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I think that Obama's political career is over. Hillery will not win! That is just facts.
Anyone stupid enough to have a pastor that says warlike comments like his pastor said will not be elected for anything.
Wright sounds like a terrorist.

"Anyone stupid enough to have a pastor that says warlike comments like his pastor said will not be elected for anything. Wright sounds like a terrorist. " - chasv

Is chasv a real person? I feel like I'm the brunt of a sick joke here.

Chasv is an avatar for all that is stupid. An archetype of the most inane of what the conservative movement has to offer. A person whose maximum utility in society is lifting heavy objects.

Nope. When McCain gets on a debate stage with Obama, and people hear what both have to say, there's no chance that anyone with two brain cells to rub together votes for McCain. Remember when Bill Clinton and Bob Dole shared a stage? It was like seeing someone debating your senile great-grandpa. Plus, the news from Iraq gets steadily worse--violence flaring, the ceasefire over, the "surge" turns out to be permanent. This is what McCain has staked his candidacy to. Obama's going to make him look like Walter Mondale.

Nobody with a lick of sense is going to hold Obama responsible for the crazy (or not-so-crazy) things his pastor says. Just think about some of the crazy shit *your* preacher has told you--the earth is 6000 years old, there was a boat with two of every animal on it, a guy got eaten by a fish and lived to tell about it. Mitt Romney's pastor tells him that his magic underwear is going to protect him from Satan. Pat Robertson and Jerry Fallwell think that God blew up the twin towers because lesbians in Vermont can get married. We're supposed to get excited because Obama's preacher is suspicious of white people?

Keep up the delusional thinking, Hillary supporters; it is all you have left.

Care to post a link to the so-called Dean-like drop in the polls? Dean droped 54 points to Kerry in New Hampshire, from a 30 point lead to a 14 point loss.

By contrast, the post-speach polls largely have Obama gaining on Hillary. Don't let the facts get in the way of your argument, though.

The transparency of Clinton's attempt to change the conversation from Sniper-gate is embarrassing, and her embrace of the Wright issue will backfire.

It is over Hillary supporters. I like you all, but this is getting silly. It is time to accept reality and burry the hatchet.

Pardon-- Dean dropped 44 points.

It didn't help him politically, but it also didn't sink him.

His poll numbers are still strong, and his speech seemed to save a lot of his followers.

The bottom line is, he denounced the comments, assured everyone that his pastor does not speak for him (he's more than capable in that regard), and he threw Wright off his team of spiritual advisors.

Also, he's a little farther along than Dean was...and that counts for a lot.

A bit sad to see Hillary and her supporters still trying to flog this for a little benefit.

And actually, the way the polls look, it won't end up mattering much.

Archaeopteryx, if McCain doesn't say anything else he will be the next president not because he's particularly better but because the democrats don't have what America needs!
There is no need for McCain to debate Obama at all..... The race is over, period. The democraps party lose again.
And, UNTILL they get their act together the democarp party is DEAD... gone to hell. Burning, smoking.
Get some decent people back in the democrat party so people will not be ashamed to vote for their candidates again.

Here's an idea, chasv.

Tell us why the "democraps are dead." Give us substantive, logical reasons.

Your posts are akin to me saying, "Republicans are so gay! Maybe if they were more likable people would vote for them! GAY GAY GAY."

All you're adding to the discussion at this point is encumbering filler to the web pages. A random text generator would do the same.

It's amazing that Democrats have a front-runner who is afraid to allow re-votes in Michigan and Florida.

CharlieV better be careful when you mention being dead and McBush in the same few sentences.

You never know with your direct link to god's mind and all that, how your very thoughts could get
mixed up and transferred onto McBush causing him to croak.
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meanwhile Madame not only goes to Richard Mellon Scaife's newspaper to resurrect Rev. Wright for another round of flogging, but this morning the Clinton Campaign circulates by email an article from the American Spectator magazine asserting that "Obama has a Jewish problem".

is this the "Kvetch'in Sink Strategy" ?

Obama must be confident because at least twice in the past two weeks, i've heard him describe Senator Clinton's assertions as "Chutzpah".

Well, buddy fuddy duti tuti ruddy boody, The only, ONLY, thing the democraps have going for them is the ecomomy which in conjuntion with gay marriages and abortions and women's lib and and and lots other things makes it dead. Abomination. If not for the ecomomy the democraps would not get a vote. Thus, it is dead.
I have and will always say it the domocraps are the best thing the republicans have going for them.
That is why we have the war, why oil and gas is robbing us. WE are forced to vote against he democraps, not for republican but against the democraps.. seeeeeee d$@# it.

..................."Well, buddy fuddy duti tuti ruddy boody".................

Chasv, You Rock!

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Chasv, I'm not sure "cogito ergo sum" applies to you.

Jake, you must be blind like many(not all) others who refuse to see the truth. You vote your pocket book.

Here's more from the Blue-on-Blue file, which Max's minions don't seem to pay attention to:

"WASHINGTON (AP) - Twenty top Democratic donors who are supporting Hillary Rodham Clinton criticized House Speaker Nancy Pelosi for saying superdelegates should support the presidential candidate with the most pledged delegates."

They all made sure to note that they give plenty to the DCCC as well (hint, hint).

Popcorn is a poppin'!

Yeah, Chasv, you rock.....you should be on Leno late, late, late at night.
You, and your kind, have driven me from church......
better if you had a millstone tied 'round your neck.

Anyone know....do they have access to computers in Benton????

UH-OH
Now you've done it...here come the "Hillblazers."

"The only, ONLY, thing the democraps have going for them is the ecomomy which in conjuntion with gay marriages and abortions and women's lib and and and lots other things makes it dead. Abomination." -chasv

Well, chasv, that's why the Democrats are PERFECT for me. I like to kill the unborn and I think the gays should take over the world and turn everyone gay and force red-blooded Americans like yourself to perform sodomy. And If possible, those gays who control the world should be Jewish/minority women--that'd be icing on the cake. Therefore, I vote Democratic.

Better Wright than Carville

"I think that Obama's political career is over. Hillery will not win! That is just facts.
Anyone stupid enough to have a pastor that says warlike comments like his pastor said will not be elected for anything.
Wright sounds like a terrorist."

What bothers me the most is the level of bigotry in this country. Francis Schaeffer, founder of the Religious Right, who sat with numerous Presidents "in" the White House called for the overthrow of the American government by Christians and Rev. Wright is a terrorist? No other candidate has been required to renounce, denounce or any other "nounce" to get elected even when America feared that the Pope would run America from Rome when JFK was running . One of the signs of bigotry and racial inequality is the old double standard. Rev. Huckabee defended Rev. Wright because he is no fool. He knows if someone digs up tapes from his days in the pulpit, Rev. Wright's issues would be minuscule.

Anybody watch Bill Clinton's recent (March 16, I believe, but am not absolutely certain) interview with students at MTVu?

It was embarrassing. It was downright mendacious.

Smith College student reporter Liily Lamboy asked him about Melissa Etheridge's observation (in the LOGO session of the Democratic candidates with members of the gay community) that, once elected, he threw the gay community under the bus.

He became angry and began to go on and on about the Defense of Marriage Act AS IF HE SIGNED AND SUPPORTED IT TO PROTECT GAY CITIZENS.

His precise words were (my transcript), "The idea behind the Defense of Marriage Act was not to ban gay marriage, but simply to say that if a marriage was, just because Massachusetts recognized a gay marriage, that Hilary and I at the time defended their right to do, that marriage had always been a matter of state law and religious practice, let me, let me. The Defense of Marriage Act did nothing to change that. All it said was that Idaho did not have to recognize a marriage sanctified in Massachusetts. And that seemed to be a reasonable compromise in the environment of the time, and it's a slight rewriting of history for Melissa, whom I very much respect, to imply that somehow this was anti-gay when I had more openly gay people in my administration and did more for gay rights and tried to provide an opportunity for gays to serve in the military and did provide an opportunity for gays to serve in civilian positions involving national securities that they had previously been denied from serving in, that's a little bit of re-writing of history there."

When asked by Lilly Lamboy what's his position now, he replied,

"The important thing is what's Hilary's position. Hilary's position is that she doesn't support it, and if we have the votes to repeal it, she'll be happy to repeal it."

Then he asked Lily Lamboy if there will be more or fewer efforts to ban gay marriage constitutionally around the country if a Massachusetts marriage has to be sanctified in Utah. "We live in the real world here," he retorts, drowning out her attempt to reply.

She answered that Bill Clinton was trying to make a political backlash argument--an unconvincing one, she implied.

His response was that he was talking about substantive backlash. He asked the reporter if there would be more or fewer gay couples free of harassment if the law is that every gay couple in America who could go to Massachusetts to marry would then have to be recognized in Utah?

Lilly Lamboy then asked in response: "When is that going to change, though, if you're not willing to set a firm stance in favor or against it?

I'll tell you what Hilary's position is. Hilary's position is that she's opposed to it, and she's also believes that we can now, she's also opposed to the ban on gays serving in the military."

My editorial comment: does Bill Clinton recall the history of the Civil Rights movement in the 1950s and 1960s in his home state of Arkansas and in the American South? I'm not too many years younger than he is.

I remember it well. NOTHING WOULD HAVE CHANGED IF ACCORDING CIVIL RIGHTS TO AFRICAN AMERICANS HAD BEEN LEFT UP TO THE STATES. Recognition of civil rights had to be mandated by the Supreme Court, with the President backing what the Court mandated.

It is spectacularly and astonishingly wrong for Clinton to imply that, by passing a law "defending" marriage at the federal level, he was defending gay citizens! This argument makes as much sense as saying that anyone who tried to leave the recognition of African-American civil rights up to the choice of each state was motivated by concern to safeguard African Americans. Clinton knows otherwise. So do we all. The motivation of those who wanted recognition of black civil rights left up to each state was to RESIST RECOGNITION OF THE RIGHTS OF AFRICAN AMERICANS.

Mr. Clinton's own words belie his argument in the MTVu interview. In a June 1996 interview in the Advocate magazine, Clinton said: " I remain opposed to same-sex marriage. I believe marriage is an institution for the union of a man and a woman. This has been my long-standing position, and it is not being reviewed or reconsidered."

I thought then and I continue to think that I will take the "defense" of marriage and the definition of marriage seriously if it comes from someone else's lips, other than Bill Clinton's.

"what is WINNING?" asks the innocent
for the curious mind inquires
"different things" responds the aged one
"depending upon to what one aspires"
a sprinter in a marathon's
the one who quickly tires
scorching the earth in attrition
is easy, if that's all one desires
but a rising tide not only lifts all boats
it may also drown all fires

Hillary wasn't kidding around about landing under sniper fire.

utube proof at blue.
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Keep scramblin', Max. It's just not going to work. You're the worst Shrillary surrogate ever.

Sorry for the late response, chasv, but me and the missus was out doing laundry together. There is nothing special about saying someone votes teir pocketbook considering it's one of the many reasons we have for voting. Additionally, we vote on principles and biases. So you've said something neither derogatory or praiseworthy.

I think my original statement still holds true based upon the lack of context in your criticism as well as in its vapidness and lack of support. The democrap/rethuglican name-calling is sort of the trans fat of political criticism -- it has no value and is generally bad for your heart but it sure adds to the plenty of calories (fuel) to the mix.

Fox is doing a big harangue about how consdervatives outgive liberals in charitable donations. Did you know that your tithes are charitable donations? There are many times more rich conservatives than rich liberals. So, FAux Noise throws out a distorted piece of data without context and has their pundits ranting about Obama's charity/

The news has been mostly noise and noisome in regards to politics lately and Fox seems to lead in both categories. One could hazard a gues, but I think their motto is 'agitato ergo sum" - I agitate, therefore I am.

perhaps the country would get into a lot less trouble if people would vote their children's (and grand-children's) pocketbooks?

Jake, what is this out doing laundry together?? Is that some kind of new sexual turn on,
like viagra or sex toys?? What am I missing???
I open the laundry room door, fill the washer with non sexy dirty clothes, add soap, water,
same oh, same oh for years and years,,,never got excited..........
you made it sound so appealing, like something we should all try.
Maybe next thing the fundies will condem will be public doityourself laundries...........
no need for sex shops anymore with their purple battery operated peni.........
Lets all go to the laundry and drive them crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My favorite minister often led her entire congregation in this song:

Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today...

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace...

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world...

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one

JD and jazzy you are your own worst enemy...
jazzy if you are out of church don't blame it on anybody but your self.
I really don't believe Hillery and Obama will be in politics much longer.

Well, Miss Jazzy, since we don't have washer/dryer combo at our hacienda, once every 3-4 weeks, me and the missus haul it all to the laundromat to git 'er done. I don't want to brag, but she & I can wash, dry, and fold 4 weeks worth of dirty laundry in about 90-100 minutes. Watching some of those ladies tossing their size 60 petite panties into the laundry basket has yet to create a dance in my pants mood.

As to Viagra, I aint needed any yet. Mind you, had to throw away that damned Kama Sutra years ago after the chandelier broke and stick to somewhat simplified, but still highly satisfying, positions.

As far as Bro Chasv goes, I just like to tweak his self-righteousness a bit every now and then but I sort of like the rascal a bit. He comes here regularly enough despite our abuse and continues to witness to the witless (as I suspect he sees it). I've already had all the serious arguments I want with chasv and neither of us will change because of the other. I'm happy with the way I am and he's trying to convince me I shouldn't be. Doesn't make sense to me, but that's the way he is.

Anyway, Miss Jazzy, give your man Frenchy a sniff of that Mountain Rain laundry soap and he'll be raring and randy.

Jakester

Jake, the only I thing you must do is be born again... and that goes for dbi, jd, jazzy. elwood.
So you all can go to heaven when you leave this life/world.
God loves you all and sent his only Son to die so you might have life, eternally.

I didn't take David Koon's post to suggest Rev. Wright would cost Sen. Obama the nomination (As someone here pointed out the other day, I can't believe anyone thinks superdelegates and party elders are going to risk not just alienating -- but infuriating -- a large and loyal constituency).

But couldn't it cost Barack the presidency? Supporters of Sen. Obama seem to keep framing the question in a way that is inherently positive for him -- will anybody hold him responsible for his nutty pastor?

Isn't the question whether anyone hold him responsible for continuing to attend and support a theology laced with (although not consisting solely of) hate?

Because I have to say, as an African-American, if I found out a candidate was a member and for many years a supporter (not someone who happened to pass through, or who accepted a check rom) a congregation where the pastor railed Sunday after Sunday after "baby-making welfare blacks" and "90% of crime coming from the blacks" and the blacks turning our schools into prisons, and the blacks being the root of all problems . . . I don't know if the candidate saying, "Aw, that's just my ol' crazy uncle" would do it for me.

I'm just saying . . . .

I'll cut you a deal, chasv, I'll say I believe in Jesus Christ as my savior if you let me kill half a million Iraqis, plunder the poor, rape the environment, disenfranchise minorities......

Jake we had a death in our family last week. Our beloved 1982 Kenmore Heavy Duty washer came to the end of it's sudsy life. I spent 2 days laying hands on it and combing the Internet tubes trying to find a last ditch cure for the old feller. But alas after much research and prying and poking our washer was pronounced dead last Tuesday at 3:34 pm.

Living with 3 women, this quickly became a national emergency. The girls traipsed off to the local laundromat, this being a totally new experience for our daughters who were born awhile after 1982 and had always known the hum and shake of our Kenmore. They returned with piles of fresh clothes and horror stories of people forced to deal with coin operated washers their whole lives. Bless their hearts.

Well...I had had enough and I left and drove down Grand Avenue in search of an affordable washer that would save my kids from another laundromat visit. By 5 o'clock I had made a new friend for life. A 1990 Kenmore Heavy Duty has come to live with us for a mere 145 pieces of silver. As I type our new friend is working away to make for a cleaner America and a more tranquil home life. And since I didn't have to buy a new machine I have enough money left for the kids lunch money for the rest of the week. The only unfinished business I have left is to bury our old friend. It may yet wind up on the front lawn of our local Republican Party chief........time to Clean Up DC....ya know.

Now for chasv.......I think your God is a pretty sick guy. First he creates a planet and fills it with people to torture at his pleasure. Not being happy with inventing good....he has to go and invent evil. After a few zillion years he decides he wants a son for his own entertainment. Because he thinks women are icky, he uses hocus pocus to impregnate a poor dumb teenage virgin via remote control.

So when the new wears off this new son, God decides to run him thru the meat grinder of Romans and Jews and hang him on a cross until he croaks in the hot sun. (It was too early in world history to put Jesus in a microwave.....that would come 2000 years later) Then the cave, then the rolling rock (damn fine beer I might add) then the stairway to heaven (a hit for both Gershwin & Led Zeppelin) then yada yada yada.....here we are today! I give it 2 thumbs down, plus it's too hard to dance to. So I must respectfully refuse the invitation to join your club, chasv. But thanks for askin.

I like this Rev. Wright. Especially when you see the full version, you see there is nothing wrong with what he said. If I was a black man, I'd have his words tattoo down my back like a page in a book. It is uniquely American to admit when you've FK'ed up, though our government rarely admits it. Our government gave out a cash "I'm Sorry" to the Japanese Americans they rounded up in WWII, but it was 1990 something when they did and too many Japanese Americans were already taking dirt naps and missed the big party. We're still trying to figure out how to say 'I'm Sorry" to the offspring of former slaves. Maybe by 2100 that will be in the bag.

You know I'm still pulling for Hillary, but it is only right to defend Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. when people try to lynch him with his own preacher. Especially when they edit the video clips to make it appear Rev. Wright is saying something he isn't. Who knows....like Ken Starr changed me from a Republican to a Democrat in the 90s, this whole Rev. Wright thing combined with Hillary imagining she was under fire in Bosnia may make a Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. man out of me yet.

Rev. Wright is talking about our government changing, Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. is talking about our government changing. Dinosaurs like chasv are perfect examples of why it's time for our government to change. My problem with Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. isn't that he's black. I'm beginning to think my problem with Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. is within me. The unrelenting bullshit of the last 10 or 15 years in politics and our government have made me too cynical to believe there is one good man or woman left to lead us out of bondage. Bush & Cheney are the Sodom & Gomorrah of humanity. How can we ever truly believe in another politician ever again? No matter....I will be voting Democrat should there be elections in November.

Jake, the only I thing you must do is be born again<<

Why can't god get it right the first time?
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Well, let's see. The two-year old Harvard Medical School study of prayer's effect on ill people not only demonstrated that "prayer" has no clinical effect either way on healing, but also verified that those who "knew" they were being prayed for fared slightly worse than those who didn't know they were being prayed for.

That's right. Knowing people are praying for you impedes your recovery. Clinically.

Not knowing people are praying for you makes absolutely no difference in your recovery.

With or without belief in God makes not one whit of difference in your recovery from accident or illness, according to the Harvard study.

Just don't tell the religionists. Facts don't matter to them. Truth? They're out to impose their "beliefs" on every American.

Their beliefs?

Here, in a nutshell, paraphrasing Founding Father Thomas Paine in "The Age of Reason": So God debauches an underage virgin girl in a dream, who informs her much older husband (Joseph), "I'm, uh, pregnant with God's son."

Okay.

Then God sets it up where his one and only son gets betrayed and brutally murdered at age thirty.

Coincidentally, on the same day the ancient Egyptians celebrated the Vernal Equinox, named for the goddess "Estre" -- from which we get the word estrogen and whose symbols were the rabbit (for fecundity) and the egg (for fertility) 5, 600 B.C. E.

Until that ancient holiday was usurped by the Roman Church at the Constantinople Congress of 315 A.D. under swordpoint. I.e., "Don't believe this stuff? Don't conform to what we're telling you? Die, blasphemer!"

Okay.

Then God's son's corpse resurrects after three days and flies into the sky, where he waits for you to die and join him because Life on earth is so horrible. (Uh, then why did God give birth to us here on earth in the first place - oh, never mind.)

And the only course you have to eternal salvation (because you are born as sinful scum) is to believe this myth and pretend to eat human flesh and drink human blood once a week.

Okay.

And tithe 10% to that guy in that dress who channels God for you and treats you like one of a flock of sheep.

God forbid you should ever seriously question any of this.

That's not me. That's Thomas Paine.

So we're now being offered, as candidates for POTUS . . . a 72-year-old adulterous POW with severe quick-trigger anger-management issues who doesn't know the difference between Sunni and Sh'ite . . . and has even LESS understanding about our current (and worsening) economic crisis . . .who's likely to croak in office, thus sticking us with his VP as POTUS. Who, in God's name, would THAT be? Lieberman?

Moving to the Democrat ticket, we've got the political equivalent of Tammy Wynette with bigger cajones than the man she "stood by" through the Blue Dress Years. Smart, present, coiffed, informed, articulate and . . . wait a minute: a liar. Landed in Bosnia under sniper fire. Except that wasn't true.

She's also a racist, as witness her not-so-subtle attacks on Barack Obama's melanin.

And, of course, she's a religious bigot. With her ostensible (cover) membership in the Methodist Church (you know: "Open Minds, Open Hearts, Open Doors" except they expelled their only honestly lesbian minister two hears ago. So much for Methodist "openness.")

Which only plays if you're ignorant of Hillary's support of The Fellowship ("The Family") and her acknowledgement of Doug Coe as her "spiritual mentor" - you know: the minister who equates Jesus Christ with Hitler - in a GOOD way . . .

. . . then contrast her with Barack Obama, who attended Rev. Wright's church for 20 years without realizing his Rev. Wright was a hyper-racist homophobic black bigot who preached that AIDS was a manufactured virus created by the US government to eradicate blacks . . .

Among other bullshit "direct from God" . . .

These, apparently, are our choices for POTUS.

An impulsive hair-triggered adulterous flip-flopping septuagenarian who foresees our troops duking it out in Iraq for another hundred years; with something medically hinky going on with his left jaw, which nobody will talk about because it brings up the question - what happens if he dies in office? Which NOBODY wants to address.

OR, our first woman President. A brilliant, determined, idealistic, committed Candidate who's lied about landing in "sniper fire" in Bosnia and who's caved to her "advisors" (one hopes: or are these her personal perspectives?) in race-bating and religion-bating.

OR, our first black President. A brilliant, determined, idealistic, committed Candidate who's spent 20 years attending and supporting one of the most racist, homophobic churches in America and only just now disavows some of his Reverend Wright's ugliest pronouncements.

Don't shoot ME.

I'm just pointing out that these POTUS Candidates are all three clinically dysfunctional.

It's a pity for America that this is the best we can offer.

Who, among these Candidates, remotely represents the strength, idealism and leadership that used to characterize this once-great country?

"For nearly two decades Barack Obama has attended a black church on the South Side of Chicago that his own mother could never have felt comfortable in. It subscribes to a "Black Value System" in which "black" was always the operative word--"black family," "black community," "black freedom," etc. But it was not a black value system that accounted for Obama's success in life; it was the values of his white Midwestern mother. Could he stand up in his own church and say this?"
-- SHELBY STEELE
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1689619,00.html

I have been surprised so many Democrats defend Obama and his hate mongering preacher.
In the fall, the Republicians and the right wing talk shows will have no problem defining
both of them.

After the loss, the Democrats will whine about the unfair attacks, and compare it to Willie Horton
and the Swiftboaters. But, they will only have themselves to blame.

JD, you can't cut any deal with anyone 'till you are born again and then I doubt it.
People, know what, Jesus was God!
Man are you so ignorant that you are blind.
Some of you are just wasting away your life.. that is your right, though.
We are free moral agents to do whatever you want.
After Christ rose from the grave he walked among men for 40 days being seen of as much as five hundred people at one time.
What is in you? What is it that makes you alive... it is that soul in you called your spirit and it will never die but will be somewhere for all eternity, either in heaven or in hell.
It is your choice.

Bye Bye Billy, Hilly, and Skippy R. you fooled some of the people some of the time but not all of the poeple all of the time! The ride was fun and it was real, but it wasn't real fun!!!!! The truth finally catches up with you!

Chasv,
I've read through your posts today. I could respond to several of your comments, but I simply don't have a few hours to sit here and type all of that, and ultimately, you wouldn't listen anyway. I take comfort in the fact that you know so little about electoral politics. That's all I need to know to be able to walk away from this debate without even starting it. You might ask, "Why?" It's simple really. I'm picturing your face on election night. I'm picturing you STILL talking about how Obama and Hillary's careers are over 5 years from now. I'm picturing you thinking you have it all figured out and realizing that you're completely clueless someday. It makes my heart smile. Overly schadenfraude? Possibly. Do I care? No. There is one simple truth to all of this....one thing that can sway this election away from the Democrats. And you, nor I, nor anyone on this blog can do anything about it. And that's a terrorist attack in late summer. It's bound to happen. Al-Quada is loving the status quo, and they would simply prefer that we stay in Iraq, depleting valuable resources to fight a battle they're barely involved in (NIE suggests they make up about 4% to 8% of the insurgency). Hell, us invading Iran is their wet dream! Talk about killing two birds with one stone! You really think they want either of the Dems to win? Hell no. And, ironically, all they have to do is play up the reverse pyschology, knowing that we will do exactly the opposite of what they say (this in no way means they want us to STAY in Iraq - let's not forget their top complaint was our troops stationed in Saudi Arabia; they are simply benefiting from us being there FOR NOW and they want to exploit that for a while longer).

PS. Sarin bombs on subways, if I had to put my money on how it will go down (CIA reports show they've possessed high quality sarin since 2004, and withheld the attack because they were afraid it would backfire and cause Bush to lose re-election).

Billary,
What do you have against Skip Rutherford? That's the 2nd or 3rd time I've seen you be critical of him. I know he used to be a Clinton advisor, but he's doing a FANTASTIC job with the Clinton School of Public Service. You should be proud that the UA system has produced a college that doesn't just compete for Ivy League graduates, but one that Ivy League graduates compete to go to. That's an extremely formidable graduate school that is producing excellent leaders and has inspired other schools (Syracuse, Harvard, etc) to adopt their unique educational style. Show some pride in your state, regardless of whether the progress was brought by a Democrat or a Republican. You think I hate ArKids because the Huckster signed it into law? No. It's a good program that we should be proud of, regardless of who gets the credit.

hey devil it's very possible I know more than you do of politics because your idea stinks up to high heaven... Obama nor Hillery will not be the next president. If you read my comments you know that the dem are the best thing going for the other party..... period.....
I am like you I can't respond to all these comments which really means nothing anyway. just hot air.
I do not think we should have gone over there and I think it is past time we get out... I think our government is full of criminals. Crimes mostly against the people who voted them in office.
Sickening. We could do much better with no government. Much better.