Student-teacher sex challenge
Surprised the D-G didn't make way in the LR edition for this story from Bentonville.
The former high school teacher (pictured) charged with having sex with a student on his 18th birthday -- and also supplying a minor with alcohol -- intends to challenge the constitutionality of the Arkansas law that makes it a crime for a teacher to have sex with a student younger than 21. It was not otherwise illegal for the 32-year-old math teacher to bed an 18-year-old. She was arrested after blabbing, via text message, to a fellow teacher.







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Interesting.... I've followed the many stories about the antics of female teachers and their male students and always felt very conflicted by attitudes and outcomes. As the mother of 3 sons, I would be upset if a "Mrs. Robinson" invaded their lives. But also as the mother of 3 sons, I know that they would likely have been delighted and I couldn't in all honesty call it rape.
I normally rail against double standards for men and woman, but I was married to a man 10 yrs my junior, and I must say I never felt a moments guilt at the great sex, so I've never been able to make up my mind whether I think these women are criminals or what..........
Posted by: Ci.Ci
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May 16, 2008 10:52 AM
I feel sad for the guy having to wait until he was 18.
Seriously, what makes teachers different than cops different from bosses different from any other older adult authority? In a state where 14 year olds can get married and in a nation where 18 year olds get sent to Iraq, how is an 18 year old man having sex with a 32 year old teacher the worst offense against society?
Posted by: The Levee
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May 16, 2008 10:53 AM
When I saw the headline I was thinking this was going to be some kind of contest.
Posted by: Moxiemoron
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May 16, 2008 10:55 AM
From my take, the furnishing of alcohol was the bummer, not the providing of sex. But I could be wrong since we ship these 18 year olds in uniform to foreign lands to fight the wars for the old folks who created the conflicts.
Posted by: Cato
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May 16, 2008 11:03 AM
"Arkansas law specifies it is a crime for a public-school teacher to engage in sexual contact with a student younger than 21."
The 21 oughta be 18, and I hope the current law is ruled unconstitutional. I doubt it will be, though. Those who are 18 should also be legally entitled to buy alcohol, IMO.
Posted by: durangokid
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May 16, 2008 11:10 AM
All other issues aside, maybe there should be a law against being pure-dee dumb? By the way, when I was growing up, it was always the guys who blabbed about their conquests.
Posted by: Doigotta
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May 16, 2008 11:16 AM
This woman is stupid. She previously tried to challenge her firing from the school. By turning who she sleeps with into a constitutional issue she is goading the prosecutors and will now likely serve time in prison, have a felony conviction, and have to register as a sex offender. She is not going to find much sympathy challenging a law that is designed to protect children from authority figures (even though those children may be 18).
Posted by: ironfortified
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May 16, 2008 11:23 AM
Wow. I mean why are kids dropping out? They just don't have the right teachers to keep their interest up.
When I was in high school, my teacher wouldn't let me bang the erasers. (Credit to Dennis Miller for that one.) Who knew it would come this far.
We've gone from boring old extra-curricular to hot and steamy eXXXtra-curricular.
Teachers can now pick their own private Validicktorian and GPA be damned. Why strive to be impress your teacher by being tops during class when you can get some ass from her after class and really impress her by being tops and bottom.
Forget GPA and Class Ran. That's so old school. It's how many times did you get some from Ms. Hottie teacher that the top Liberal Arts Colleges want to know. Put that on your My Space page and get a guest spot on America's Next Top Teen Idol.
School has come a long way. We've gone from No Child Left Behind to Every Child Gets Behind. And at the more progressive schools it's the teachers lovely behind they get.
So I'm all for this new school approach. I was never much of a student and now I realize it wasn't me. I was just better suited to the current education model. Timing is everything.
Posted by: IABL1969
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May 16, 2008 11:23 AM
I do not get adults doing kids. I REALLY don't get attractive young woman doing boys. And one of the posters is right. The only tangible result that will be achieved by her challenging the Constitutionality of the statute will be that the prosecutors will be even more pissed off than they are now.
And she does not want that. Really.
Posted by: bopbamboom
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May 16, 2008 12:51 PM
Permanent change of career, yes. Prison, no. Everybody is better served with her paying taxes.
Posted by: bugeyedlittlefreak
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May 16, 2008 01:17 PM
18 is 18 is 18.. For Pete's sake.. the young man has been legally required to keep his zipper up for something like 7 years of hard hormones. As long as they didn't do it in the janitors closet on school property.. who the heck should care or have a legal say so.
At worst, the teacher should be fired due to violation of employment terms... at worst.
Posted by: Eureka Springs, AR
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May 16, 2008 01:46 PM
Now Ci.Ci, I think I'm the one in love!
Another tread asks if I want to be an astronaut....I say hell no! But if they're given away free rides, let me ride this horny teacher! Teenage boys have never changed...never will, but the world has changed while we were sleeping. When I was a kid 85 year old people slept most of the day and lived in the back room of a kind relative waiting for the loving hands of Jesus to come scoop them up and end their dark days of misery and nothingness. Today 85 year olds are running around in track shoes acting like they're 60. I'm sorely afraid some of em I know are still having the sexy time. Yikes!
So no wonder hot young teachers and hot young students are having trouble keeping their hands off each other. When I was 18 I couldn't keep my hands off myself either......oh.....uh. The only crime here is that she gave her teen lover a drink before she put a hoedown in his mouth, took his mouth to catfish heaven....oh wait...that's Long John Silvers......before she rocked his world. The boy was 18, he should be able to drink and FK since our government thinks he's perfectly old enough to die for a lie in Iraq.
All this is just juicy gossip, nothing more. Let her go and sin some more...we got bigger fish to fry and all them chickens to keep from coming home to roost. Good luck to the teacher....and by the way hon....does yer mom have email???
Posted by: Deathbyinches
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May 16, 2008 02:22 PM
If you at 18 you are considered an adult and you can be sent to war you should be able to buy alcohol and bof your 32 year old teacher.
People, make up your mind. Is 18 adult (got to war and die for our country, legally considered an adult) or is 18 a child (can't drink and can't screw a 32 year old)?
Posted by: kretara
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May 16, 2008 02:23 PM
I suggest the "I have been humiliated horribly defemse". That Wal-Mart Coughlin dude got off with mansion detention after stealing dang near a million bucks in giftcards. The judge said that he had suffered so from the shame that he had paid his debt to society.
From the look on her face in the mugshot I figure she has gotten at least as much embarrassment as old Tom the giftcard thief.
Get the same judge and plead disgrace.
Posted by: Citizen home
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May 16, 2008 03:12 PM
Hmmm, turn the tables. What if teacher was a coach, girl was a failing student?
'till 21" rule is questionable since (Ark) statutory rape ends at 16, and 18 for those under authority of others like boss/employee, parent/stepchild.
Seems today's kids get hit on every where they turn. The schools are either f**king them, torturing them, locking them up, humiliating them in the toilets, or dosing them with behavior altering meds. Advertisers have them pegged down to peer to peer marketing. All this on top of peer group pressure which seems to have increased over the decades.
No wonder private schools are booming.
Posted by: L.Wood
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May 16, 2008 03:16 PM
What if the teacher was Mr. Happee, the music teacher, and the 18 yr old boy allowed Mr Happee to suck him off?
Posted by: L.Wood
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May 16, 2008 03:21 PM
IABL1969,
Having seen Mr. Miller perform as a comedian, host, co-host and pundit, I can understand why she wouldn't let him "bang erasers."
He is as funny as one of Bush's unwitting malapropisms without the excuse of "unwitting."
Posted by: docholliday
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May 16, 2008 03:30 PM
For a high school teacher to have sex with an eighteen-year-old student is worthy of firing, but it's not felonious. That doesn't have anything to do with the gender of the teacher or the student or whether the genders are different or the same.
I hope she succeeds in striking down this law. I mean, if this was a teacher beating a student up--I don't mean corporal punishment, but a serious ass-kicking--this would be a matter of a few weeks in jail. Remember the cop that blew away the kid? He got, what, ninety days and a misdemeanor conviction? And we're talking about making this woman a felon and a registered sex offender for the rest of her life? That's ridiculous.
People need to get a little more perspective on sex. Probably they need to get a little more sex, too.
Posted by: John A Arkansawyer
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May 17, 2008 06:43 AM
If the Arkansas public has the alley cat morals expressed here, I can see why home schooling is so popular.
If Sweet Melissa wants to seduce the 18 year old boy stocking the shelves at Kroger, that might well
be ok.
With the code of conduct she desires, Mrs Monroe, can bed the entire Senior class as they turn eighteen. Billy in January, Toby, in February, Tommy in March, and Julie before she departs for the Senior trip.
Posted by: succubus_demon
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May 17, 2008 07:17 AM
Alley cats don't have morals, oh-so-ironically-named succubus_demon. People do. That's why we can have sex in an ethical manner. That doesn't necessarily mean mechanically pairing off into lifetime exclusive pairs.
Human sex is for human purposes, including enjoyment. If you don't enjoy it, don't have it, "succubus_demon". I'm sorry, but that name in this context is just too funny for words.
By the way, your last paragraph is false. No one, including the teacher in question, has suggested that the code of conduct so far as it involves her employment is a bad idea. It's whether it should be a violation of the criminal code that's being discussed.
Posted by: John A Arkansawyer
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May 17, 2008 11:00 AM
They hurt no one, but, maybe, themselves, mentally, it could have a life changing effect on the 18 yr old since eveyone who knows him may not associate with him as they would if not for the sex caper.
I think its may be a personal problem, till the next morning, anyway.let her move on to find another place to teach and let her know it won't be tollerate for her to do it again.. maybe.
I bet they'll get over it sooner or later, maybe.
Posted by: chasv
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May 17, 2008 07:56 PM
chasv, you continue to surprise me. Sometimes you seem capable of actual compassion and forgiveness. It's a nice thing to see.
You're even a little more forgiving than I am--I'd just as soon not see her teaching high school anymore. There are plenty of colleges that need good math teachers, and that's a better place for her.
Posted by: John A Arkansawyer
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May 18, 2008 07:50 AM