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Brummett proposes a peace plan for the Democratic convention with speaking roles for Bill and Hillary Clinton.

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Brummett proposes a peace plan for the Democratic convention with speaking roles for Bill and Hillary Clinton.
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Oh John Boy who can trust a journalist, like yourself, whose opinions are based entirely on grudges?
One would think a man of your talent would realize that such silliness is for children -- Oh Mommie why did Bill get two cookies and I just one? Little childish wouldn't you say?
John if you can't admit your partisan grudges/hate how can you move on to that great journalistic potential of yours?
A southern christian would probably tell you that hell awaits but I want.
What a waste of talent!
Posted by: BWC
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June 29, 2008 08:13 AM
Do you really think that Obama and Clinton give a rat's ass about what blowhard Brummett says? In his own mind, he is the giant toad of punditry in Arkansas' political puddle. His recent battle with foppish Sanders is like watching a food fight in a mental ward, but a Heller less fun. Shirley, there's more insightful political commentary in the tattoos of the average 18 year old trolling downtown LR.
Why, Max, do you persist in featuring his inanities. Are you afraid of him? You could easily Sumo-wrestle him to the mat physically and mentally.
Posted by: YossarianMinderbinder
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June 29, 2008 08:27 AM
I haven't a clue what it would take to make the Clintons happy - in fact, I don't know how so many people seem to think they know the Clintons need to be appeased. I heard thoughtful pundits say that to sway HER supporters, SHE needed to be front and center during this unity stuff - NOT Bill - but other blathering fools crowed about his "still being angry". When Bill was in in London to celebrate Mandela's birthday, all the wags were calling that 'sulking'. Who cares? The Clintons have made their mark on history and nothing that happens now will change that - two term president - successful in the face of constant investigations, etc from the right - Senator from NY - more votes for a female nominee than for any nominee ever in the party history - etc. They will write books, make speeches - Chelsea will be successful - their life is good.
But for me and other voters like me who saw the smears against the Clintons as "racists" and the belittling and rude sexism on the part of the media which was condoned and even fed by Obama supporters as the dirtiest campaign season in my lifetime, a simple "I didn't realize the extent of the insult, and I am very sorry I didn't speak out much more forcefully", would help. Another apology would also be nice - one from Michelle Obama for saying she wasn't sure she would support Hillary Clinton if she were the nominee. Funny how they just ASSUMED Hillary would fall in line like a good Dem and support them, but their feelings are more tender and the fact they wouldn't have done the same in return was justified, after all.
I'm supporting Obama because between him and McCain, there is no choice. I'm shooting down the smears as often as I see them, not because I have a lot of respect for Obama, but simply because they are NOT TRUE - they are LIES. My son and dau-in-law have devised a handy response to all smear emails on Obama directing all to "check any and all political emails with sources such as Snopes and Fact Check BEFORE cluttering my inbox with lies and trash" and we use it liberally (pun intended). BUT, I could be much more enthusiastic and supportive if I were convinced this guy really understood how offensive his supporters are to people who are not racist, who liked him very much before the campaign and can like him again if they will learn how to reach out rather than take for granted, or worse, verbally slap around.
They don't have to do anything, of course, we will win regardless, but if they are concerned about unity in the party - they can heal those who are "willing to be healed" with a few simple words. He went a long way toward that in the town of Unity in their joint appearance for THIS Democrat. I would love to exchange emails with him just to say "don't you see???", but I'm not Scarlett Johansson and I don't have his email address.
Posted by: Ci.Ci
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June 29, 2008 08:38 AM
Well, whatever the road to Clinton/Obama love is...Brummett ain't the way. And, like you, Ci.Ci., I don't give a damn about appeasing the Clintons...or appeasing Obama...how about all of em start appeasing me (Democrats) by voting for or against the issues/beliefs that put them in office. Crazy, I know.
I'm so pissed about this 'retroactive immunity for law-breaking corporations' CRAP that none of em, Clinton or Obama, will get any more of my money. (Yes, I'm still voting for Obama.)
Posted by: zelda
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June 29, 2008 11:07 AM
I've been predicting Obama's nomination by acclaimation for a while. It's the only way for the party to present a facade of unity after the epic battle.
The trip to Denver will be a frustrating experience for the Clinton worshippers. They will be locked out from the important meetings and snubbed at the good parties.
Posted by: Arkansas Blogger
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June 29, 2008 11:11 AM
Actually, I think MISTER Brummett has seen enough and tracked enough people so that some of what he proposes is sensible and predictable. But I don't know if Mr Bill will be over his huffing and puffing about being a loser this time around. It's been a long time since he was a loser. He lost to Hammerschmidt in his first run for office. But, that was anticipated as the race was for introducing him to Arkansas, formally. Losing a big one really pisses him off. I mean, look at all he has done for Negroes since 1968, decades of redemption, and now one of them has beaten his wife, really bad. So his willingness to play out a script at Convention Denver is questionable, esp a script that gives BHO an air of genuineness. But then there was the Frank White interlude when Bill lost then had his first Come-to-Jesus moment, fessed up and went on to greater things. Perhaps Barack Hussien Obama is Bill's second come-to. Hillary's war support was Bill's Cuban fiasco. There's always a time and place for redemption. Peace bro.
Posted by: eLwood
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June 29, 2008 11:51 AM
A Blogger.. Just what info are you basing the following....
"The trip to Denver will be a frustrating experience for the Clinton worshippers. They will be locked out from the important meetings and snubbed at the good parties."
It's completely false... Obama is doing exactly what Clintons used to do, post primary... running to the right without looking back. Obama is hiring and consulting with countless old school Clintonites. The Clinton (especially the moneyed special interest element) supporters should be thrilled. Non DLC Blue Dog Democrats should be outraged.
Posted by: Eureka Springs, AR
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June 29, 2008 12:45 PM
Eureka - Yes, Obama is hiring old Clintonistas like Patti Solis-Doyle - (or Doyle-Solis.... whatever...) - who is now regarded as a traitor to Hillary.
Obama's people - with the backing of the party establishment - are in charge, and they will not tolerate any shenanigans by the Clintons. I expect that Obama will personally order Hillary to have Harold Ickes kept on a short leash during the convention.
Posted by: Arkansas Blogger
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June 29, 2008 01:25 PM
It's not the words, it's the tone that Mr. Brummett takes that sorta shoots down this piece on the Clintons. He admits upfront he can't get over it and there is the whole problem . Whenever someone treats Bill Clinton like he's a spoiled 2 year old, it sorta ends it for me right there. I've never voted for Bill Clinton in my life yet it's clear to me as President he did far more good than harm and that earns him a ton of respect....as evident by the respect he's shown all over the globe.
I generally hate contests, but I am a big believer in to the winner goes the spoils, so this is Obama's show, not Bill's or Hillary's and that is as it should be. Though I have quit hoping for it, I believe every move that's been made since Hillary conceded says she will be the next VP. I can't think of another person more suited to the job though I like Jim Webb and a few others. But they don't bring to the table what Hillary Clinton brings to the table. And since I think there is a 50/50 chance that Obama will be dead before the election or before he has a chance to do much as President, it is very very very important who he chooses as his running mate. This November we could very well be electing the next 2 Presidents of the United States.
Having recently read the excellent excerpt from a new book on the life of RFK in last month's Vanity Fair, it made me even more uneasy about Obama's chances to survive the next 5 to 9 years. 40 years later, it sure looks like we're heading for a repeat....the same dark forces who will not be denied are hard at work in America. I wish Obama would go run his entire campaign from Bush's hidey hole in Nebraska! The very very last thing we need is for him to be killed. Rave on....you say...but I am very scared that I'm right about his chances....and of course how wonderful to think such bad things about my country....but check our history and you'll be scared too.
I'll take President Jim Webb....but I'd rather have Hillary taking the oath of office aboard Air Force 1 at Love Field in Dallas, not cause I love her, but cause she makes me feel safer. Oh, I understand how it's a lot easier to think about Bill throwing a hissy fit than it is contemplating the assassination of Barack Obama, but this ain't junior high and you damn well better be prepared for the worst, because the worst is out there attempting to happen as I type.
In 1968 we were at war for the soul of America. 40 years later we're at it again. What takes place between now and January 20th, 2009 will not be the stuff of Soiree' magazine, so take off your party clothes and put on a helmet. Christmas is coming but we have to survive a special Republican edition of Halloween this year. If you think Bill Clinton's acting ugly......you ain't seen nothing yet. Get mad! Be serious! Be loud! Bad bad stuff is on the way!
Posted by: Deathbyinches
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June 29, 2008 01:27 PM
I never thot of this before but what would happen if Obama were to be killed, heaven
forbid, between the convention and Nov. 4th????
Posted by: jazzy
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June 29, 2008 02:24 PM
It's not what the candidates say to get elected that should concern you. It's what you hope and think they'll do after getting into office that decides your choice. The American election process is a game with just a few rules but the key one is that you must appeal to the center voters in order to win. Although it's open to discussion I think the other main rules involve handling the negatives, winning the debates, win the key electoral states, and have a helluva campaign team.
I'm really not sure issues are the keys to victory. It's less about substance and more about style.
Posted by: Jake da Snake
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June 29, 2008 02:36 PM
I never thot of this before but what would happen if Obama were to be killed, heaven
forbid, between the convention and Nov. 4th???? <<<
jazzy
jazzy, my money would be on McCain not finishing the race. He has some heavy duty astro influences in store for him. If that were the scenario there would be a major upset. I must say I do not know the succession rules for presidential nominees.
Cato, help us out. Anybody?
My guess is that if the issue of nominee succession is not a settled matter within the R party and McCain doesn't make it thru the election then Huckabee would be claiming he is rightful nominee by way of coming in second in the race. That should be some interesting fireworks which I would not be surprised to see.
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Posted by: eLwood
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June 29, 2008 04:42 PM
>>The trip to Denver will be a frustrating experience for the Clinton worshippers. They will be locked out from the important meetings and snubbed at the good parties. <<
Two points: (1) I know there are some, but I don't know any - and if they "worship" any politician they are fools. (2) If the Obama supporters continue to treat anyone with the disdain they presently show for Hillary supporters, they will destroy this man they think is so great. He can't continue with the "bad winner" antics. People make allowances for sore losers (and there are VERY few of those around) but not bad winners, and they are EVERYWHERE. He seems to be smarter than his jerk gang, but he needs to put a muzzle on them fast.
Posted by: Ci.Ci
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June 29, 2008 04:48 PM
eLwood,
The trick is what to do AFTER a candidate has been selected at the convention. Beforehand is no problem (remember 1968 & Bobby Kennedy?). Pesumptive is still not official.
There are no rules currently in place that I can find regarding how to handle the death of your party's presidential nominee. However, I did read a short article written in 2000 on the topic and it made some good points. First (if there is enough time), the party affected will probably hold a special convention to select and approve the new choice. Two logical choices are available: the runner-up candidate with the second highest vote tally at the time of the original convention or the vice-presidential nominee, if already selected. The former seems the more likely.
Also, there is nothing in the Constitution that mandates Presidential elections being held on the first Tuesday in November. Congress can vote to delay the elections and give the new candidate time to run competitively for the office. Likewise, the other party and its candidate might not want to change the election date because it would cost them the huge advantage they probably would have in having to face a "second-tier" candidate.
Lots of ifs, ands, maybes with this scenario. The main thing is that there are currently no rules to go by. Hell, even Brummett could provide a solution and it might be accepted.
Posted by: Jake da Snake
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June 29, 2008 05:07 PM
Jake, if my language is uncertain then I'm asking what if a duly nominated presidential nominee is unable to complete the election? Who will fill the nominee's shoes? It's not covered in the U.S. Constitution nor is it mentioned in Constitutional Amendment no. 25.
I've searched this issue before on the web and I cannot find an answer. Presently I hopefully have a query into John Dean (of Nixon fame) via a W.Coast friend who maintains contact with him. I also have the query out to several attorneys.
Posted by: eLwood
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June 29, 2008 05:23 PM
Jake, I meant after he is given the blessing of being the nominee, thats why I said
between the convention and Nov. 4......I suppose the VP pick would be next in line.....
just some food for thought.....on the other hand, Hillary came in second....
like you said, lots of ifs, ands and buts.
Posted by: jazzy
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June 29, 2008 05:29 PM
The Democratic National Committee is responsible for filling vacancies in nominations for the office of President and Vice President.
Posted by: Arkansas Blogger
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June 29, 2008 06:05 PM
Thanks ArkBlogger! I just glanced at eLwood's piece and immediately started searching so I apologize for not getting the details. The question intriqued me immediately.
Is there any more info about changing the dates of the election?
Posted by: Jake da Snake
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June 29, 2008 06:09 PM
As far as I know, Congress could set a different date for the election. But instead, I think the Electoral College would just select a new president.
Posted by: Arkansas Blogger
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June 30, 2008 12:05 AM