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ESPN interviews John Brady, the former LSU basketball coach now at Arkansas State University. Relevant to us:

There is one thing from Brady's past, though, that he wouldn't mind preserving -- the chance to get booed annually by 17,000 Arkansas fans. Brady noted that his LSU program annually played teams from around Arkansas, and he wouldn't mind the same courtesy being extended to his new program, even if it gets a bit rough on his ear drums.

 "I would certainly play them in Fayetteville and play them in Little Rock and then see if they'd come to Jonesboro and play," Brady said. "I think it would be great for basketball in the state and would create a lot of interest."

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ASU has a funny attitude on this. They complain about the UofA not playing them, but they refuse to play UCA. Brady should agree to play UCA in basketball. Then he would be justified in demanding that the UofA play him.

That's ridiculous. UCA is Division 2, while ASU, UAF and UALR are all Division 1-A. It will happen after Frank dies, all because of his fantasy that UAF is the only D-1 school in the state, which has not applied since the early 1990s.

Playing UCA would HURT ASU in RPI rankings, unless it was designated as an exhibition game, as happens when Memphis plays Christian Brothers University, which, like UCA, is a Division 2 Gulf South Conference school.

Same ol straw man Kyle.

ASU and UCA played home/home in baseball last season. When did UA and ASU last meet in baseball?
ASU and UCA played in Conway in soccer this season. When did UA and ASU last meet in soccer?
ASU played at UCA's tournament in volleyball. When did UA and ASU last meet in volleyball?

For that matter ASU has played UCA in men's basketball and football more recently than any meeting with UA.

If you are a UCA fan kick up about UA not playing you. Their football schedule of later more often features a I-AA 'scuse me FCS school than ASU's does and playing Southland schools in basketball is quite common.
If you are UA fan, shut yer yap about ASU's scheduling practices in state until you've scheduled a 10th of the in-state competitions ASU has played.


sjs1959: You are flat wrong. UCA is now Division I. In fact, UCA opened its basketball season against Kentucky at Rupp Arena this year.

Get your facts straight before you spout off

Way to attack sjs, Kyle.

Care to respond to Well?

Two different issues, Red. Of course UCA wants to play UofA, and UCA will "kick up" about it. But the fact is ASU is refusing to play UCA in basketball while it complains about UofA not playing them.

And how is it "attacking" to point out when someone is calling you "ridiculous" when they are just plain 100% wrong?

If ASU wants to play UA, make something of themselves as a bball program.

Why is it in UAs interest to play ASU in any sport at all?

The answer: it's not.

Well, gee, I don't want to stir things up, but there's really only ONE REAL Div 1 school in the state, verdad?
I wish they'd bring back that great old window sticker -- the one in an Old English font:
THE UNIVERSITY

sjs1959, UCA (in basketball) has played teams such as UCONN, Kentucky, Ole Miss, etc. over the past two seasons. They compete in the Division I Southland Conf. Do your homework next time before posting.

Yes Kyle, two very different issues.

ASU has no policy against playing instate opponents. There are four Division I institutions in the state other than ASU.

ASU has scheduled three of those four in various sports in regular season. UA being the sole exception.

ASU had an opportunity to black-ball UALR from the Sun Belt which was advocated by another conference member and ASU allowed UALR join despite having been left holding the bag when UALR backed out of multi-year deal.

ASU may not schedule UCA as often as you would care for but the analogy to UA fails miserably.

RazorbackDem, UA policy surely indicates the pinnacle of great thinking because after all this state is noted as a shining example of forward thinking. Funny how such games aren't in the interest of UA but over the past few years have come to be in the interest of your presumed peer institutions. Arkansas obviously knows far more about running a highly successful program than they do.

Ha! Well, the way you carefully choose your words, you would make a great politician!

"Various sports"? C'mon! We're not talking about "various sports".

We're talking about the big ones: football and basketball. And you are avoiding the million dollar question:

Why won't ASU play UCA in football and basketball?

Until they can answer that question, they shouldn't throw stones at the UofA.

UA is going to play UCA, ASU, UALR and UAPB when it gets good and ready because when it comes to best interests the Hogs are first at the trough.

What is it about playing the U of A that gets ASU fans and Little Rock Hog haters so god damn weepy? No amount of begging and crying is going to make it worthwhile for the UA to play the lesser in-state schools. I think it's pretty clear, given the desperation of ASU fans to get this game together, that only ASU has anything to gain. Why should the state's flagship university do those weepy sumbitches a favor?
Forget the arguments about fairness. Forget the arguments about UCA and ASU. Forget what other states are doing. Why is it in the U of A's best interest to play this game? It's not money. War Memorial sells out regardless of who we're playing, so a Little Rock match up doesn't provide us any extra incentive.

Seriously, why should the U of A do the lesser schools a favor?

Various sports is valid because the UA ban on in-state competition extends to all sports, unless it involves the post season.

As far as UCA, I think you may see them on the basketball schedule and eventually the football one.

However, it is disingenuous to argue that UA should not play until ASU and UCA play each other, as the in-state ban preceded UCA's elevation to FCS status. However, seeing as how ASU did play UCA when ASU was in Division I and UCA was in Division II, your argument is a bit flawed. Of course, you will argue "but ASU barely won" and that ASU "hasn't played them since." While these are factual, they do not support your basic argument since both schools actually played in a "big one," while the UA continues its flawed policy.

We're only a big enough state to support one athletic team if we want to be nationally competitive. Anybody with any sense would refuse to play ASU or UCA if they were in the same position as the Hogs. Everything to lose, nothing to gain. Arkansas doesn't produce enough D1 caliber recruits to support two schools. It's simple.

John Brady's Wife MISTY is EXTRA HOT!!!

I mean a serious serious stunner...Misty Brady is gonna be like dropping dynamite into the town of Jonesboro.

Hold on to your f-ing hat Mr. Willett, because Misty is gonna turn some heads in jonesvegas!

And I heard Governor Beebe made an in home call to Coach Brady a couple of days after being hired. So lets get this rival rocking.

Could care less about the Red Wolves but now that old Frank is gone from Fayetteville and we have rid our state of the Nutts, I see no reason why the Razorbacks would be scared to beat down the Indians...er... I mean Red Wolves every year.

And despite what anybody says John Brady was a great hire for ASU. A Final Four team could not sell tickets in Baton Rouge.

Those poor bastards who have to live in the absolute shithole that is Baton Rouge (aka the Detroit of the South) keep waiting for the second coming of Saban and Pistol Pete and it ain't gonna happen.

War the annual RAZORBACK v. red wolves game every December at Alltel !!!!

- the Big O.

The U of A may regard itself as the Harvard of the South -- nay, the Oxford, Cambridge, Harvard and Yale combined -- but it has trouble producing graduates who can write a simple declarative sentence, as the U of A grads on this blog consistently demonstrate, and the Razorbacks, despite the manufactured hysteria, will always regard a break-even season in the SEC as a grand accomplishment. The Hogs ought to apply for membership in the Sun Belt. Then a winning season every year. As a U of A grad, class of '62, I wish this were not true, but it is.

Well, Casimir, all I can figure out you must have had Ollie O. Maxfield/ Charlie Cross/Ab Bidwell/ as instructors to be such a sour puss. If you had taken classes under Dorsey Jones, Robert Reeser. James Hudson or Anne Vizzier you would be in the same delightful frame of mind enjoyed by Louie and me.

"but it has trouble producing graduates who can write a simple declarative sentence, as the U of A grads on this blog consistently demonstrate"

Easy there, Casimer...

Might be worth checking your own comment one more time...

'Course, what would I know 'bout grammar?

What a strange tack this thread has taken. I've read Casimir's sentence several times, and except for his using an en dash rather than an em dash and omitting a serial comma, I don't see much wrong with it.

Brady is right! Teams in other states do it why not in Arkansas?

While I have no quarrel with the ultimate point of the post, I feel obliged to say that if break-even seasons in the SEC were considered "grand accomplishment[s]," Stan Heath and Houston Nutt would both be securely entrenched on the Hill.

I'm an ASU grad and fan and UA fan who thinks the Hogs will never *voluntarily* play the Red Wolves.

The "other states do it" argument kind of makes the point of those who say UA has nothing to gain. The Universities of Oklahoma and Mississippi probably wish they *didn't* have to recruit against the "State" schools (and the Tulsas and Southern Misses); they probably wish most fans being introduced to the game through statewide media focused on them, instead of being splintered. For so long as it's left entirely up to UA, why would UA shoot itself in the foot by enhancing ASU's recognition and *perceived* status by playing the Red Wolves?

Now if the legislature decided the two ought to butt heads, that would be a different story.

"Brady is right! Teams in other states do it why not in Arkansas?"

If John Brady jumped off a bridge, would you do it? On a side note, is there a more satisfying thought than John Brady jumping off a bridge?

I'll be damned, I honestly didn't know UCA had moved up, and into ASU's old southland conference, no less.

Well, hopefully they will meet again, that would be fun.

Now, why is UAF so scared of ASU? Judging by the comments, they look down their noses at ASU for no reason; they're no better academically, that's for sure...

Middle 50 percentile ACT:

Arkansas State:
ACT Composite: 18 - 24

U of A: 23 - 29

The two top schools of higher education in Arkansas are:

THE University of Arkansas

Hendrix

Period.

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