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Race war?

Is it?

Hillary tries to put the fire out. Her statement:

“Over this past week, there has been a lot of discussion and back and forth - much of which I know does not reflect what is in our hearts.

 “And at this moment, I believe we must seek common ground.    

“Our party and our nation is bigger than this.   Our party has been on the front line of every civil rights movement, women's rights movement, workers' rights movement, and other movements for justice in America .

 “We differ on a lot of things.   And it is critical to have the right kind of discussion on where we stand.   But when it comes to civil rights and our commitment to diversity, when it comes to our heroes - President John F. Kennedy and Dr. King – Senator Obama and I are on the same side.  

 “And in that spirit, let's come together, because I want more than anything else to ensure that our family stays together on the front lines of the struggle to expand rights for all Americans.”

Meanwhile, a pro-Obama flier urges Republicans in Nevada to cross over to vote against Hillary.

 

Comments

If that is the case, then she shouldn't be saying things (or her surrogates, for that matter) which requires constant clarification as to the intent of her words.

I'm sure Mrs. Rodham Clinton and Sen. Obama are on the same side, just as long as the former is more on the same side than the latter.

Tis the Clinton camp tossing around the C-word and that just plain turns me off.
I don't care what anyone did when they were 18, 20, 25, heck, I was pretty racy at 40, 50,
can still be bitchy if pushed too far.
Just tell me how you are going to be un-bush.

"Our party has been on the front line of every civil rights movement"

madame must've missed the high school class on the civil war ... or it sure is nice to hear an american politician finally admit that it was about economics and centralized, crony-subsidizing government.

So far if you discount the many death threats Obama's received since he first announced we've only seen the polite racists and the milder woman haters, but you know they're out there and they'll bubble to the top of the septic tank soon.

Oh, America's past that. Yeah....sure we are. And every woman whose beat or raped or has her dismembered remains found in her boyfriend's BBQ pit will disagree. Every black man whose drug behind a pickup in Texas until his head falls off would disagree too. While we're at it, we might as well ask Matthew Shepard how the gay thing worked out for him in reformed America.

I've said before that Hillary got all the trashing before New Hampshire because the mostly male MSN know better than to trash a black guy......but don't worry....they figure out a way. We're racing towards November 4th so fast we've forgotten that there are some really horrible Americans hiding in the nooks and crannies of our nation. They are not a bit happy that a bitchy woman or an uppity Negro dare think they're going to put their hineys in the big chair in the Oval Office.

All you have to do is Google up 1968 and see what danger is lurking in 2008. If we're lucky, and lately, when have we been lucky.........if we're lucky, no one will get shot in the head this time around. But you can bet the hate groups will do all they can to keep the 2 front running Democrats out of the White House.

Keep in mind, America is the only nation that had to fight a bloody war to solve its slavery problem. Also New Zealand gave women the right to vote in 1893. So while we like to think the best about ourselves....so often the facts don't back it up.

After 8 years of twin devils...I spit I spit I spit on them......where was I....OK...after 8 years of Cheney-Bush anyone else looks like heaven. This is the time for a woman in the White House. This is the time for a black person in the White House. America is broken.......we should be willing to try anything no matter how untraditional or far fetched. Clinton/Obama '08!

This whole race thing is a media driven crock of crap. Hillary's comment about LBJ's role in the civil rights fight was true. Granted that MLK had paved the way it still took a President to get final passage of the Civil Rights Act. In no way was she marginalizing King's role. She was pointing out, correctly, that if Goldwater had been president that the act wouldn't have become law.

This whole race thing is a media driven crock of crap. Hillary's comment about LBJ's role in the civil rights fight was true. Granted that MLK had paved the way it still took a President to get final passage of the Civil Rights Act. In no way was she marginalizing King's role. She was pointing out, correctly, that if Goldwater had been president that the act wouldn't have become law.

This whole race thing is a media driven crock of crap. Hillary's comment about LBJ's role in the civil rights fight was true. Granted that MLK had paved the way it still took a President to get final passage of the Civil Rights Act. In no way was she marginalizing King's role. She was pointing out, correctly, that if Goldwater had been president that the act wouldn't have become law.

"[A]nd other movements for justice in America ."

What other movements, I wonder?

So easy to speak in generalities like this.

We have a long, long way to go in achieving parity -- or justice, a better word: thanks to HRC for using it -- for women and African Americans.

And yet, federal laws at least prohibit outright discrimination in housing, employment, and all kinds of other respects for women and African Americans.

The do NOT prohibit such discrimination in the case of GLBT Americans.

It has proven well-nigh impossible even to pass a hate-crimes law to protect GLBT Americans, who continue to be susceptible to horrendous levels of violence up to the present day in this "Christian" nation.

That "other movements for justice" contains a lot that needs to be said outright by any leader truly concerned about justice in the U.S. Compared with every other developed nation in the world, the record of the U.S. re: human rights for GLBT Americans is deplorable.

Surely HRC knows this. Why not speak out, then? Don't the Social Principles of her church require her to do so?

LAJ -

Funny how you claim that Goldwater would not have signed it, considering there were more Republicans (186) than Democrats (153) who voted on the conference report of the '64 Act.

Also funny is how Mrs. Rodham Clinton, and most Democrats, overlook that little nugget.

Just in time, The Surrogate Scandal.

Red, If you had listened to the LBJ tapes and heard him talk southern Democrat's into going along with the bill you'd understand the point. I'll grant you that if Goldwater had been president he might have signed the bill however it would never have reached his desk because he wouldn't have been behind it.

Please don't confuse the old Goldwater with the young Goldwater. The young Goldwater worked hard to keep the black folks down in and around Phoenix. That plus his father's name and department store money made him a force in Arizona. Sometimes I wonder if the 60s Republicans didn't vote FOR Civil Rights knowing how it was going to destroy the Democratic Party for many years to come.

Either way, the Civil Rights Act wouldn't have happened without both MLK and LBJ. I saw nothing racist in Hillary's comments. The Clinton camp has called for a truce tonight with the Obama people on matters connected with race and gender. It's a damn good idea. The Sins of Bush should be the only thing those 2 are talking about. In the end the best thing that could happen to America is a Clinton/Obama ticket.

The Sins of Bush should be the only thing those 2 are talking about. In the end the best thing that could happen to America is a Clinton/Obama ticket.<<

If justice is the goal then I think we need to go back to the 90s when NAFTA and the Telecommunications Act was passed. Restore workers rights to organize, eliminate off-shore tax haven protections and other major travesties found in our tax laws. I suppose that is why I will vote John Edwards.

Investigating the voting irregularities in Ohio-2004 would have been a place to start. Too many were turned away, intimidated, stood in long, time consuming lines before they were told they couldn't vote, then the voting machine manipulations. Get to the bottom of it, make someone pay. It's never too late for justice.

Restore law and order within our contractors' ranks. Make them liable for shooting up foreigners.

Restore the cuts to the Soc. security Adm which SHit-for-Brains instituted so that sick, disabled people need not wait 573 for a hearing. That is a travesty.

dbi i have been saying that for 4 years. did anybody listen to goldwater in his last years? he was positively liberal. he sounded more like johnson and bumpers. i heard him on a pbs show and was shocked with his opinions there are no republican statesmen like that anymore. you can now see why nixon resigned. if someone like that was in the senate today bush might be a different president. all they want to do upon retirement is become lobbysts and maker money.
there has to be peace in the democratic party or they are going to blow it this year. i hope they are not that stupid to argue just for the arguements sake. i really don't think the clinton camp is. they know wnen to stop. they will get caught up in the heat of the moment but when they cool off they will say oh crap what are we doing, lets talk to those people and straighten this out. lets see what happens after super tuesday and if hillary wins more of the bigger states, as she should, it should be time to make a deal. lets stop the squabbling and calm down. edwards should realize that he is not a factor and the party needs to start to unite. this squabling does no good


573 days..

The Sins of Bush should be the only thing those 2 are talking about

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Talk with specificity would be nice but action as sitting Senators would have been much better. Where's the simulated artificial beef flavoring?

In spite of it all, I am looking forward to tomorrows debate.

Hillary does not have a racist bone in her body and anyone who knows her knows that.
LBJ knew he was going to turn the white South into a Republican white South when he signed into law the Civil Rights Bill.
He did it anyway, and it was the right thing to do.

"573 days.."

What's the significance of that, eLwood?

"Restore the cuts to the Soc. security Adm which SHit-for-Brains instituted so that sick, disabled people need not wait 573 for a hearing. That is a travesty."

This will also cut the number of nervous breakdowns, early retirements and other "stuff" raining down on the folks who still work there!! SSA is "down" only about 20,000+ employees, as the baby boom retirement tsunami begins...pegged precisely by eL.
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573 days is the current "backlog" of disability hearings at SSA, as told on CBS News tonight, in a 2-month investigative report. Part 1 tomorrow night...

OOPS - Part 2...

"73 days is the current "backlog" of disability hearings at SSA, as told on CBS News tonight, in a 2-month investigative report. Part 1 tomorrow night..."--Larry

My sister-in-law worked for several lawyers in Mississippi; and the SSA stories she told kept all of us pissed off. (All were workplace injuries.) When our illustrious SSA thugs said no to disability for a guy who was paralyzed from the neck down, you know the 'situation' is deliberate. That kind of ignorant callousness is beyond incompetence...it's part of a fiscal/theological policy. And now our wounded soldiers are coming home to a Bush government that doesn't give a damn about used-up Americans. What disgusting treatment for a country's ill/wounded. It would be so nice to have a group of concerned Americans who cared so passionately about the sanctity of life...about the diseased/wounded that they organized and took to the streets, halls of Washington to demand better treatment for all life.

If the worst racists we face are the Clinton or Obama folks, it's a glorious new world. The sad truth is that I know more than one religious Republican who so hates Monkeyboy/this War that they'd hold their noses and vote for Hillary...something they would NEVER have done prior to the last seven years. They, for a variety of reasons, will never vote for Obama. I can't decide if there's ANY progress to be gleaned from people whose hatred of Hillary/women leaders is only overcome by their prejudices and disgust with their Republican brethren. Glad Hillary/Obama decided to publicly move on.

The Republicans offer more of Monkeyboy's endless War and the same health-care 'solutions' that have left almost 50 million Americans without...and the rest of us non-millionaires barely hanging on. What good are tax cuts, dividend breaks, flag-waving, blah blah when the sanctity of American life is such an empty slogan? Other than Kucinich, I have little love for any of the Dems...especially the 'Senators.' But choosing between more of Bush's War and uncared-for soldiers/disabled and those who are AT LEAST offering hope is easy.

Sorry...573 days.

zelda i have only 2 things to say. as i understand they are told to reject all cases once no matter how severe hoping that a certain percentage will not reapply out of frustration. that is a good source of income for a group of lawyers who fill out forms who get the money automatically the second time. the second thing is monkey boy, what happened to shit for brains? i love that one so much i credit you every time i use it. i just want you to know there is a shit for brains fan out here that miss es it when it is not used. thanks.

"Our party has been on the front line of every civil rights movement"
Civil Rights Act 1964
The original House version:

* Democratic Party: 164-96 (64%-39%)
* Republican Party: 138-34 (80%-20%)

The Senate version:

* Democratic Party: 46-22 (68%-32%)
* Republican Party: 27-6 (82%-18%)

The Senate version, voted on by the House:

* Democratic Party: 153-91 (63%-37%)
* Republican Party: 186-35 (80%-20%)

An average of 64% democrats to republican's 80% on the CRA of 64

Republican President Abraham Lincoln and Republicans along with Democrats who sided with Republicans lead in the anti-slavery movement....
so which party is she speaking of?

MAK, If the republicans were such champions of civil rights why wasn't meaningful legislation passed during Ike's administration? After all during those years republicans controlled congress part of the time. Also, surly you're not trying to make the point that today's republicans are just like those in the 50s and 60s. You might consider taking some remedial history courses. Lincoln did not lead the anti-slavery movement he in fact advocated sending the slaves back to Africa.

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