4,000
DBI mentioned it in a comment, but it's a milestone that deserves its own post: The Associated Press is reporting that the U.S. death toll in Iraq is now over 4,000. You can read the story on the NYT web site.

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Go to www.bodyofwar.com
It'll make you cry.
Posted by: BlueRidge
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March 23, 2008 10:24 PM
War Criminal.
Posted by: JD
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March 23, 2008 10:30 PM
4,000 good American girls and boys gone forever. What a massive screw up we are in. Thanks a lot Bushies and those that voted for this SNAFU.
Hillary should have known better.............and I am pretty sure she did.
Posted by: BlueRidge
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March 23, 2008 10:35 PM
Christina Siun posts on Iraq most every Sunday evening @ firedoglake.. Check out three must see youtubes and a quote by Robert Fisk at the end of her post. (at my name)
Anytime you see or hear someone in person or on television say we have to fix what we messed up or we have to finish the job.. ask how can we do that while we are still bombing and partitioning the entire country.. Iraq, the new Palestine.
Troops home now and war crimes for Bushco!
Posted by: Eureka Springs, AR
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March 23, 2008 10:38 PM
I wish the folks that voted Bush had to walk by the hundreds of thousands dead Iraqi civilians this idiot is responsible for.
Much in the way the German civilians were forced to view the concentration camps of WW II.
Posted by: Rev. Mojo Ryson
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March 23, 2008 10:43 PM
Fayetteville, AR makes the front page of NYT. Again, it's "bullying", a good example of Trickle Down mentality via macho Neo Cons.
"March 24, 2008
This Land
A Boy the Bullies Love to Beat Up, Repeatedly
By DAN BARRY
FAYETTEVILLE, Ark.
All lank and bone, the boy stands at the corner with his younger sister, waiting for the yellow bus that takes them to their respective schools. He is Billy Wolfe, high school sophomore, struggling.
Moments earlier he left the sanctuary that is his home, passing those framed photographs of himself as a carefree child, back when he was 5. And now he is at the bus stop, wearing a baseball cap, vulnerable at 15.
A car the color of a school bus pulls up with a boy who tells his brother beside him that he's going to beat up Billy Wolfe. While one records the assault with a cellphone camera, the other walks up to the oblivious Billy and punches him hard enough to leave a fist-size welt on his forehead.
The video shows Billy staggering, then dropping his book bag to fight back, lanky arms flailing. But the screams of his sister stop things cold.
The aggressor heads to school, to show friends the video of his Billy moment, while Billy heads home, again. It's not yet 8 in the morning.
Bullying is everywhere, including here in Fayetteville, a city of 60,000 with one of the country's better school systems. "
click on blue....
Posted by: eLwood
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March 23, 2008 10:51 PM
Shamefully, the Washington Post has put its death-toll-hits-4000 article on page A-9.
Posted by: Eureka Springs, AR
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March 23, 2008 11:44 PM
49,186,643 abortions in the United States since 1973.
Posted by: Arkansas Red
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March 23, 2008 11:50 PM
At my name Eureka Springs Mayor...
Mayor calls upon Okla. State Rep. Sally Kern to apologize at council meeting:
EUREKA SPRINGS -- The use of Eureka Springs as an example of a town "taken over by the militant homosexual agenda" brought a sharp rebuke from Mayor Dani Joy.
On Monday night, Joy focussed her mayor's comments at the end of the Eureka Springs City Council meeting's on Oklahoma State Representative Sally Kern (R), whose comments, made to a private meeting of Republican supporters, secretly recorded, then released on YouTube March 7, have elicited national attention.
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Posted by: Eureka Springs, AR
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March 24, 2008 01:04 AM
Blue Ridge and others:
You should be ashamed of trying
to use the deaths of soldiers to
score political points. You don't
give a damn about those 4,0000.
They are just numbers for you to
use.
Disgusting...
3 times more than that die every
year from a lack of health care
in this country. What has Obama
ever tried to do about that?
Nothing.
Posted by: The Bold and The Blue
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March 24, 2008 01:13 AM
How many of those 49 million abortions were Republican babies? Goddamn America, huh, Red?
Posted by: Deathbyinches
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March 24, 2008 01:27 AM
The Bold and The Blue......are you high? I find your comment more offensive than I dare to say.
Posted by: Deathbyinches
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March 24, 2008 01:34 AM
FAYETTEVILLE -- Longtime Berryville mayor Timothy McKinney was arrested early Sunday on charges of speeding, driving while intoxicated and possession of a controlled substance, according to a police report.
Posted by: eLwood
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March 24, 2008 01:57 AM
The Bold and The Blue.. has lost all ability to reason these days.. I suspect one to many prescriptions may be involved.. B and TB call your doctor or at least admit it.. you are Red.
Posted by: Eureka Springs, AR
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March 24, 2008 02:36 AM
49,186,643 abortions in the United States since 1973.<<
I'm not sure I get the reason for your post Red.
Are you indicating that since we've had 49 mill + abortions that
4,000 soldiers killed is justified? Is there an esoteric ratio in
there that I fail to see?
Did a president give an order for those embryos to be eliminated?
Posted by: eLwood
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March 24, 2008 03:10 AM
There's nothing wrong with
pointing out the loss of
human life. Just don't use
those deaths in an attempt
to make cheap political
shots.
Bush is responsible for
the Iraq war and all the
deaths on BOTH sides.
Posted by: The Bold and The Blue
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March 24, 2008 03:56 AM
And Blue Ridge and others are
going to be saying hello to
President John McCain if they
continue with the Clinton hate.
It's enough to make some vote
for McCain over Obama if he's
the nominee.
Posted by: The Bold and The Blue
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March 24, 2008 04:01 AM
How cold must Bush be, knowing he lied and 4,000 of America's finest died because of it, to sleep in America's house and count sheep.
How ironic America is becoming one b--- J--! and the gop thinks President Clinton is unworthy.
We have lost our way somehow! First lady Bush laying down beside someone that lied and sent 4,000 to their deaths the media treats her saintly but Hiliary lays/sticks with her man and the media treats her unholy.
Click wot see what a dangerous animal one becomes sleeping with a lier.
Posted by: BWC
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March 24, 2008 06:15 AM
Some of you may find this site useful.
Posted by: BWC
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March 24, 2008 06:35 AM
Colbert Reminds Us of McCain's Embrace of Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell [VIDEO]
Stephen covers the double standard which the media has given a black pastor, by ironically labeling him as an anti-American racist, while giving hateful bigots like Robertson and Falwell a free pass to say much worse. After 9/11, Reverend Wright correctly recognized that we were experiencing blowback from the terrorism our government had previously committed in the Middle East. Robertson and Falwell however, placed the blame on American citizens (specifically Feminists, Pagans, the ACLU, and anyone who's ever watched Will & Grace).
Where is the media outrage regarding McCain's embrace of these "agents of intolerance"? With such an apparent racial double standard and his good name tarnished for speaking the truth, I wonder if Geraldine Ferraro also thinks Reverend Wright is as lucky to be black as Barack Obama.
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/election08/80456/
Posted by: BWC
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March 24, 2008 06:50 AM
Pardon the hell out of me, Bold and Blue, but I am a Hillary supporter. If you read this blog and pay attention, you'd know that. However, I have pointed out before that in my opinion, Hillary, of all people, having just vacated the White House a little more than a year before, should have had better information than any other Senator. Nonetheless, I voted for Hillary because I think she would be a great President.
I find your comments to be insulting and demeaning. I care deeply about those 4,000 soldiers and for you to say otherwise makes me sick.
Have a good day and get the blinders off. I'm voting for the Democratic nominee, no matter who it happens to be.
Posted by: BlueRidge
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March 24, 2008 07:18 AM
And furthermore, the Bold and the Blue, STFU when you don't know what you're talking about.
Posted by: BlueRidge
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March 24, 2008 08:59 AM
Anger about the 4,000 dead soldiers, yeah and anger about the over 50,000 who died in Vietnam...anger at the police state we have become, anger at the gulag archipelago created to imprison more than a million people but not a dime to rehabilitate those worth saving, anger at the injustice of the money driven justice system, anger at the plight of the poor and elderly, anger about an inadequate health care, anger at a broken education system that slowly devolves into those who can pay and those who cannot, anger that we are so divided on issues we should be able to discuss and resolve and most of all anger that as a nation we have lost what we once had a modicum of, "tolerance", now totally lost it seems...we have been divided by competing ideas and infuences. The religious folks say it is because of a lack of faith & belief in a higher power, not one higher power but "my" special power, unique to my group. The politicians say it is economics, lack of political involvement, blah, blah, blah, or the media. The media simply stand on the sidelines and cheer on the gladiator. The more blood the better, the thrill of the kill. We the people either stand and cheer or buy into all the bullshit spewing from the media, the political left, right, or religious nuts; or stand silently by and watch the facade of the american dream crumble into dust.
Yeah I am angry, angry at so many things gone wrong and angry about those 4000 young men & women gone for nothing!
Posted by: ArkansawTravler
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March 24, 2008 09:27 AM
BlueRidge - are you so politically one-sided that you won't even listen to the other party? Most people who post on the blog are.
People like you are the reason we can't get anything accomplished with our current government. All you want to do is scream democrat, democrat, democrat that if a democratic leader told you to jump off a cliff you'd do it even if a republican built a bridge across the canyon right next to you.
Committed republicans do the same thing.
I understand picking one over the other on different issues, but to say that you're going to vote democrat regardless of who the nominee is...that's a little fanatical if you ask me.
Posted by: James
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March 24, 2008 10:04 AM
Just pointing out a tragic statistic.
Posted by: Arkansas Red
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March 24, 2008 11:21 AM
as if it truly mattered to many americans, 4000 is also the number of Iraqis killed/wounded in sectarian conflict SO FAR THIS CALENDAR YEAR as the US Govt, with altogether too much complicity from Democrats, is spending over 4000 DOLLARS EVERY SECOND on the Iraq "War" (and that is before calculating the "Vig" to the FED/CHINA/UAE, etc.)
meanwhile the headlines/shout shows/blogs are filled with debate over who is having the most "patriotic senior moments" in front of a microphone?
the old vet/pow who is repeatedly confused over who the Iranians are training, the old ex-president who yearns for a november contest between two candidates who "love their country", the old "experienced" lady who reminisces about being shot at, and the not-so-old black guy who said something "typical" about a white person.
is it any wonder why so many people around the globe simultaneously laugh at and fear the U.S. ?
Posted by: muleboy303
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March 24, 2008 11:29 AM
And yet, Arkansas Red, you don't give a damn about the living.
What about the 655,000 dead Iraqis + 4000 dead Americans?
If you can in any way equate a 1st trimester clump of cells to a living being, your brain is shortcircuiting.
Posted by: JD
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March 24, 2008 11:33 AM
James, the Democratic nominee is going to be Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama. I can happily cast a vote for either of them. Nothing fanatical about that. I HAVE "listened to the other side." I just don't like what they say, and 70% of the American people agree with me.
Posted by: BlueRidge
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March 24, 2008 12:06 PM
Bold and the Blue seems to think the trillion dollar a year MIC and intentional needless killing spree we are on in Iraq and Afghanistan is not connected to many healthy ideas.. like health care for all Americans..
We have to stop MIC (or reduce it 90 percent and it would still be far larger than any other country in the world) and we have to stop killing and robbing innocent countries before we can begin to take care of each other, much less claim to have a shred of decency.
Two of the three remaining candidates have proven through their experience that they are failures at grasping such basic human decency.. they are nowhere near worthy of leading us in a manner of integrity or reason. They may have the best of intentions, just like the Mark Pryors of the world.. but it's not enough, not nearly enough.
Even conservative newspapers are admitting their errors these days. A CT paper wrote an apology op ed yesterday for endorsing Joe Lieberman in summer '06.. It's time a lot of Arkansans wake up and small the Lieber-shills in our home state.. like Clinron, Ross, and Pryor.
If we are at needless war, everything has failed.
Posted by: Eureka Springs, AR
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March 24, 2008 12:06 PM
"Racism and Religious Fundamentalism are the oxygen and petroleum, without which the fires of ethic-less crony capitalism, militarism, and imperialism could not continue to burn"
Posted by: muleboy303
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March 24, 2008 12:18 PM
It don't matter who you are on here all that matters is what is being said on here. Some of it is down to earth and some of it is just personal BS.
I think it is true bush is not doing what he campained on to be president... He and cheney are going about their own personal agenda. That alone should be a crime. I think bush has the mind of an 9 year old that thinks he can lie and do anything he wants to because he thinks people will believe him no matter what he says.
And, another thing it is wrong asking the soldiers in Iraq and Afganistan what they think of the war. They do NOT SEE the dead soldiers like we do and hear in the news about. They have been brain washed to think it's ok to die for their commander in chief. That is crazy.
How about asking a football player about his buddy that broke a leg are broke his neck or an arm, etc.. he doesn't have that much concern about that, all he wants to do is play and win. Same thing with the soldiers.
I hate to say it but America has been taken over by selfserving politicians. The war is in the wrong place.
Posted by: chasv
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March 24, 2008 01:43 PM
4000 .....just 1000 more killed in 5 years as innocent civilians were killed in one day. I will pray tonight and thank GOD that not all Americans are like chasv. The fact that brave men and women are fighting for our freedom means nothing to so many of you. What would you like to have seen happen? I guess we should have all sang kumbayah while the Sears Tower, LAX, Dallas Cowboy stadium, etc. were blown to bits!
There may be some soldiers that have "been brain washed", but damn-it there are people fighting because they believe in America. I wish every last one of you that hated America so much-chasv would just move. You clearly hate everything America stands for and was built on. Move to France or Cuba or even England. Get your socialized health care and denounce America as exactly what you are an Un-American.
And don't worry Red, since Planned Parenthood markets to low income kids who don't know any better (while they are protecting molestors, rapists, etc) it is not republicans (since by the definition of republican given on this blog is a fat, old, rich, racist, white person-which as Rev Write as shown, you are only racist if you are white and if you are white you are probably racist) getting chopped up to bits by a vacuum with razors.
Posted by: MAK
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March 24, 2008 04:33 PM
MAK, I do not hate America!
BUT, Listen, there is not one thing over there that has to do with our FREEDOM!
There's a right way to fight a war and, of course, a wrong way.
The only thing from that war that has affected you and me is HIGH OIL AND GASOLINE PRICES! Abortions have killed too many of our babies, and it is a sin what women are doing.
Can we police the whole world, NO. Is the USA bankrupt, Yes.
The working man is being robbed by the very people they elected to run this country.
Posted by: chasv
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March 24, 2008 04:51 PM