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I sure wish we in America had real journalists.. SOmeone needs to get both John and Cindy McCains opinion on this. I have to ask does the LR or Phoenix CC allow non white males, or is this just a sexist policy? And someone needs to get current photo of the entire McCain family together. Why are they hiding their children?

I'm an occasional visitor to the LRCC Mens Grill. It has the ambience and class of a high end Ramada Dad's Place, but with better drinks. It will be fun to see the rich fight each other over this second-hand smoke-drenched lounge. It will distract them from screwing the rest of us for a while.

But I thought we were equal now...that the gender battles were won.

Another prime example of why Hillary couldn't win.

The CCLR wouldn't have me as a member, and I wouldn't be comfortable there.

But the rich sons of bitches pay big bux to gather there and discriminate against each other, so I say let 'em screw the daylights out of one another if they want to.

If these dames would just show a little humility and respect, we'd let 'em in --- restricted hours, of course. Why d'ya think it's called the MEN'S grill?

You are equal, zelda. It started with Adam and Eve.
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I don't know why so many people think that only "the rich" are members of the CCLR. There are many very ordinary people among the membership. The initiation fee is only $3,500. Or was in 1967. Bless ole Orval Faubus's heart. He wanted, more than anything, to have a CCLR membership. The powers-that-be back then (long since dead) said "No way, Jose" I think it was more the women disapproving Alta than the men objecting to Orval. Riverdale, Western Hills, and other CCs would love to have had Orv and Al, but it was the CCLR or nothing for Orval. It's all so damned silly.

and if my deer camp votes to let women in, I'll find another camp.

I just want 4 nights a year in my "club"

"and if my deer camp votes to let women in, I'll find another camp."--mudturtle

Unless your hunting buds are making big-money corporate or public deals while playing in the woods, we aren't interested in fighting our way inside. In other words, it's the business deals that get made in these male-only clubs that women want access to...not the stinky hunting bodies or the drunken buddy -fest or the testosterone-fest.

Women also want their girlfriend time, mudturtle; we just don't want cut out of those smoke-filled rooms/golf games where so much business is conducted.

I could care less if women want in the men's club. If they want in the men's club, then I should be able to hang out in the showers at the Chi Omega/ Tri Delt houses at UA fayetteville. I think that is a fair trade. If a bunch of old women want to hear men fart and cuse, then I want to see their 19 year old granddaughters.

Anybody got a lawn chair and showers shoes that i can borrow.

and Zelda says, "Women also want their girlfriend time, mudturtle; we just don't want cut out of those smoke-filled rooms/golf games where so much business is conducted."

Jesus H. Christ, Zelda, and Max too for that matter: Do you people honestly believe "so much business is conducted in smoke-filled rooms and golf games"? Frick no. The only thing conducted in "smoke-filled rooms and golf games" is bridge or poker and the friggin' golf games. Do you honestly think handshakes are made in the middle of a bridge, gin rummy or poker game, or over a $3 Nassau on the golf course? Hell no it's not. Not a man I know would break his concentration on those pursuits to stop and say, "Hey Warren, nice course you've got here, too bad about that double-bogey on the last hole, that puts me 2 up, and by the way, we'll sign the papers and you'll own us by the time the week's up."
Does not happen, not one bit.
Now, does an invitation and a weekend stay to Augusta with Hootie, Billy Payne, Joe, Warren, Scott and all the other boys influence some business down the road between guest and Augusta member? Most probably. But I highly doubt anyone at Augusta or in the CCLR men's grill care to let in the women for the main obstensible reason of doing business and turning the place into a mover-shaker place anyway, and certainly the high-powered women in the corporate world know this anyway.
I can just see it now, first woman corporate big-shot joins Augusta, she's in foursome with Hootie and Billy Payne and her guest, and says, "Oh, Hoot, do you mind if we stop this fine round of golf so I can get some business done with my guest here."