Should she stay or go?
Hmmm. It would appear that the Obamaists are not in the majority -- nearly -- on whether Hillary Clinton should drop out of the race forthwith if she doesn't win both Texas and Ohio.
Here, a pro-Obama blog has begun a tally of those who think reporting has been harder on Clinton. The majority says it has.
Go nuts Orval Eugene.
ELECTION DAY GRIST: The blog of Texas Monthly's Paul Burka has some good stuff on Texas, including data on the huge turnout, the huge Democratic advantage over Republicans in early voting and greater Democratic votes in Harris County (Houston). A poll of Houston voters showed a greater percentage self-identified as Democratic. There's hope yet for the US of A.




Comments
Send that carpet-bagger back to New York City!
Posted by: ses
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March 4, 2008 12:54 PM
MAGIC 8-BALL says:
"ask again tomorrow"
Posted by: muleboy303
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March 4, 2008 01:05 PM
Don't forget JD. He'll be stalking you when his classes are over.
Posted by: docholliday
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March 4, 2008 01:28 PM
Just so they won't have to work hard here's today's Hillary bash already. Click on the handle.
Posted by: docholliday
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March 4, 2008 01:32 PM
One only needs to read accounts of Obama's look of shock and awe yesterday at being faced (at last) with tough questions from the traveling press to understand how Obama has been treated thus far with awestruck deference by the media. Perhaps now that Obama has been at last downgraded from rockstar deity to mere mortal, he'll get some long overdue scrutiny.
It boggles the mind what a free ride Obama has gotten until now...and the problems this seriously unvetted candidate could present as the Democratic nominee in the fall.
Posted by: muckraker
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March 4, 2008 01:35 PM
Thanks doc that was on one level incredibly funny but in the spirit in which it was done it represents the general loathing which the Obama people epitomize; and all from their ivory perch above the rest of us. How Divine Right monarchy of them!
I heard another such "ignorant anti-Hillary press" comment this morning by John King of CNN. I almost fell off the treadmill at the gym when he blamed Hillary for the "drama" of the impeachment during her husband's administration and that people did not want to relive that era. Sorry John boy, when you don't understand history, you should keep your mouth shut. Just another example of the unthinking press.
Posted by: Janus
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March 4, 2008 01:48 PM
Ya know hardly a day goes by that someone or something doesn't tell us we got to stay the course, face the facts, buck up, get real, bear down, stick with it.....you name it. Work hard, play hard, take your licks, pay your dues, earn your keep, wait it out. And don't forget how many times you've been told Rome wasn't built in a day.
So it seems pretty silly that letting the political process run it's course is somehow damaging to the Democratic Party and the nation. We want everything to be easy, quick, painless...packaged in a small enough bite to fit People Magazine or a video clip on the evening news. Why not let Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. fight it out to the very end. Let every state in the union have a vote and count it all up when the voting is over. I swear to Allah I'd say the same thing if Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. was behind.
Our father who art in the White House these last 7 years has taught us to roll over....just shut up and roll over and remember, shut up! These values are not what made America great and able to whip the rest of the world in 1945. It's not hurting a damn thing for even Huckabee to stay in the race. Let every dog have his or her day.
And since the bulk of the 35 million that Hillary raised last week and the 50 million that Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. raised last week will go into the greedy hands of the MSN, I think that explains why they've turned their Hillary bashing skills on Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. in the last week.....to keep this fight going on very profitably for themselves...to the very end. As much as they hate Hillary, it would cost them a lot of very easy money if she dropped out tomorrow. They're playing a game with our lives.
Let them fight it out! In the end I'm still hoping they'll be a team since that's the best way we can beat the Dirty Tricks faction of the RNC this coming November. If the Democratic Party and the nation are so weak that Hillary and Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. fighting and feuding will destroy it..........let's just call Osama and tell him we give up now! Let the process work and if we can keep our foot on the Diebold neck....let the best woman or man win! Adults Unite!
Posted by: Deathbyinches
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March 4, 2008 01:53 PM
Look the press was so God awful against Bill Clinton, I do think Hillary is overdue for some patty cake press coverage
And she has gotten it, I thought it strange that she always played that card knowing it would eventually come full circle, but the press has not only rolled over for Hillary they do her bidding for her... I mean look at the about face MSNBC made for her or where exactly did the story about her not disclosing her tax returns (after giving herself a $5 million contribution) go?...into the ether because someone talked to Canada!!
Anyway I don't think she should drop out of the race, she has ever right to stay in the race as long as she would like. I do wish she would quit fear mongering
But there is no hate for her if she would just get out of the gutter
We, as Obamists,wish Hillary all the best and hope she has two strong second place finishes in Ohio and Texas Today.
We don't play the hate or the fear card, WE ARE THE HOPE MONGERS!!!
COME ON OBAMA!!!
Posted by: Orval Eugene
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March 4, 2008 01:56 PM
I think it is sad commentary on the state of our nation when we choose our President based on not how they unite people but how well they attack those who disagree with them. We wouldn't tolerate that behavior in our children, but we reward our elected officials for it.
I have been a Democrat since I could vote, and it makes me sick to see my party -- and I mean the people in it, not some faceless monolith -- lower itself to the level of Republicans.
If Hillary gets the nomination I will campaign against her and vote McCain. I will not reward her win-at-all-costs behavior. I am tired of partisan hate politics and the Democrats go there they can go without me.
Posted by: The Levee
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March 4, 2008 01:56 PM
Click on Cato for tough questions directed to Obama.
Posted by: Cato
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March 4, 2008 02:03 PM
Cartoon on the topic click on Cato
Posted by: Cato
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March 4, 2008 02:04 PM
That's funny, Janus...I tend to think it's the other way around with respect to your ivory perch comment...
It seems to me that the Clinton supporters tend to have the sharpest tongue on this blog...as we lowly Obama supporters don't know squat about squat...
Either way, I believe the Democratic Party wins tomorrow...
But with the Clinton campaign behaving this way (blue name) nobody wins...
Posted by: rosso
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March 4, 2008 02:09 PM
She certainly could stay in the race if she fails to win both Texas and Ohio, or barely wins both but fails to make up much ground against his ~150 pledged delegate lead. But her campaign's status will be reduced to the hoping for a miracle stage, and I do wonder if that's a situation this powerful politician would tolerate. Maybe so. But that phone call from Bill Richardson won't be any fun.
Posted by: JuneOf44
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March 4, 2008 02:10 PM
"Everyone is so concerned now where all of the candidates are born. McCain was born on a military base in Panama. Hillary was born outside Chicago, and if you believe the media, Barack Obama was born in a manger." --Jay Leno
Posted by: Cato
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March 4, 2008 02:11 PM
Here is another classy campaign tactic...
But I'm just a knee-jerk nitwit...
Posted by: rosso
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March 4, 2008 02:30 PM
Rosso: You don't think it's the Obama supporters looking down from thier ivory perch? I do because of the way any questioning of him is met with such an outcry. He is afterall the one who set out to reform our politics by the audacity of hope. How can anyone question the oracle? He is change, everyone else is the old politics of division. He leads a "movement", is inspirational, can redeem the politics of bad. I just see those as ivory tower - above the fray attitudes.
The name calling [Obama substitution] you point out is out of bounds.
I just think that this whole campaign however, has to play out until there is a clear decision [number of delegates]. If the party [dismissing for this conversation the effects of independents and crossover voters] is so closely divided, any result short of a clear accounting of all the delegates, will leave a very bitter taste in some mouths which will not be good come November.
Posted by: Janus
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March 4, 2008 03:47 PM
I agree that the whole campaign for delegates has to play out, Janus...good for the infrastructure of both campaigns, whoever wins...
And I am not on any kind of perch with my preferred candidate, by any means...and I understand that there are some overzealous supporters in both camps...
I keep thinking back to '03-'04 when Kerry and Edwards were lobbing bombs at one another before Kerry got the nod...but back then it was easier for Dems in each camp to come together because beating Bush was priority uno...
Hopefully mistakes past have become a lesson...
Posted by: rosso
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March 4, 2008 04:01 PM
The democrats are idiots. They don't want to win. Al Gore? Kerry? Now, Hillary and Obama? What a joke.
Maybe McCain won't be as big a disaster as W.
Posted by: Fletch
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March 4, 2008 04:07 PM
Rosso: Hopefully mistakes past have become a lesson...
I hope so too. Either will make a far better candidate than Kerry.
Posted by: Janus
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March 4, 2008 05:02 PM
The national media's unabashed lust for Obama has been such that the only remaining step is exchanging bodily fluids.
Posted by: muckraker
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March 4, 2008 05:11 PM