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Just curious - taking this to an extreme racist example - what are the chances that a Caucasian fast-food business owner, employing a hundred lily-white workers, is hiring a horde of Caucasian-white unauthorized immigrants from . . . Canada?

What are the chances that a Latino fast-food business owner, employing a hundred Latino workers, is hiring unauthorized immigrants from a Latin American country (where we have known illegal immigration issues actually promoted and supported by the LA country)?

Duh.

First example is unlikely as an immigration issue - Second is highly likely to be a jackpot!

Is this racial profiling or is it common sense? How sad that all the indicators of a crime can be there, but if race is an issue, you have to ignore it.

In this we agree, Donk: Racial-profiling hysteria needs to be tempered with 'common sense.' Sure cops abuse racial profiling...but 'they' abuse everyone/everything if left unmonitored. According to the failed war on drugs, ANYONE with lots of cash has to doing something illegal...so an unchecked wrong will flow upwards. (ONE reason I hate that 'If you're not doing anything wrong' garbage.) But those of us who would like to stop cops from assuming certain people are criminals, aren't helped when 'liberals' refuse to apply common sense to situations.

Illegal aliens come to America and expect us to turn our country - its laws, its culture, its system of citizen benefits - on its ear to benefit them. Then they accuse us of being racist, bigoted, and hateful xenophobes for requiring them to follow the law that countless LEGAL immigrants took the time to follow. They refuse to acknowledge how their actions can rightfully be interpreted as insulting. They're essentially saying, "We don't give a damn about you, your laws, your country or your culture.gimme, gimme, gimme."
I'm quite sure that anyone who opposes illegal immigration would have no problem with immigrants of any stripe coming here legally, according to our laws, to make a better life for themselves. But by countless millions invading our country and overwhelming our schools and social systems, criminal justice system, hospitals, degrading our economy, taxing our already fragile infrastructure, crowding our cities and elbowing their way into jobs that are required by law to be given to citizens and legal workers; its just a bit of a problem to those of us who demand that our immigration laws be followed. It's not racist or bigoted to demand that anyone who wants citizenship show their dedication to their new country by following its laws pertaining to immigration. Breaking those laws as your first action in your "new country" does not sit well with the vast majority of American citizens nor will they ever accept it

I understand and sympathize with someone coming here illegally for work and food they probably cannot get at home or they wouldn't leave home to begin with..far more than I sympathize with wealthy American Corporate citizens pushing aside their own fellow legal countrymen for the ability to short change labor rates.. If the wealthy employers in America were held to strict accountability for breaking laws.. we wouldn't have a rush of illegal immigration... in fact many would leave if the jobs dried up.. Arrest the fat cats and the problem will be solved... all else is just allowing oneself being played like a two dollar made in China fiddle.

I think you all have missed one of the really big points here: The ability of the Feds to seize property on the basis it was ill gotten gains. The feds have filed papers to seize property in the millions of dollars from these folks. This is being money driven.
But let me try and help put some light on the subject as to why these illegals are coming here. I get appointed to represent them, and have visited with a few that could speak English. One client had a college degree from Mexico, and I inquired why he was here. He could not get a decent paying job back home, and was tired of seeing his family hungry. A measly $100.00 US a week will allow many families to live like a king, buying a house and putting food on the table, back in South America and Mexico. I have been told this fact a 100 times. When working at the jobs available in most of Mexico only pays enough in a day's wages to buy 1 pound of steak and nothing else to go with it, you can expect them to leave for the USA. So until the economic changes take place, you can expect that illegals will come here. I recently had a client who was a US Citizen, a white man, who had fled South of the Border to aviod jail, going all the way to Brazil, and he came back to go to jail, because he could not earn enough to buy food while down there!

When you think chicken, thank an illegal alien as you fill your mouth. zeezil is imagining all kinds of things the average illegal worker never thinks of. He or she are thinking survival, not just for themselves, but for their family still trapped back in Mexico. I am surrounded by Mexicans. I have idea who is legal or not and I don't give a damn. They work hard, they do a loaves and fishes thing with every meager paycheck. They love and take good care of their family. They go to church. They gather their friends and BBQ nearly every weekend. I've watched their kids play with sticks and rocks and then get those first magical Wal-Mart toys. Amazingly they're every bit as human as you or I.

This side of murder, I would do anything to feed my starving family. If I had been born in Mexico, you can bet your sweet ass I would have jumped the fence years ago. It is a farce that of all places where illegals are hired, the Feds bust the Mexican establishment. And you can bet confiscating assets was a big part of the decision. What we're seeing in Rogers echoes what went on in Mississippi in the mid-60s during the battles of the Civil Rights era. It makes empty the words of our national anthem. Maybe we're doing it all wrong? Perhaps a mass exodus of illegal Americans into Mexico is the right idea. After all, our best jobs are going there, the Mexican government isn't waging war or torturing. Perhaps our best future is a New America south of the border?

I happened to have been recruited Friday to pickup our grandchildren from school, a task my better half is usually called upon to do. Sitting in line, I noticed at least half the folks picking up kids were "Hispanic" looking.

Now if the big bad USA in the Western District wants to round up them there illegals...how about sitting at the schools and I'D.ing the parents that don't look like the rest of us? Walk up to them and ask for I'D's and run em, I assure you that 1000's of parents would be trotted off leaving kids standing stranded in schools...instead, they go after the big bad employer, not as Max pointed out, the "big boys", just the Hispanic owned company.

You see, it's all about the image...ICE doing it's job, the USA doing his job going after illegals, when you can find them at schools, grocery stores...the area, especially NWA and Hot Springs is just crawling with "them", but the headlines would be brutal, even though the schools would be much easier picking's - it's easier and more politically palatable to go after the employer - rather than actually implementing an immigration policy that works...doing the hard work and making the right decision's for our county and forcing Mexico to fix its house.

Then of course there are the schools. If Rogers or Springdale or even Bentonville lost 50% of its Hispanic students because ICE and the USA were "really" doing their jobs, who'd pay for those brand new pretty schools, what teacher's would lose their jobs, what neighborhood schools would be closed, how long would your kid have to ride a bus to get to a different school. You see, every single one of us have been played like $2.00 whores with the beating mantra of the big bad employer - by your government and ICE, go after an employer here and there, make them the big bad boogie man, make some good headlines, when in fact, if the government wanted to do a real crack down with much easier pickings, they could...but they won't, the economic consequences would be devastating. So, they throw us a little red meat once in awhile to make us feel good, that they are doing something, a classic bait and switch.

what are the chances that a Caucasian fast-food business owner, employing a hundred lily-white workers, is hiring a horde of Caucasian-white unauthorized immigrants from . . . Canada?"
Donkey

Very unlikely because why would anyone leave Canada (national healthcare, higher std of living) to come to U.S. to work for sub-human low wages? I think a majority of ICE police realize that.

The messicuns workers who Tyson promotes (and others too) in and around Chickenopolis are promoted on their ability to bring in new workers and of course, be bi-lingual. Yes, the new workers have "papers." I don't believe for one minute that a line supervisor at Tysons doesn't know about the paper mills in Tulsa. Without immigrant labor Tyson's would never have been able to bust that union in a Nebraska processing plant they acquired.

Judging from these posts, the US will never have rational immigration policy.

All immigrants are darked skinned with accents and instantly recognizable. Certainly the US has no light skinned English speaking Illegals, so as an employeer I should only ask the dark skinned ones for papers?

Posters agree that they themselves would come to the US to feed their families, which implies the people who hire them are doing a great human service to fee the starving , unless they take high paying jobs from someone else. If they take a lower wage then they are worker for a scum bag. Should the guy making enough to live on and send back enough money to support 12 folks feel lucky as heck or should he feel out a secret complaint about be paid sub-minimum wage.

Heck, why should a college grad from Mexico go to the Embassy and fill out immigration papers when he can just slip on over. The immigration service might be doing a good job by sending people back, but some people seem to feel that depends on whether they find them in a minority owned plant, or a large corporation.

Geez folks. Let's just get a decent policy. Don't care whether it involves a fence with machine guns and dogs, or whether we put a free ferry on the Rio Grande and hand out "Welcome to the US" kits with vouchers and maps and free bus fare to the city of their choice. Triple or quadrupal the immigration quotas or not. Give every US citizen an ID card an make them show it to get any job. I don't care.

Let's just get a policy and then ENFORCE it.

Mud,

Some good stuff - but wherever there is a 42 foot fence, there's an enterprising Mexican on the other side with a road side stand - 43 foot ladders for sale - $19.99 - we can't secure the borders - the China and Berlin Walls should be an historical lesson to just that.

Here's a suggestion...the Hispanic community sends 100's of millions of dollars every week to Mexico from folks who are trying keep their families down there from starving. Western Union and millions of "small payday lenders" - are making millions a day and so is the government of Mexico. It is Mexico's number one import...American dollars. Restrict those dollars, cut em off, make it damn near impossible to send money over to Mexico (don't shoot me - RealID) and you'll bring the Mexican government to its knees in a matter of weeks.

Bring them to the table, force them to stop giving Corporate America a free ride as they move our blue collar jobs to Mexico...make them set a minimum wage for any "new business'... force them to get their fiscal house in order - Force them...nothing will ever change unless the Mexican people are not forced to leave their country because they simply cannot survive...and the economic policies of Mexico (that's a joke) simpy forces the mass exit of their countryman - yet the Mexician goverment is happy watching those American dollars flowing back in everyday of the week!

When Whirlpool laid off a bunch of high paying jobs a couple of years ago...18-20 bucks an hour (24-28 dollars with bennies), it devastated Fort Smith. Those jobs went to Mexico - the same job - $15.00 a day no bennies - that means Whirlpool cut its largest budget line item (payroll) by 99.78% - did anybody see the cost of Whirlpool Fridges drop in price? Didn't think so...this explains some of the many reasons why we don't have reform...it always has and always will be about the money - the money for the few -Corporate America and the well connected R's and those who contribute to the R machine. Yet we sheeple continue to feed into the illegal immigrants mantra and the smoke and mirror of "our war against them."

The Whirlpool example is a good one. Over here on the left side of the state we're feeling the pinch of Whirlpool saying hasta la vista to America, but the worst is yet to come. And Rheem announced a couple of months ago that they've bought a big parcel of land in Mexico....wonder why? I figure in the near future other than making lots of chicken shit, Fort Baptist will be totally out of the manufacturing business.

We may have to go back to providing whiskey and whores to the Army...oh wait....Fort Chaffee closed too. You know the next war we throw, when we have to convert our factories to making bullets and bombs....uh...where will those factories be to convert? Can ya make a stealth bomber out of chicken shit?

And who benefits from NAFTA? BlueTicker points out we ain't getting no discount on a new side by side even though 5 dollar a day brown hands are making them now? The workers lost, Fort Baptist lost, Arkansas lost, America lost....but the owners of Whirlpool whoever they are have won big.....real big. And when America slides into the shitter, they can load up on their private jets and wave the American flag from their chalet in Switzerland. We'll be left here amid piles of chicken shit.

Now don't it just make sense to spend every moment of every day railing against the Mexicans in our midst. Damn them.....they're ruining America working for peanuts doing all the shit jobs no one wants. It was them damn illegal Mexicans that invented Sub-Prime lending. Those damn Mexicans forced Bush to lie about WMD and start a war with an innocent country. Man....it was that damn Mexican Albert Gonzales who turned our Justice system into pure crap....at least that one sticks. And what about those 2 elections those clever Mexicans stole back in 2000 and 2004.

I think maybe America has become too stupid to live. Maybe we do need 4 more years of Cheney-Bush to put us out of our misery. We just happily sit on our asses while it all goes away.

You are absolutely right, DBI and others. The problem is NOT with the working Mexicans. As usual, it is the tick-like parasitic wealthy that make money pushing numbers around while never actually working at anything.

There are wealthy that are decent people, but the ones that are selling all the working people down the river for a buck are greedy, selfish people that are truly parasites on all of us.