulates." It's beyond me why anyone would avocate more power to the U.N.

ARK. BLOG: Like I said ....

Oops I forgot to add, Lawrence Kogan President & CEO of the ITSSD or Institute for Trade Standards and Sustainable Development, John Bolton, the National Review, World Net Daily, Quin Hillyer at the Spectator, Frank Gaffney at the Washington Times and Michelle Malkin to that list.

I would trust my life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness to the United Nations before I would trust them to any of those mentioned by CJ -- and certainly before I would trust a collection of them acting as a government. I'm not sure what Max means by a "black helicopter crowd," but CJ's list would be a crowd who move rapidly, stealthily, and in defiance of the gravity of checks and balances which they think should be applied in a paralyzing extreme to government involving people who are not of like mind.

Snapback - thats a pretty gross generalization don't you think ?

Whatever you think about conservative minded people they are certainly not the "black helicopter crowd" no more than liberals are the communist crowd.

"Whatever you think about conservative minded people...."

I know who most of the people CJ listed are (although not all), and I do not consider them conservatives. I see them as revolutionaries.

For a little context, it appears that the Bush administration, a majority of the United States Senate, and the Pentagon all favor ratification.

Also, countries, besides the U.S., which have signed, but not ratified the treaty are Afghanistan, Bhutan, Burundi, Cambodia, Central African Republic, Chad, Colombia, Republic of the Congo, Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Ethiopia, Iran, North Korea, Liberia, Libya, Liechtenstein, Malawi, Niger, Rwanda, Swaziland, Switzerland, Thailand, and United Arab Emirates.

Just because the Bush Administration likes it doesn't mean that conservatives do, like with the Harriet Miers nomination, Immigration reform etc. etc.

It also doesn't make opponenets of LOST, "the black helicopter crowd."

Huckabee takes a licking a firedoglake this morning and AR Times gets a link.. Any knowledgeable AR lefties might want to chime in.

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- The "I'd Hit You But What You're Made Of Splatters" Award goes to that arch-sack and current godbothering "family values" presidential candidate Mike Fu Huckabee. As Kossack arogue7 notes, Huckabee, aided and abetted by the right-wing noise machine, pretended that Wayne Dumond, a guy who'd violently raped a female relative of Bill Clinton's, was actually a poor widdle innocent victim of The Evil Clinton Conspiracy, and so had Dumond freed; the "innocent" Dumond then went on to savagely attack and murder another woman.

Now, all of this alone would be enough to guarantee Huckabee lifetime Gold Card membership in the Lying Bleepsack Hall of Fame, but now the sick bleep is upping the ante: He's blaming BILL CLINTON for all of this! I swear to God, the bastard knows that the national media - which unquestioningly broadcasted and printed every goddamned bullbleep anti-Kerry "Swift Boat" smear by Jerome Corsi and Company - is going to give him a bleeping free pass on this, and they will ignore the copious reporting that shows just how hard he and his buddies pushed to have Dumond freed, just to shove a stick in Bill Clinton's eye and further hurt an already-traumatized woman. Bleepity bleep bleep bleep. "Family Values" my ass.
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(at my name)

"The Navy wants the treaty. Greenpeace wants the treaty. The oil and gas industry wants the treaty. George W. Bush wants the treaty. (Look at it this way: he's definitely due to be right on something.)
Meanwhile, Mike Huckabee called the treaty 'the dumbest thing we've ever done.'
Pause now to make a list of things we've done that you think might be dumber. "

I think Gail Collins has hit the nail on the head. The US already abides and agreees with most of the LOST (Part XI is the hassle and already disputed terms about it have been ameliorated by events and later rulings). Huckabee has stuck his foot in his mouth, wiggled his toes, and tickled a few feeble brain cells into making another one of his stupid comments. I could say it's the dumbest thing he's ever done, but Collins would admonish me to make a list of things he's done "that you think might be dumber."

If you check your Huckabee scorecard, you will note that the category asinine remarks has surpassed the list of funny quips. It may not catch up to his list of lies but it will come close.

Snapback - "I'm not sure what Max means by a "black helicopter crowd"

Since nobody else will explain, I'll try; but I never really understood it myself (and it was a lot weirder than Kucinich saying he once saw a UFO). Several years ago, the REALLY nutty segment of the right-wingers thought UN forces coming in black helicopters to take over the national parks. Or maybe it was to take over the whole country and they were already in the national parks. As I said, I never really figured it out; but the UN, black helicopters and national parks were all involved some way. The whole thing was absolutely bizarre, and our state representative believed in it (sigh).