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" . . . they had sex three times."

Ah to be 18 again.

I'm pretty sure I didn't have sex 3 times in my whole 18th year, but I know what you mean.

Where were these teachers when I was school? I would have enjoyed high school a lot more if I had teachers like this. Guess I was born about 18 yrs too early.

They were only doing what they were told to do, according to......click on cato

My kid had similar experience.

He was in the 8th grade at the time. He comes home after school one day. His mother notices that he's got a big smile on his face. She asks, "Did anything special happen at school today?"

"Yes, Mom. I had sex with my English teacher!"
My wife was stunned. "You're going to talk about this with your father when he gets home."
Well, when I got home and heard the news I can't say it bothered me that much. Sure 8th grade is a little young maybe but. So, making sure his mom wasn't around, who I was sure didn't see it quite the same way "Son, I hear you had sex with your English teacher."
"That's right, Dad."
"Well, you became a man today - this is cause for celebration. Let's head out for a great meal, and then I'll buy that new Cannondale bike you've been asking for."

"That sounds great, Dad, but I can I have a new football instead? My ass is killing me."

Whenever I hear these hot teacher stories I grumble under my breath, "lucky little so and so." But this one made me scratch my head and ask, "why is this 18 year old a minor?" Oh well. Benton County. They still haven't gone along with calling off alcohol prohibition.

I guess this is where the sexism shows up.

I don't remember any teachers looking like some of the ones that are getting busted for this.

But even with homely teachers I never figured I had a chance anyway.

I DID have a teacher like this when I was 16 or so. Or at least she was a teacher who supposedly had gone out on a "date," however innocuous, with another HS kid, and she invited me to her house to "listen to records" or something. Unfortunately, at 16 and her being about 30, I was too scared s#%@less to take her up on it and see what might transpire beyond listening to Led Zep or maybe even some of that dangerous, subversive jazz by Miles Davis she no doubt favored.
Oh, to be 16 again.

Beer, sex three times, and he got to stay for breakfast. College is going to be a let down. If I was this kid I might see about getting left back.

This guy OWNS his high school now.

I'm thinking maybe even a small parade in his honor is in order.

I also appreciate that no one is on here rambling on about ethics i.e. living life in a book instead of what's actually going on.

Yeah, I can get a chuckle out of this on one level, but this is a huge no-no and the teacher's career (as a teacher) is toast, and rightly so. Since the kid was 18 I don't know why this is a legal matter. (Hey lawyers- Do you know?) She still crossed a huge ethical and professional boundary.

Consider the "campground rule" for older people with young (legal) partners- there's an ethical responsibility to leave the youngster in better shape than before. Being all over the news and all, I don't think Ms. Monroe's behavior passes that test, either. In fact, she flunked spectacularly.

"Eventually, he came over and they had sex three times."

Damn...

It's been said already, but to be 18 again...

I'm pretty blow away by the comments on this one. Although in jest, most of them, I'm sure. They still illustrate that double standard. If this were a male teacher and a female (or male) student, he would be a pedophile and the student a helpless victim. It's great how we judge these things based on the gender of the people involved.

As to why this 18 year old is a minor: In Arkansas, and most other states, anyone in a position of authority is not allowed to do anything with someone under their supervision, 18 or not. This includes most everyone employed at a school, from the principal to the person serving the lunch trays.

Danged! What's the matter with that dude? When I was 18 I would have had sex at least 3 times before we even got the sheets turned down.

3 times in one day! If I count back 3 times, I think Terri Schiavo was still alive! If more stories like this come out Melissa Monroe won't go to jail, she'll be on Dancing With the Stars.

Life is so unfair! A hot teacher in my day was a poor woman going thru menopause. Hot and hot flashes are 2 entirely different things. In school hot gets ya laid, hot flashes gets ya extra swats. Or at least that's the way it worked back when dinosaurs roamed the earth.

I think of the damage that has been done by a news story like this, not to the lucky student, but to us older guys. Boys, if our wives read this stuff about 3 times in one night, imagine what she's going to be thinking about the next time you slick your comb-over down, use the same old tired line you've used since Disco was king and start your totally predictable 2 full minutes of "I do this to you, cha cha, you do this to me, cha cha."

Oh yeah, older men.....mmmm mmmm. You can bet it was 3 times a night circus sex that caused a then 32 year old blonde lobbyist to crawl in the sack with a 63 year old Senator from Arizona 8 years ago. Nothing makes sex hotter than 35 year old POW injuries. It was just accidental that the old Senator went to bat over and over for the companies the little blonde represented. It makes perfect sense to me.

My 2nd cup of coffee finished and with a little reflection, I believe what we should do is let the sexy teacher go free and put the old buzzard that was screwing our political system in jail. YAY Melissa Monroe! BOO John McCain!

Then Clinton should go to jail for granting clemency to the Puerto rican separatist murderers. Fair is fair.

>>>>They still illustrate that double standard. If this were a male teacher and a female (or male) student, he would be a pedophile and the student a helpless victim. It's great how we judge these things based on the gender of the people involved.<<<<<

You are right of course.
And normally when I read these stories I try to put myself in the place of the child's parents (though at 18 they are no longer kids) but this time I don't even think I would get upset if it was my son and he was 18.
It is just sex, I would be more upset about a teacher getting my child involved in drinking/drugs, maybe talking him into joining the Army and going off to fight in Iran or getting him to hang out at the local fascist evangelical church.

Here's a lesson, junior: No doesn't always mean no. Sometimes it means yes, yes, yes.

I'd be terribly upset if this was my 18-year-old son or daughter either one. My double standard is that if it were my daughter I'd want to beat the cr@p out of the teacher and if it were my son I'd want to beat the cr@p out of him. If it were my 16-year-old daughter I'd think the guy should spend the next ten years trying to keep his back to a wall in the prison general population. But at 18 this should not be a felony and 5-20. The teacher admitted he did not force himself on her, but it also appears that he drove himself to a situation he certainly wasn't trapped in.

And it's been noted in some places, but deserves reinforcement - this is a grown woman who made her own bed (so to speak) but her life will never be the same after those few hours of "fun". Her career is ruined. Marriage? Hard to tell how good it was but life with those two littel boys will probably be tougher. And thanks to the Internet, cached pages, and Google, when those boys are in 5th, 6th, 7th grade they'll get taunted with e-mailed pictures of mom's mug shot. The ugly will last long after the funny is gone...

So, let me get this straight:

In Benton County, you can now marry if you're under 18 and if you're 18, you can't throw some dirty leg with the local math teacher?

I'm confused...

Don't blame Benton county - they're both state laws.

I knew the level of discourse would go down after the posting numbers went up.

After a cancelled business trip due to weather in Saint Louis I am sort of getting a snowday to play.

There is a difference between boys and girls, that is why I put up with the nutty thinking of my wife and her friends. The down side of her nutty logic is far outweighed by the upside of her feminine wiles. Even "Secret Deodorant" claims males and females are a different ph (ph balanced for a waman). We must be different species.

A sex act occurs. The male is a king. The woman is a slut.

I am not stating oppinion, I am stating reality.

Quite honestly I am at a loss why this is progresing to a criminal matter. I was 17 when I started college and this guy is 18, where is the harm? At 18 you can sign up, as Mohammad Ali said, so the white man can send the black man to kill the yellow man (now the brown man).

So how, as a country or a society, can we claim that a woman that persuades an 18 year old guy that sex is ok be worse than a government that persuades that same fellow that attacking or occupying a country with no weapons of mass destructions or the means to deliver them is a good thing?

It is a sad situation. Wish she had a do over. Here is her myspace page.
Perhaps you will see her in a better light.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=221261031

The Morning News will sell many more papers on this one but I doubt anyone will want a new subscription.
It's a very boring paper, very not-important paper so when a sensation like this comes along it really leads. Save for Doug Thompson's column and the occasional LTE's from outside godcountry it's a boring rag.

But, anyways, going to my teachers house wasn't ever so much fun.

But how times have changed, a full listing at my name...

look, I hate to be the one to break it to you guys, but Im 49 and 3 times is still just getting started if you only get to see your sweetie once a month or so. he's six months older. You dont have to be 18 to have sex more than 3 times a night (modesty keeps me from providing more details, but lets just say there have been nights with no sleep), you just have to be incredibly deprived and sexually compatible, and we evidently meet both criteria there. always have, in the last five years.

Thats the only advantage to long-distance romance that I can think of offhand, you don't get tired of each other. Not at all.

Don't these teachers ever learn that having sex with their students is a bad idea? It's not a secret, it's even on those nice educational Lifetime movies!

not to brag, just scientific facts provided, but there are never any chemical enhancements involved. Mike Ditka never stops by, thank God, in other words. ;)

Pssstttt...tina....call me....

Why couldn't Ms. Monroe have been MY teacher????

I always missed out on the fun stuff in high school. Some guys get all the luck.