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He sent 19 criminals to their death and messed up on the Dummond case. He messed up on this one.

That is 19 wins and 1 loss. Everyone would be applauding if the Hogs had that kind of record.

"oh don't worry, he'll never get elected President"

i've heard this quote many times in many places

in 1974 while in Asheville NC about Georgia's former Governor
in 1979 while in Ft. Smith AR about California's former Governor
in 1992 while in Hope AR about Arkansas' former Governor
in 1999 while in Texarkana AR about Texas' Governor

seems to me, experience tells us to never assume a political "death-blow" has been struck until after the votes are counted. so until then, keep 'em coming.

oops, '92 was AR's sorta/kinda "former" Governor (for all practical purposes :)

please pardon (the pun also :)

Mule,

How about a list of front runners in Iowa who litter the road of political expectations.
The Huckster's record is pouring out and he can't stop the flow.

How many governors have won the nomination after they lose their own state?

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No matter how many games the Hogs win or lose, no women are raped and killed. Multiple people told Gov Huckabee that Dumond was a danger to society and would offend again. For some reason, he chose to ignore this advice and 2 women are dead.

Anyone who worked for or with Huck knows that even a mild suggestion coming from him was tantamount to a threat of dismissal for non-compliance. For Butch to say he could not remember another such request from a Governor makes this a pretty extraordinary request no matter the wording.

All those staffers he dumped on are coming back to haunt him. Paybacks are a ...

I'm pretty sure I've not become so callous that I'd count 19 executions as wins. Exactly who wins when a human is put to death? I've only lately started backing off my lifelong stand for capital punishment, but as I cheered on the execution of John Edward Swindler....I didn't feel like anyone won anything.

Hopefully at some point someone can get Huck to explain WHY he was so kind to Wayne Dumond. That's the big story that has never been explained. Unless it's a retarded kid wrongly accused in an old Jimmy Cagney movie, politicians have little to gain from letting a convict out of prison. There had to be a reason for Huck's compassion for a man who at best was about the creepiest MF to walk Arkansas soil.

Now why would Huck wanna do that? There's the big story, there's the big mystery.....maybe Murray can find out why. Maybe after he's busted and back on Mockingbird Lane in NLR, Jesus will weigh heavy on Huckster and force him to unburden his heart and tell us WHY he helped Dumond out of the pokey, allowing him to go rape and kill again.

indeed, the record is chock-full of Iowa caucus winners and surprise 2nd-placers who failed to win their party's nominations, though i know of no candidate who has ever lost a primary/caucus in their own state and then won nomination.

i would add that "conventional wisdom" for the past year has been that because of the compressed primary schedule and the presumption of the importance of raising scores of millions of dollars, both party's nominees would likely be those who have the most money and are successful in the earliest votes. as it appears now, once again the "cw" could be completely wrong.

all the more reason to hammer and flail at every opportunity.

In my book, beefmon, The Huckster is 0 for 20 in the cases you cite. We should be putting murderers in prison with sentences of life without a possibility of parole rather than executing them, and Dumond should have been required to serve his full sentence.

A 19 and 1 count is beyond the point.
The issue is that Huckabee is lying and in the least not being forthcomming.
I have no doubt he extends this attribute to other issues yet to be uncovered.

We already have a president that was certainly less than forthcomming about going to war in Iraq.

Huck's a bold-faced liar. And it's sleaziness like this that demonstrates that when there's a conflict between his political ambitions and his preacher ethics, ambition wins. How classic, how Faustian...how sad.

I'm all for the death penalty, but I would never trivialize it to a sports analogy. I'm just blown away that anyone could be so flippant about human life. And to think that the one "loss" - with two dead women as a result (after who knows what agony in the process) - could be dismissed the same way as dropping a game to 'Bama... Wow, Beefoon, that really takes it.

This is typical - press builds up a candidate, so that it can later knock him down. It's kind of like a cat playing with a mouse before the kill.

absolutely true sev, yet it is the mice that "escape" that warrant watching the most.

if Huckabee "escapes" the current flogging to win in Iowa (or perhaps a close 2nd... deja vu anyone?) then the cat (media) will have to get serious.

the "cui bono" question applies to campaign media coverage. in this case, the media most definitely has an interest in prolonging a decisive resolution of the nominating process for as long as practicable.

yet still, the deepest pocket candidates will have the advantage and likely prevail. (and of course, afterwards they can proclaim they've been "forged in the fires", as well as dismissing all previous character and policy changes as "old news")

Max is sitting at 14:59.

Wonder what will happen when it finally hits 15?

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Theodosius said - "Anyone who worked for or with Huck knows that even a mild suggestion coming from him was tantamount to a threat of dismissal for non-compliance."

I am sure Hillary is just dreamy to have as an employer.

Deathbyinches said "I'm pretty sure I've not become so callous that I'd count 19 executions as wins. Exactly who wins when a human is put to death?"

WE ALL DO. Those people are not allowed to be a cancer on society anymore. My only problem is that we take to long to kill them. Once appeals are over, take them outside and shoot them in the head. Cheaper, quicker and one helluva PPV.

How about we drop all of the death row folks off at your house and you can comfort them and try to find out what went wrong in their lives?

Pavel said "In my book, beefmon, The Huckster is 0 for 20 in the cases you cite. We should be putting murderers in prison with sentences of life without a possibility of parole rather than executing them, and Dumond should have been required to serve his full sentence."

How much money are we wasting on people that are on death row? They were sentenced to death. How about we take them outside, put a bullet in their head and use all that money we are spending on keeping them in prisons to use for education, health care or somehting that actually adds value to our society. Keep in mind I am ONLY talking about death row inmates here. We spend more on death row inmates per year than most middle class people make in a year.

The out of state press needs to be warned of the following.

1. Janet is handy with a bazooka.

2. David is packing.

3. Don't get between John Mark and Taco Bell.

4. Keep your hubby away from Sarah.

And yes you can find references to all of the above in the Arkansas Journal blog and comments.

The whole bunch is a mess and it's finally catching up. Maybe you shouldn't have dumped on so many former friends and supporters. All that fertilizer you dumped is sprouting.

indeed, there is a wealth of fodder br,

the next few weeks will put to the test the modern axiom

"all publicity is good publicity" also known as

"there's no such thing as bad publicity"

I've listened to and read many bellicose rants justifying capital punishment based on economic considerations. Most of them were better than yours, beefmon, and all of them are total horseshit. The list of names of men convicted and condemned to death that have later been exonerated and released from prison continues to grow. I regret that my government kills any person in my name. I am appalled that my government has killed innocent men in my name. We are diminished as a people every time we perform an execution.

What ever happened to admitting a decision turned out bad instead of denying it?

Remember the 70's? The breakin was a petty crime, the coverup brought down a president.

As my old daddy always said when you get caught in a lie on something small you can't fault people not believing you when something big comes up later.

Pavel - as I have said before "How about we drop all of the death row folks off at your house and you can comfort them and try to find out what went wrong in their lives?"

Reading for comprehension must not be your long suit, beefmon. I advocate a sentence of life in prison without the possibility of parole for all convicted murderers. If you think that life in prison is coddling, your grasp of the situation is truly flawed.

Studies of the death penalty have concluded that there is no compelling evidence that the death penalty rationally serves a legitimate penological intent and that the alternative of life imprisonment in a maximum security institution without the possibility of parole would sufficiently ensure public safety and address other legitimate social and penological interests, including the interests of the families of murder victims.

And even more important, the penological interest in executing a small number of persons guilty of murder is not sufficiently compelling to justify the risk of making an irreversible mistake. It's that "irreversible mistake" possibility that should give us all pause. Of the 38 death-penalty states, 37 have life without parole as a possible punishment for murder. Arkansas is one of those states.

Beefmonkey's response has no logic. We could just as easily reply to him that we ought to bury all those executed in his backyard. It's a stupid comment and has nothing whatsoever to do with the issue. It's basically peurile polemic pontification.

The issue remains Huckabee's lies, defense of those lies, and compounding the situation with further lies. He's gonna be nailed in future debates on this issue and we might just see him lose his self-righteous cool on national TV and before the American public. As I said elsewhere, the man is toast and the longer he continues lying, the blacker and more burnt he'll become.

It is so easy to blame and point fingers. It is much more difficult to have integrity and take responsibility for your actions. Huckabee has chosen the easy way and has proven that he lacks the character and moral fiber to be the leader of this country. Expect the humor programs to target his conduct and accusations. He will be wounded badly and will be limping for a few brief more weeks before other primaries puts him out of his misery.

You're right, JdaS. Let's get back to nailing The Huckster's coffin lid on even tighter. This is from Kevin Drum's Political Animal blog regarding The Huckster's pitiful response to the NIE story:

"Here's Huckabee feebly lying about the whole thing on today's Morning Joe: 'Well, I don't blame my staff. It is a situation where a report was released at 10:00 in the morning, the president hadn't seen it in four years and I'm supposed to see it four hours later.'

"No. The NIE was released Monday morning. He was asked about it Tuesday evening. That's two days. Two days in which the NIE was on the front page of every newspaper; it was blanketing cable TV, talk radio, and the blogosphere; and the president of the United States addressed its conclusions in a press conference. It was blockbuster news on one of the most important foreign policy issues of the campaign and Huckabee didn't even know about it.

"If this were just an attempt to play gotcha with Huckabee, that would be one thing. But it wasn't. It was an ordinary question from a reporter who assumed - rightfully - that any serious candidate for president of the United States would keep up with news like this and have something to say about it. Huckabee didn't."

"Here's Huckabee feebly lying about the whole thing on today's Morning Joe: 'Well, I don't blame my staff. It is a situation where a report was released at 10:00 in the morning, the president hadn't seen it in four years and I'm supposed to see it four hours later.'--Pavel

He's hit bottom if he's offering up the 'Dubya didn't either' whine.

There was absolutely NO reason for him not to scan the headlines and keep himself minimally informed. My gosh, I imagine being President is as busy as running for President...so what the hell is going to change if he should win? Unless, of course, he's going to follow the Monkeyboy model...Lord help us. Besides, he had time to meet 'covertly' with a gang of Iowan preachers Monday night...which is just a tad less important than being MINIMALLY aware of what's going on in the country he wants to lead. He is the model for exactly what this country doesn't need...AGAIN!

Two small, but telling mistakes in the Huckabee release. Wayne Dumond, was Wayne Dumond until he changed the spelling of his name to DuMond while he was in prison. Huckabee was careful to respectfully use the newly preferred spelling. While Ashley Stevens has been Ashley Stevens (not Stephens) all of her life. When Governor he met with her; and ignored her. He met with her father, Stevie Stevens (not Stephens); and ignored him. Did he pay that little attention? Or, are his media people just that careless?

Rape is 'ok' with Huckabee.