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Why did i read that? I knew it would just piss me off. Krauthmmer should be tumped out of his chair and kicked. I promised myself years ago I wouldn't read that saber rattling sob. I had a streak going. damn.

As if politics isn't bad enough we have to mix in religion with all it's baggage of loose screws and Pseudo science's

Loose screw: George Bush said that he doesn't support stem cell research and family planning because he didn't believe in spending tax dollars on the destruction of human life. One wonders then why he would spend so much on the 4000+ mothers babies he had killed in the frivolous war in Iraq.

I seem to recall a 60 minutes interview with Antonin Gregory Scalia, courts most ardent anti-normal hater, where he stated unequivocally that human life/citizenship begins at birth not conception. Perhaps someone could verify exactly what he said.

The past 2 elections have proven we as Americans all lose when we foster this relationship between Religion and Politics.

I would say that it is both bad politics and bad religion but in fact it is just the opposite by today's standards. It does lead to bad governance and a real challenge for people of faith, both exercises in effective communication and achievement.

When you can get people to vote against their own best interests and cloud the major issues of the day with virtual nonsense you are on the verge of evil and the lower levels of human nature. These are exactly the forces that government and religion were designed to address. Today they are losing the battle.

Religion and politics should have no public face connection. It always causes problems because we have so many religious groups who all believe they are the only one and we cannot win - not ever - when we try to be a "Christian nation" rather than a nation of "religious freedom". I don't even like the meetings that McC and BO have with evangelicals and others - that are formalized. Should a religious leader have an opportunity to sit down with a politician - yes, but not any more than I have - the religious part should not open any doors.

As for the influence over 'evangelicals' - I don't know who the Slate writer is interviewing, because I don't know a single evangelical who has mellowed on the subject of BO beyond the acceptance of the fact that there is a steamroller moving and they are powerless to stop it. They hate him just as much as they did last winter and see him as just as 'dangerous' as they ever did, they just see him as inevitable now. What Slate is implying - that they are somehow feeling less threatened by BO is just not what I see anywhere. BO always had and always will have support from more moderate or liberal churches, so that isn't new.

I, too, despise Krauthammer, but he is correct that BO is a politician and has huge support in the media which means little or no scrutiny when he reverses himself on FISA, campaign finance, guns, the death penalty, etc. I think some ultra progressives are setting themselves up for disappointment when BO turns out to be more Clinton than Reagan as pointed out by Krugman in today's NYT.

Excuse me but who knows when life began? I do. You should know too so I am going to tell you.
It began with God! Without God there'd is no life!
So the fact that life began, as some think, when God breathed life into the dirt he called Adam and it is still going on today... life is linked by living seeds, you know the rest.

The idiots took God out of schools can't take God out of politics.

Chasv, if your god can be taken out of schools or into politics by his creatures, your god is too small.

Snapback
Chasv, if your god can be taken out of schools or into politics by his creatures, your god is too small.

Well Said! Ditto!

Snapback
Chasv, if your god can be taken out of schools or into politics by his creatures, your god is too small.

Well Said! Ditto!

Democracy, like God, believes in freewill.

Abortion is the issue that drives this train. The republicans have made hay with the issue for 40 years without doing a thing but including it in their platform. It is the issue that turned America back to the right. And, it is far from clear cut. On the other hand, we pay unwed mothers for each baby they produce. So maybe the government is somewhat even handed.

I guess that is the hitch though. Chasv thinks that his beliefs require him to not just live them but see that everyone else is saved as well. God may believe in freewill but Chasv believes his ideals should be law. Chasv is right at so many levels, except this one.

Religious Views I Respect

We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his children smart.

For centuries, theologians have been explaining the unknowable in terms of the-not-worth-knowing.

H.L. Mencken
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Biblical Marriage Principles for constitutional amendment!

As certain politicians work diligently to prevent marriage between two people of the same sex, others of us have been busy drafting a Constitutional Amendment codifying all marriages entirely on Biblical principles. After all, God wouldn't want us to "pick and choose" which of the Scriptures we elevate to civil law and which we choose to ignore:

Draft of a Constitutional Amendment to Defend Biblical Marriage:

* Marriage in the United States of America shall consist of a union
between one man and one or more women. Gen 29:17-28; II Sam 3:2-5.)

* Marriage shall not impede a man's right to take concubines in addition to his wife or wives. (II Sam 5:13; I Kings 11:3; II Chron
11:21)

* A marriage shall be considered valid only if the wife is a virgin. If the wife is not a virgin, she shall be executed. Deut 22:13-21)

* Marriage of a believer and a non-believer shall be forbidden.(Gen
24:3; Num 25:1-9; Ezra 9:12; Neh 10:30, 2Cor 6:14)

* Since marriage is for life, neither the US Constitution nor any state law shall permit divorce. (Deut 22:19; Mark 10:9-12)

* If a married man dies without children, his brother must marry the widow.If the brother refuses to marry the widow, or deliberately does not give her children, he shall pay a fine of one shoe and be otherwise punished in a manner to be determined by law. (Gen. 38:6-10; Deut 25:5-10)

* In lieu of marriage (if there are no acceptable men to be found), a woman shall get her father drunk and have sex with him.(Gen 19:31-36)

I hope this helps to clarify the finer details of the Government
righteous struggle against the infidels and heathens among us.

Paul R. Ehrlich
Bing Professor of Population Studies

President, Center for Conservation Biology
Department of Biological Sciences
Stanford University, Stanford, CA 94305-5020
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My Response To A Letter Writer About An Article I Wrote,

Worst of all you assume I'm anti- Jesus when actually I'm such a Jesus Freak , I whole-heartedly endorse his abhorrence with organized religion of all kinds. I most strongly urge you to read Matthew, Chapters 6 and 7 to view for yourself Jesus' condemnation of religion that worships materialism,ritual, hypocrisy, etc. Jesus surely must be repulsed by the mockery Paul made of his preachments : Paul's blasphemy unfortunately dominates so-called Christianity as has been true since Jesus' own brother James was banished from the early Christian movement. The Christian church is actually the Paulinian Church which amounts to the Anti- Christ Church! My deepest sympathy is extended to anybody who is so blind that they cannot and/or will not see a fair reading of the seven autheticated letters of Paul (remember six of the epistles were NOT written by Paul) are 180 degrees removed from Jesus' Teachings. Paul as contrasted with Jesus was anti-joy, anti-celebration of life and living. anti-sensuality, anti-women, anti-sexuality, anti-marriage, anti-family, anti-children, anti- jesus as son of man;not son of God. Where Jesus preached conpassion, Paul preaches judgemental hypocrisy; where Jesus preached unlimited forgiveness and inclusivity, Paul focusses on sin and exclusivity. As I've said so often before ." If Religion melts your butter, I choose to live my life without such garnishments." Take Care. Roy

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When you can get people to vote against their own best interests and cloud the major issues of the day with virtual nonsense you are on the verge of evil and the lower levels of human nature. These are exactly the forces that government and religion were designed to address. Today they are losing the battle.

Posted by: Fletch

People that vote against their interests pray against their own interests.

BWC, not just 4k American dead nor the tens of thousands wounded... but the millions of dead, many millions more wounded and many many millions more homeless Iraqis and Afghanis. None of whom ever threatened us! Any religious person praying or voting for that, or simply staying silent in tacit approval.. is no kind of religion worthy of anything but scorn, ridicule and contempt.

Roym, I must remind you that Jesus told his Apostles that WHAT SO EVER YOU BIND ON EARTH WILL BE BOUND IN HEAVEN and what so ever you loose on earth will be loose in heaven. How does that grab you?
They will be judges.
Buddy, They are going to judge you and me and everyone else.
Paul has a crown; what will you have?

I'll have a rum and Coke!

Now...what was the question? Oh, do I want a President who has a relaxed view on religion or an uptight crazy Christian...like uh...who....McCain? McCain is as religious as a door knob. He'll fake a little when around people like the good and dead Jerry Falwell or someone like that, but the rest of the time he thinks about God about as often as I do.

Which really ought to make me a McCain fan! Cause what I'd really like is someone in the White House with zero imaginary friends. An atheist President would be the best thing to ever happen to the US of A. With no imaginary friends to talk to, no hocus-pocus to hide behind, an atheist President could just get down to work and solve all the nation's problems. He or she could give speeches about what ails us and not waste our time talking babble about ghosts and cartoon characters.

When Atheist President got his ass in a jam, he'd call on really intelligent humans for advice. Atheist President wouldn't have anything to hide behind. Atheist President wouldn't send young men and women into fake wars by telling them God's on our side! We can't lose! Bullets won't hurt you. But Atheist President would be screwed if he ever bothered to attend funerals for fallen troops.

He wouldn't be able to snow the grieving parents by telling them that their kids were sitting up in Mumbo Jumbo Land with Jesus...all their hamburger meat parts miraculously sewed back together so they look human again. Atheist President would just have to buck up and say....sorry folks, yer kid is dead and we shoveled as much of him as we could find into that flag draped coffin.

Atheist President could work on Sunday mornings. He could work while the Pope was in town. He could smoke and drink and download porn. His wife could have a modern hair-do and wear dresses that show some cleavage. Her or she could be a regular guy.....whew....wouldn't that feel great!

Man....I should be for McCain cause it's obvious he don't know God from gravy. But I just can't vote for such a lying old meany. His voting record is even to the right of Mark W. Pryor's. Cain't have that! So I guess I'll vote for Obama and keep hoping that maybe in 2012 or 2016 America will have its first atheist President and then we can sure enough step into the 21st century and finally let the 12th century die.

"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.

"Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.

"Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?

"Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?"

Epicurus - 341-270 BC

God, God, God, God be ! Boring! Boring! Boring!

Whose God? Close to 5,000 world religions and each have their own God so which one should we follow?

There's never been and probably never will be proof that there is a God at least he never seems to make himself/herself available for there's no proof he's ever spoke to or answered anyone's prayer.

There I said. Best Regards to one and all from God!

"Religion" does not lend to "mixing" with anything; it is monolithic and SHOULD be personally so. If you'd like to prove that the overwhelming majority of "us" are complete, unaccountable Morons, try driving the speed limit on ANY street/road/highway/Interstate!! You'll quickly begin to notice what it was like having long hair (male) in the 60's/early 70's and THEN check out the percentage of arrogant "fish" adornments on those vehicles passing/dissing you...
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You "politico-evangelicals" boys and girls, run out there and vote for Bob Barr, instead of McCain! McCain is not 'religious' enough for you.
Do for Obama what Nader did for Bush 2

"According to an affidavit filed by Barr's second wife Gail Barr, Bob Barr paid for and did not object to her having an abortion in 1983. This is rather amusing for two reasons: first of all, Barr was a member of the pro-life caucus. The fact that Barr did not discourage her from having an abortion is rather interesting in light of his strong pro-life stance. Second of all, Barr, in divorce court in 1986, stated that he did object to the abortion. Gail Barr's affidavit, if true, proves that he committed perjury in divorce court. Barr, however, considered Clinton's "sin" of lying about where and when he touched Ms. Lewinsky to be an impeachable offense. He, himself, did not resign as he claims all the charges against him were false.

Bob has been divorced twice, failed to pay child support to the children of his first two wives and while married to his third wife was photographed licking whipped cream off of a few chesty strippers at his inaugural party.. this guy is deciding that a whole segment of the population is less moral than him and is unfit to claim marriage benefits? "

It seems strange to me that so many people who don't believe in God profess to know so much about Him.

It strikes me as presumptuous for one to construct a box then declare that there is no God because He won't climb into it.

If you challenge, "You can't prove there is a God," please tell me what you would accept as evidence.

There is a book filled with testimony about relationships which various people had with Him over a period of hundreds of years, but the non-believer blithely dismisses it.

Several passages in the New Testament contain testimony of people who reportedly walked with the historical Jesus, and who talked with him after his reported crucifixion and resurrection, but their testimony is dismissed.

What would constitute proof for you? Are you demanding that God appear in a test tube or under a microscope before you'll believe in Him?

It seems the height of arrogance for one to posit, "I am the supreme being; there is no one and no thing superior to me. If God exists, I demand that he manifest himself according to the conditions I prescribe. Ane if he doesn't manifest himself in the way I presecribe, then he doesn't exist." But of course, if He did manifest Himself, then he would not be superior to the one who demanded His manifestation.

I would suggest that the problem is not that God can't manifest Himself in the instruments you require but that you haven't been able to construct the instruments capable of detecting God.

Magnetism existed for centuries before man created instruments capable of detecting it.

Humans are incapable of detecting the sounds that surround them without the proper instruments: radios.

But the best radio doesn't detect light rays. Wrong instrument to detect that form of energy.

So men set up their instruments and proclaim, "God does not exist because we can't capture him with our instruments."

And man sets up the conditions that God is required to meet in order to prove Himself to someone who doesn't believe in Him in the first place.

Apparently Epicurus fell into this same ego trap. He set up questions, provided the answers he wanted, then drew the inferences he preferred to establish his desired conclusion.

But I've noticed that there a lot more people who believe in God than who believe in Epicurus.

But but spring....if there is a God...why does he play this silly game of hiding for thousands of years. His or her one man Andy Kaufman act is boring. Inventing a game where yer son is nailed to a cross is criminal. Demanding all kinds of crap from people who didn't ask to be born is cruel.

If this whole God thing was a movie script......no one would make it and he'd never work in Hollywood again. Life is too short for silly games or trusting unseen imaginary friends. By all means believe as you please and enjoy it, but it's all just a lot too hard to swallow. And why is religion like smoking pot.....not fun unless you get other people to do it with you? Too strange!

My gosh don't people see how these Republicans take religion-oriented issues and make it the standing point of their campaign and poise themselves to look like saviors of morals at election time. When Bush was running the second time he was on the soapbox screaming he would prevent gay-marriage if re-elected and the holy-rollers went in droves to re-elect him despite they were wary and against his policies with the Iraq war. Okay gay-marriage is going on and Bush doesn't bat an eye or waste a sweat worrying about it. Past republican did the same thing getting elected on moral issues, especially the abortion issue and yet abortion is still going on and is forgotten about once the election is over.
The Republicans are hypocritical about why they don't want abortion due to their allowing it if the mother was raped. A baby made from rape is just like any other baby and it is still taking an innocent baby's life which I thought was the goal of the anti-abortionist. The baby of rape is just as innocent as any other baby and has nothing to do with the rape that made it. I know a little girl made from rape and she is just as sweet as she can be and so normal and has no idea she was made from rape. The subtle hypocrisy here is that the Republicans are saying if the mother said "no" to sex then she can kill the baby. But if the mother said "yes" to sex then she has to bear the consequences of her agreed-to sex experience. This is more about punishing the mother for agreeing to sex than about saving the life of a baby.
During my lifetime then it has proved to me that whore-mongrels make the best presidents as like Clinton, Kennedy, Eisenhower, and Roosevelt who all had mistresses but were outstanding presidents. Holy-rollers like Carter and Bush were the worse presidents.
Moral of this story is that thin-heads should run churches. Wide-ranged thinkers should run the country.

But, but, Death: You wouldn't stack the deck in your favor would you?

". . . play silly game": God is "playing a silly game" just because you say so? You have appointed yourself the judge of the game?

". . . hiding for thousands of years": You've been around for thousands of years and know that God is hiding? Because you haven't been able to find Him?

"His . . . act is boring": "Boring" is an emotional, evaluative response of a human being to a stimulus; it is not an intrinsic, objective element ingredient, or quality of any form of existence. "Boring" cannot be objectively identified. "It is boring because I said it is."

"A game . . . is criminal": "It is criminal because I labeled it such." "I am the labeler." (Sounds kinda like, "I am the decider.")

"Demanding . . . who didn't ask to be born is cruel": "It is cruel because I labeled it such." Did you ask to be born? Did your parents, other authority figures, or simply "laws" ever demand anything of you that you didn't like? Was that cruel? Did you ever have a child? Did that child ask to be born? Did you ever demand anything of it? How cruel!!! Maybe the ultimate cruelty, or at least the initial cruelty, is that we bring children into existence in the first place--against their will. Then we expect them to stay here until they have to leave--without their permission.

So Deathbyinches is the final arbiter of the universe. Deathbyinches is the measurer of all things and his value system is the one by which all things are measured.

If the universe doesn't operate by Deathbyinches' values and standards then it is wrong--cruel even.

I don't think so, Tim.

dbi sometimes I don't know what to say about your ignorance of God.
As the heavens are higher than the earth so are God's ways higher than our ways! We are nothing but God is everything.
To answer one blogger, God only comes to those who are searching for him. Search and he will find you. You will never be the same when he finds you. You'll either be saved by his grace or if you deny him you could be lost for all eternity. Believe it, there is a hell where unbelievers go after they die for all eternity... Man that is a long long long long time to burn.
Try Him,, he invites all to try him and see if he is all that he is... our God, Jesus, and Creator who loves us.
Dbi, you and Jake are so stupid and it hard to comprehend how people are that stupid. You see God everyday in the things he created and you still are blinded by your unblief. You are your own worst enemy.
I have seen and heard him and I have seen angels so it's not hard at all for me to beleive in him....
There is one word that describes what God want of us. That is FAITH. If you saw Him you would need faith to believe he is the I am that I am.
YOU and all mankind must come to him by Faith because that is the only way to please HIM!
NOW, DO YOU have an idea what faith is? Get it now and wisdom.

spring, typing is a willful act I am willing to do in hopes of changing a mind now and then. You have made a world of no decisions where the act of reaching for a piece of bread has some extra consequences besides the satisfaction of yer hunger. I say bread.....eat it! You say bread....better left alone for reasons you might learn at a later date in another world. If this works for you....run with it, but it doesn't work for me.

God set his son up to be tortured and killed to fulfill the requirements of his silly game. How many lethal injections would I get if I did the same thing? I don't enjoy sick and twisted and I don't inflict it on any other living thing. So sue me!

chasv, I tried Christ, he tried me, we didn't get along. I had a gray suit that never worked out either.....life is like that. If you 2 are happy, I'm happy for you, but you'll never drag me to yer party.

DBI: There are many different views of God. They can't all be right. Maybe mine is one of those. Who knows?

But for one who doesn't believe in God, how do you come to the conclusion that this God who does not exist set up His Son to be tortured and killed? It seems to me that the record accepted by the believers indicates that the Son was in on the plan "from before the foundation of the world." That makes Him a willing participant, not a helpless victim. If a son volunteers for military duty and is killed as a consequence, does that mean his parents set him up to die? We don't give parents lethal injections for that. We don't even give POTUS lethal injections for that.

As for dragging you to the party (I know that was directed at chasv and not me, but it's the same party), I would never drag you to the party. I'll invite you, of course, but not drag you. If you don't care to come to the party, you're under no obligation.

And that's one of the beautiful things about God as I understand Him: He doesn't drag anyone to His party. He invites all and welcomes all who respond to the invitation. But those who decline the invitation are not compelled to attend. In fact, He has a place for those who do not want to be in His presence--a place where He is not; His final act of love and respect for everyone's free will. I can't imagine anything fairer than that!

And if you tried Christ and found Him not to your liking, then I'd say you've been as fair with God as God has been with you.

But don't fault God for what He did just because it was not to your liking.

I think the institution of marriage is wonderful! And I've had an enjoyable and fulfilling relationship with it for nearly sixty years. But not everyone has. So not everyone has as high an opinion of marriage as I. And those who have not had a satisfying and fulfilling relationship with it are welcome to their feelings and opinions--in a free society. But don't denigrate the institution just because your relationship with it didn't turn out to be what you expected it to be! It's not the fault of the institution if your experience turned sour.

God didn't force your likes and dislikes upon you; those are of your own choosing. Nor did He force your choices upon you; those are of your own volition. You are always free to choose.

May it ever be thus!