Arkansas Blog

"Combing," right?

ARK. BLOG: Right.

Or "Coming to a blogosphere near you, the Clinton Archives"

Since she probably already knew her politician husband was an alleycat, destroying the credibility of a child rape victim was probably just practice for when she would have to do the same on his older victims.

"probably just practice"

Not enough to stop John McCain, John Ashcrost, Rick Santorum, Strom Thurmond, and Tim Hutchinson from voting guilty on both counts presented by House Manager Asa. McCain is the only one standing, but that's about to change.

Speaking of combing through the records. Apparently her uncrowned highness is stooping to circulating a picture of Sen. Obama dressed in a turban.

Keep it classy, Hill.

Blue name.

Jeez...talk about diggin' deep...

It still amazes me (although with each silly dig my amazement gets watered down a little) the depths folks will go to find a little "dirt"...especially on anyone Clinton...

Nevermind that Hillary was doing her job in representing the client to the best of her ability...shoot, I have many criminal lawyer friends that have defended the bottom of the pond...

I'm sure Hannity, Rush and Co. will be all over it...

Unfortunately, our legal system requires attorneys like Hillary to do whats best for their clients - even if it means roughing up a victim. If Hillary did not grill the 12 year old, she would not be doing her job. Even a scum bag is entitled to his/her day in court.

Hillary's needs to quit pandering to every special interest if she wants the nomination. People who made bad decisions to buy $500,000 loans for houses they can only afford at the teaser rate don't need to be bailed out. Why should poor Arkansans have to subsidize loans for the irresponsible.

Given the current budget and huge deficits and huge national debt with IOU's to social security, less spending coupled with some revenue enhancement (i.e. taxes) is going to be needed to balance the budget. No candidate has the guts to talk about the need for fiscal restraint. The Europeans were smart enough to protect their currency by requiring each member country to balance their budgets. We need to do the same.

The timing could not be more perfect. Hillary takes the hit on the same day she issues the Obama picture. Just one more indication that this is not her year. A friend of mine says that timing is everything. Hers is horrible.

Give it up.

Its the Manchurian Candidate against the Muslim. What a year!

My guess is 98% of Americans have no real inkling what attorneys do aside from wills and deeds and such. Every defendant is entitled to a defense, the best his or her attorney can come up with. Not every defendant is a Perry Mason client who is clearly exonerated in the end. My guess is that only a minute portion would fit that description. Nevertheless all are entitled to the best defense possible.
Unless I misread part of the article, Hillary Clinton never questioned the victim. The case was plea bargained because the prosecutor's case was weak.
What strikes me is that the defendant apparently never came under the hard gaze of the law again. What also strikes me (at the risk of "blaming the victim" to a certain extent) is that adults in the house where the child -- she was a child in this sense too, people -- was spending the night with a friend allowed her out. Tell me you wouldn't get up and see who drove up at midnight and came into your house. Tell me you wouldn't say, "No way are you going to take a 12 year old girl for a midnight drive." Tell me you wouldn't promise them a load of buckshot if they showed up again.

It still amazes me . . . he depths folks will go to find a little "dirt"...especially on anyone Clinton... Posted by: rosso
Its the Manchurian Candidate . . . - Posted by: Fletch
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Digging in the dirt? Hmmmm.

Folks will keep digging because they keep finding these little diamonds . . . So, instead of tagging her the "Manchurian Candidate", lets keep to her claimed "Arkansas Roots" - we could call her the "Murfreesboroian Candidate".

Arkansas Red, if you think the turbaned photo of Obama is something, you're going to go ballistic when Karl Rove and his boys get through with Obama.

I can just see it now...photos of his mother and father together sent to every redneck in the Southern USA, more links to his Chicago church website, etc., etc., etc.

Yep, the R's are going to rip his tonsils out and pull them through his ears.

He might as well get ready. What you are seeing now about him is just the tip of a very large iceberg.

Sev, you are absolutely right. All defendants have a presumption of innocence and the right to a vigorous defense. As an atty, even a court-appointed one, Hillary's job was to mount an effective defense, no matter what she thought of the client, his actions or being sympathetic to the victim of a crime.

And, yes, financially, the US is going to have to pay the bills one of these days. One of the things that heartened me about Bill as Prez is that he was accustomed to preparing a balanced budget. I am SOOO glad that Arkansas requires it. Unfortunately, most morgage bailout plans are less concerned with people who bought too much house than protecting the banks and other financial institutions who were all too willing to lend them the money. Wall St took risks, didn't have good practices in place to deal with those risks and now, they'll get bailed out (with our tax dollars) . Not the right course of action.

Manchurian Candidate is McCain.

Oh.

Never mind.

Back when I was young and had potential, I had an idiot juvenile court client who was accused of raping a 7 year old girl. This was long before the advent of DNA evidence to prove these charges. Anyway, when I found out that the prosecutor was not going to have the girl testify I advised my idiot client, who was pretty much guilty, to take the 5th which was apparently the first time anyone had ever done that in that county. The prosecutor was outraged.

"Do you mean to tell me that you are going to make me put the victim on the stand?"he asked.

" You do whatever you need to do," I said. "My guy isn't testifying."

He got a recess and conferred with the girl's family. After awhile he came back and announced that the State was dropping the charges against my idiot client.

"How will you be able to sleep tonight?" the prosecutor asked me afterwards.

"Fine." I said. "I'm not the one that fucked this case up."

Now, my female friends back in LR where horrified that I had walked somebody who was clearly guilty of a most heinous crime. But as I said back then, "What was I supposed to do? It's not my job to prosecute my client. It's my job to defend him to the best of my ability."

Did I like it? No. Did I feel justice was done? To the limited extent that I believe that people should be set free when the prosecution fails to sustain its burden of proof, yes.

And so I say the same about young Hillary's defense of her client: "What was she supposed to do?"

I think the issue is how outraged would the NOW-gang be if the defense attorney running for President had been a man who went after a 12-year-old girl on the stand.

I'm pretty sure I know how those talking points/heads would have turned out.

Personally, I liked the old days when defense attorney's were just supposed to negotiate a plea for the guilty. If there is reasonable doubt, fine. If not, attacking the victim or the system is just a cheap trick to release the guilty to strike again.

I think the more important point for those who believe in social, political, and economic equality for women is the fact that Sen. Clinton, as a woman, was even able to argue a case in court at that time.

"[Judge] Cummings asked Rodham to leave the room while sexually explicit details of the case were discussed with the girl. "I can't talk about any of these things in front of a lady," he told her, according to the senator's autobiography.

She refused and Cummings interviewed the girl in court."

"I liked the old days when defense attorneys were supposed to negotiate a plea for their guilty clients."

And just when the hell was that?

Thank you for asking the question, Bopbamboom. Last time I checked, everyone was presumed innocent UNTIL proven guilty...not just assumed innocent and their attorney work out the best sentence they can.

Geez, no wonder we have GWB as president with mistaken ideas like that.

Recalling the Juanita Broaddrick scandal, it's apparent that Hillary has a pattern of insensitivity to rape victims.

I don't remember Hillary drop kicking Juanita Broaddrick in the crotch or flipping her on the nipple way back then. I don't remember and can't find anything that says Hillary has ever met Ms Broaddrick. Aren't you mixing your cows and chickens there, blogger?

Adults understand what lawyers, especially young court appointed lawyers have to do from time to time. The dregs of humanity deserve the best representation a court appointed attorney can give them. Or at least that's the way the law worked before Cheney-Bush. No one wants to defend a person accused of raping a kid, but they have to do.

I also remember the mood of the nation back in the days of the McMartin Pre-School witch hunt. The new fad of seeing a sexual predator behind every bush got way out of hand before Pet Rocks came along and diverted our attention. I remember several guys going thru a divorce who suddenly found themselves accused of molesting their own children by a soon to be ex-wife who didn't think she was getting enough revenge. Of course most women didn't do such things, but for a while too many men were dropped on their heads 6 or 7 times on their way to the squad car to answer to charges that turned out to be totally made up later. The only thing worse than being accused of being a child molester, is actually being a child molester.

I don't believe that Barack Obama is a Muslim. I think this is Karl Rove hard at work. On the other hand, having been raised a Baptist and knowing them well, I'd happily welcome a Muslim to the Oval Office. Remember.....the dirty tricks start NOW. One thing not in Obama's favor is being a much bigger fresher target for evil Roveian dirty tricks than Hillary Clinton. She and Bill survived a 70 million dollar attack thrown at them. Senator Obama is fresh meat and the Republican sharks are circling him. I hope he makes shark soup of them.

DBI -

Please see -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KZ8ICvutc0

A very young Hillary Clinton defends her client to the utmost of her ability?!!
Horrors! Bitch! Hates kids!
And Obama in a turban on the very same day?
Horrors! Muslim! Terrorist!

Yeah, right.

I am SOOOOOOOOO tired of it all. FOCUS on the big picture, people. Bush/Cheney deserve the death penalty for killing innocent people in an innocent country. Congress needs to grow some and stop funding the invasion of Iraq.

Let's get our country back. Let's stop fighting among ourselves.

Our mission is to defeat the criminals who occupy the White House and get the USA back on track, and gain the respect of the world again.

She did her job. I most sincerely doubt that it was to her liking, but she did it. Like it or not, it was her job and her duty. The law states "innocent until proven guilty." It was her duty as an officer of the court to give the accused the best defense possible. She did so. She upheld the law and did what was expected of her as a court-appointed attorney of a man accused of a heinous crime. To do otherwise would not have been ethical.

Do we want a President who upholds the laws of this nation whether or not she or he 'likes' those laws? Or do we want a President who only upholds the laws that they find to their liking and would write 'signing statements' to those laws that they do not like? Think about it! Take a good look at the last eight years in this country's history and what has come of those 'signing statements.'

Personally, I want a President who fervently works to uphold the laws of the land, defends the Constitution of the USA and feverishly works to do what is right .. whether or not it is to his or her 'liking.'

BTW, This was 33 years ago, folks! Is this the best you can dig up?!

First problem here blogger....the name Hannity....secondly you got an old gal mean enough to run a rest home all her life talking about nearly fainting cause Hillary shook her hand. And I know every time I rape a woman my wife makes sure to hold the woman's hand and tell her to shut her yap or get creamed.

None of this is in the least believable. Fox News, Hannity, one person's word with no witnesses, sentences one must read between the lines to find anything remotely threatening, if Juanita is even telling the truth. This isn't even a good try. Go back to the well.

DBI - Juanita Broaddrick's accusation is highly credible, especially compared to the credibility of a Clinton denial. The only major inconsistency in her story is her original affidavit in the Paula Jones lawsuit where she denied receiving sexual advances from Bill Clinton. When questioned about it later by the FBI, she stated that the affidavit was false. Since then, many parts of her story that can be checked out have been confirmed. She was a campaign worker for Bill Clinton. They were acquainted, and a photograph of them together exists. There was a nursing convention at the hotel which she attended.

After that, it's her word versus his. Clinton refuses to release his calendar for that day, and he hasn't provided an alibi, just the usual worthless "non-denial denial" from his attorney. Based on what we know so far, it's plausible that Bill Clinton could have been convicted of rape by an Arkansas jury if she had filed a complaint immediately, and the world would be a better place today.