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Though I live with people like her, I'm still amazed that somewhere in the backs of their minds, they don't KNOW that they are dead wrong and that almost no one agrees with them!!

"Inappropriate passive/aggressive" sexual attention - that should be a hoot to every man or woman I know. Women oggle abs and cute butts of guys and we all know men have a hard time looking a woman in the eye cause they eyes won't go up that far - so I guess we are to assume that's TOTALLY different from a person who happens to be gay, is keeping that to themselves, but notices your ass??

That old gal, if she suffers the fate I think she should, will someday hope someone, anyone, will pay some passive/aggressive sexual attention to her sorry behind.

The lesbians I know are smart and tough, and they're used to overcoming long odds. I think Snyder's All-Lesbian Army idea is a great one.

A perfect example of the many reasons I LOVE free speech!

It's amazing how many otherwise rational so-called Christian folk go hate-filled bonkers over homosexuality. You'd think they lived in terror of gayness overcoming them...that if they relax for one second they'll be rolling around with their own gender. There's a lot more going on than archaic religious taboos.

Yes, Ci.Ci, I've always found it poetically entertaining that so many so-called heterosexual guys are so terrified of including homosexuals in their male clubs. They've been running around forever trying to screw every woman within arms' reach, but going to battle, sleeping next to a guy who likes guys...terrifies em. Personally, I'd like every hetero guy to experience some sexual ogling. Might make em think the next time they hoot/holler when a woman walks by a construction sight...nah.

If she's so concerned about rape, what's she doing to push the military to address the rape of female soldiers by their male counterparts now? I'd think the current problem would be more of a concern than some imagined issue later. But then, I'm getting caught in the trap of logic, which Ms. Milbanks obviously isn't.

You queers have the biggest imagination of all people.. Your minds are what makes you queers say the stupid things you do.
Go down to the cesspool and see your offspring floating around in the dung.
The imagination of your heart are evil continually.
You'll die before your time too because you are so dirty filthy and diseased.

It would almost be worth it to move to Little Rock, just so I could vote for Vic in the next election.

Almost.

"introducing erotic factors"

Damn.....that's what's missing from my life! It's wonderful to see a female chasv put in her place and shown to the world for the dinosaur hater she is. I personally hate hate hate hate that American women are in combat. If this old gal had a brain she'd be worrying about all the raping going on. The number of female US troops reporting rapes by their fellow troops is staggering. Plus, if we were seeing pictures, which we aren't, it would be more upsetting to see a female soldier blown to bits. At least I realize I may be a dinosaur myself for not wanting women in combat. But rape and being blown apart is far worse and more common in Iraq than a lesbian blowing ya a kiss. Oh to have been born in 1855!

Chasv, I always knew you were a wacko, but I'm surprised at the amount of hate, venom, and the uglist debauchery I've ever witnessed on the mind of something alive. Your sickess and the evil that hurls from you are frightening. You need help, Chas. You need help!

The fact of the matter is that we need well behaved gays/lesbians in the military. Certainly any military person should be dismissed for aggressive or threatening sexual behavior, however, there are many highly skilled gays who should be allowed to serve, particularly those who are able to translate.

I also see no reason to shield gays/lesbians from the dangerous front line jobs. If they are willing to risk their lives and die for their country, they should not be sent away.

"You'll die before your time too because you are so dirty filthy and diseased." -posted by: chasv
Well, I've heard that the cowards die may times before their death. Obviously you're terrified of gays. Your paranoid fear makes me smile. :-)

Chasv...I'm always surprised by the level of fear/hatred that some of you so-called Christian people display toward others. It's ungodly. It's ugly...makes my skin crawl more than any terrorist could. Even if what you say is true (that certain consensual sex acts between adults are sins), that just makes homosexuals like everybody else: flawed humans. (Of course, it's utter nonsense to think the mere creation of a human is a sin.)

"The fact of the matter is that we need well behaved gays/lesbians in the military. Certainly any military person should be dismissed for aggressive or threatening sexual behavior, however, there are many highly skilled gays who should be allowed to serve, particularly those who are able to translate..."--severus

Amen. Qualifications for the job should be the determiner...not legal, away-from-work behavior.

Well...determiners.

Dana Milbank, of course, is a columnist and has wide latitude in showing the idiocy and hatefulness of Elaine Donnelly. Seeing as how we've debated Ron Fournier's ideas over at The Associated Press, here's how Donnelly's screed was portrayed, in its entirety, in the straight-news (no pun intended) coverage at the L.A. Times:

**During Wednesday's hearing, Elaine Donnelly, president of the Center for Military Readiness, which opposes repeal of the policy, said that allowing gays to serve openly would drive away more individuals who don't want to serve with gays than the number of service members discharged under "don't ask, don't tell."

A repeal "would impose new, unneeded burdens of sexual tension on men and women serving in high-pressure working conditions, far from home, that are unlike any occupation in the civilian world," she said.**

Of the AP "straight" coverage I found, none mentioned Donnelly at all.

If there ever was a Jesus and if he/she was alive today, Jesus would wash chasv's mouth out with soap and water.

Re Donnelly- somebody on the subcommittee should have asked Donnelly about her own military service- where, when and with whom did she serve. What's that, Miss Donnelly? You didn't serve like so many other brave men and women, straight and gay alike? Well, let's take some testimony from someone who has got at least one patriotic bone in their body.

During my four years active duty in the military I don't remember a single instance where sexuality was even remotely related to whatever was going on. Homophobia is for people who love to hate.

While there is no question they reserve their most vile fear/hatred for gays, let's not lose track of their abhorrence of ALL "matters" relative to sexuality - AND when combined result in belly-laughs all around. Last night at dinner I heard one that is a "topper:" the mother of my good friend's 17 year old step-grandson recently gave up custody of her son, primarily because he had become a "depraved sex maniac" - her words. The proof? She discovered 2 Playboy magazines in his possession!! She went nuts, and actually found a "christian" (of course!) Psychiatrist who was willing to "treat" this young man. When "treatment failed," she shipped him off to his father, who reports he is doing pretty well in his new surroundings (CA vs. TX) although "socially he is equivalent to a 13 year-old" due to the stifling environment around his mother and her new (also whacked) hubby. His FIRST act once liberated: watching the Harry Potter movies previously forbidden to him...Harry Potter!!!!

My favorite local one occurred around 1995, when the school superintendent at Greenbrier canceled an HIV/AIDS program that had been set up with the middle- and high-school principals (because we included - GASP - homosexuals! in the program), famously stating as his "rationale" In Greenbrier when we breed the hogs we send the women to the house!" (I know, I posted this once before)

MAY be topped by the husband of an acquaintance, who's favorite actor is Tom Hanks. When he refused to see "Philadelphia" he said "He plays a queer; I'd never be able to watch another Tom Hanks movie." Hoo Boy...

And these folks procreate - THAT is a way bigger problem than gays......in the military or wherever!
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The groups noisiest about their heterosexuality are invariably all-male enclaves where the brotherly bonds are so strong that the men in the enclaves spend far more time interacting with each other than "their" women.

As to the sincerity of Elaine Donnelly's beliefs: I don't give her much credit on that score. I believe she's one among many agents playing a cynical political game with the lives of gay human beings, and knowing full well what she is doing. This issue has worked very well for the Republicans in the past. Unfortunately, word hasn't yet reached many of those producing right-wing soundbites, that the issue is not working as well as it used to, now that people have real concerns like feeding their family and paying their house mortgages to contend with.

The American right is not skillful at producing new ideas. It can only replicate its tried and true tactics, in the hope that they will work one more time. Donnelly is stuck in replication mode and can only become more and more furious, as the culture bypasses her and the alarm bells she sounds don't get folks scrambling.

Kudos to Vic Snyder for intelligence, guts, and integrity. At least we have one bona fide Arkansas Democrat in Congress.

I caught a portion of the hearing replay on cspan late last night... Snyder was terrific!

That woman, was definitely a "Mrs Chasv".. aside from that she was extremely rude and desperate much of the time.

I guess the one good thing about these needless wars and occupations... global killing of innocents spree we are on. Is that with short supply of troops and private contractors... The folks who want to kill by the millions now realize they will have to employ willing homosexuals to help them do it... Funny how one form of hatred trumps the other.

The Frontlines, servicemembers legal network took on the "hair & nail salon buddy, Elaine Donnelly"
back in December:

"Elaine has been a busy girl, what with trying to make sense of Sunday's 60 Minutes story and trying to find a presidential candidate far enough out of step with reality that she can throw her support behind them.

"First, Elaine was thoroughly confused by the premise behind Sunday's 60 Minutes report, from Lesley Stahl, about the increasing number of gays serving openly and the public outrage at the continued dismissal of gay personnel. Our girl in Michigan just could not wrap her mind around the idea that, while some commanders are appreciating the service of their gay troops, the continued dismissal of 2 service members each day is still unacceptable.

"But I digress. Elaine has other problems, too. She's having trouble finding a presidential contender far enough to the right to get behind.

"Writing on a right-wing blog today, Elaine bemoans the fact that so many of the presidential contenders won't commit to returning to a policy of "asking" about sexual orientation in the armed forces.

"Mike Huckabee, she notes, said earlier this year that (gasp!) "I'm not sure that being homosexual should automatically disqualify a person from the military. If a person can do his or her job, you know that's not for me the biggest issue." Scratch him off her Christmas card list
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Dammit, see what you people have done. You poked chasv and woke him up. For shame.

chasv is ringer...can't be a real person....must be the work of some very talented comic. Probably just posts on here to get the rest of you riled up.

But back to the other issue...This Dana Milbanks is probably just trying to stir up votes. Very seriously doubt she believes what she wrote. This woman is surrounded by gays and lesbians every day in Washington. She works side by side with them. Surely she must know that.

People, Dana is a guy.
He's the columnist who took the raving lunatic to task.

No, I assure you, Chasv is a real person.

I know him quite well. He lives in my community and agitates everyone and everything he can possibly stir up. He was even voted out of his church at one time (a Missionary Baptist Church) for causing dissent among the brethren....he would shout out and yell at the pastor during sermons, he would denigrate anyone who had a difference of opinion, etc. They finally allowed him to crawl back and beg for forgiveness and allowed him to rejoin the fellowhip. However, nothing about him is any different except that he no longer interrupts the worship service.

No one will ever change him. He is a true Neanderthal. He just need our prayers and cat-o-nine tail lashing to his netherside.

>>chasv is ringer...can't be a real person..<<

Scottie, another of our regular posters is from down Crosset, AR way and assures

us that charleneV is

indeed real and a bit 'touched.'

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I don't usually swing this way, but after that performance . . . damn, Vic Snyder is sexy.

As for Mrs. Donnelly and Chasv . . . there's probaby nothing wrong with them that couldn't be cured with an appliance from the backroom at Cupid's. Something you have to kickstart.

Old blue,, that preacher, which I don't think was a God called preacher, who told all those lies that you believed on me, was finally caught up with and he was run off in disgrace. I had nothing to do with him getting run off, either. A man that will lie to you will steal from you, I heard another preacher say, and he did steal over ten thousand dollars from the Baptist Association.
Call me old blue eye I will tell you who and why that happened. Some don't want to know the truth.
God is good and you should repent of your sins and be born again.
I appreciated the opportunity to straighten you out on that,, Ask Buddy Morris is you want to know the truth from someone who knows.
I do not hate queers but I do hate what they do. Their imagination is are evil continually...
Old blue eye are you a homo? a queer, i.e.. ?

I have to say that a lesbian army sounds pretty hot...

If from what I say makes you think I am a hater; you should hear what God says about them and he loves them...
God said we'll reap what we sow...... be careful what you sow and make sure its not up some ones rear end...
You people are the sick O's.

I especially like Brian Jones's testimony about how the gays will undermine "selfless service" by bring "esprit decor" into the military.

Now that I know I can bring my decorating talents along with me, I'm one queer who's seriously considering service. So many drab barracks waiting for moire silk appointments, so little time . . . .

Acts 10:28

He said to them, "You know better than most that a Jew is strictly forbidden to associate with a Gentile or visit him; but God has taught me to call no one unholy or unclean."

Some people think being chasv is a perversion and unholy. Some people say go to the word of God in the Bible but refuse to discuss contradictions and pasages that show a bloodthirsty deity. Some people say the love of God but threaten you with Hell.

Some people are just assholes when it comes to religion.

Blue Eyes you're crackin me up with these revelations about our own charleneV.

I noted in charleneV' s testimony/rebuttal there was never a denial about shoutin
down the preach and no denial of being kicked out the house of the lord. churches are so much fun! Gettin washed in the blood, and partaking of my flesh, talking in strange tongues. Whooboy!
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"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things." Isaiah 45:7

Poor Ms. Donnally would definately not appreciate one of my "passive-aggressive" buttons I occassionally wear: "Please, if you are going to undress me with your eyes, fold my clothes neatly!"

Hobart. that verse had nothing in it refering to homos. Don't hold the truth in a lie. That is what too many people do today and that' because they'd rather believe in a lie than to believe the truth!

It's amazing to see unbelievers using the scripture. I like, love, it... Tell me some more, Mr. M.
I know who miss old blue eye is. She lives down the road from me. Shame on her big mouth. But I know that the truth never hurts even when it is on me..

Well, elwood, "shouting down" is far to strong to describe it and I never cause descent among the brethern. But some brethern have cause descent in the church.
As you know I will make my opinion known just like you.
We are the salt of the earth and if we keep quiet then we are not being or doing the things we are supposed to do.
Read my earlier post.
If the devil was saved what would the preachers have to do????

Joke time, kiddies:

What's In a Name?

This guy walks into a bar and two steps in, he realizes it's a gay bar. "But what the heck," he says, "I really want a drink."

When the gay waiter approaches, he says to the customer, "What's the name of your penis?"

The customer says, "Look, I'm not into any of that. All I want is a drink."

The gay waiter says, "I'm sorry but I can't serve you until you tell me the name of your penis. Mine for instance is called 'Nike,' for the slogan, 'Just Do It.' That guy down at the end of the bar calls his 'Snickers,' because 'It really Satisfies."

The customer looks dumbfounded so the bartender tells him he will give him a second to think it over. The customer asks the man sitting to his left, who is sipping on a beer, "Hey bud, what's the name of your penis?"

The man looks back and says with a smile, "TIMEX."

The thirsty customer asks, "Why Timex?"

The fella proudly replies, "Cause it takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin!"

A little shaken, the customer turns to the fella on his right, who is sipping a fruity Margarita and says, "So, what do you call your penis?"

The man turns to him and proudly exclaims, "FORD, because 'Quality is Job 1.' " Then he adds, "Have you driven a Ford, lately?"

Even more shaken, the customer has to think for a moment before he comes up with a name for his penis. Finally, he turns to the bartender and exclaims, "The name of my penis is 'Secret.' Now give me my beer."

The bartender begins to pour the customer a beer, but with a puzzled look asks, "Why Secret?"

The customer says, "Because it's STRONG ENOUGH FOR A MAN, BUT MADE FOR A WOMAN!"

Zelda stand up and get off your ass because that's where your brain is.
Zel, we have no reason to be afraid of homos...

Stop your damn lying...

Let's see, what part of calling "no one unholy or unclean" don't you derstand, chasv? You're just a judgmental old man who thinks he's the only one who can tell everyone what the bible means. Who said you had the right to tell us how to believe or not believe? You can't even understand simple phrases in the Bible without twisting them through your narrow, literal-only interpretation mind.

As I said earlier, some think you're the perversion. Some don't care what you think. Some don't believe you can think.

But, I'm gonna disagree and remind you that the scripture is quite plain and doesn't say it has any exceptions when it says:

"God has taught me to call no one unholy or unclean." I didn't see any mention in that passage about exclusions in treating others around you. Nada. I guess you just haven't been taught by the right deity.

Anyway, time for another joke and this one is about religious bigots:

I was walking across a bridge one day, and I saw a man standing on the edge, about to jump. I ran over and said: "Stop. Don't do it."

"Why shouldn't I?" he asked.

"Well, there's so much to live for!"

"Like what?"

"Are you religious?"

He said: "Yes."

I said: "Me too. Are you Christian or Buddhist?"

"Christian."

"Me too. Are you Catholic or Protestant?"

"Protestant."

"Me too. Are you Episcopalian or Baptist?"

"Baptist."

"Wow. Me too. Are you Baptist Church of God or Baptist Church of the Lord?"

"Baptist Church of God."

"Me too. Are you original Baptist Church of God, or are you Reformed Baptist Church of God?"

"Reformed Baptist Church of God."

"Me too. Are you Reformed Baptist Church of God, Reformation of 1879, or Reformed Baptist Church of God, Reformation of 1915?"

He said: "Reformed Baptist Church of God, Reformation of 1915."

I said: "Die, heretic scum," and pushed him off.

FIRST time anyone ever used "talented" "comic" and "chasv" in the same sentence. We could be RID of these nutsack scumbags if everyone would just IGNORE what they say - you know, like you do Pres. DipShit...
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Jake you are no different than those people spoken of in the bible. You are forever resisting the the truth... but then you are old and set in your ways and no bomb can change you now.
Jake stop making up these things 'cause they serve no purpose.

Act 10:28 is about salvation coming to the gentiles and you (I do) thank the jews for that. Homos can be saved if they repent of their sins and confess Jesus as Lord.
You can too...
Praise the Lord.

Why, Commander Vick was 'johnny on the spot'. I guess he saw a real opportunity to play to his base. You moonbats really eat that stuff up, don't you? He knows that and wants to keep you happy. He has got to ensure that he can continue to afford that big house in Robinwood.

I checked other sources about your interpretation. They don't agree with you. They tend to take theat scripture at its face-value meaning - in other words, don't let your prejudices affect how you deal with others.

Faint praise indeed.

Strainedlove, I've seen more meaningful gibberish than what you just wrote. You put the "Oh!?" in obtuse.

I just hope that the Congress is forward thinking enough to include a change in uniforms when they approve the inclusion of homosexuals in the military. Smart dresses would be nice instead of those drab uniforms. You need to add some color. Feathers in the 'covers' would be nice. Some really smart jewelry would add greatly to one's appearance. How about it, sweetheart?

Jake, if they are left of Lenin you embrace ANYTHING they say. Commander Vick is just another hillcrest moonbat that plays to his audience like any other politican including some real winners like Huey, 'the kingfish' Long.

Like I said, I don't pick on defenseless folks and you certainly qualify for that award tonight. You're just wasting good oxygen with your accusations. They mean jackshit as we used to say in the Army.

I'm no more left of Lenin than you are right of Hitler. Learn how to debate and do some reasonable research.

Don't rely so much on ad hominem attacks or cheap propaganda phrases. Don't forget that a few weeks back you came on all sweet and light about Christian love and charity and in less than a week you turned into a raving and ranting fearmonger. Having helped people admitted at the state hospital, you certainly could qualify for treatment as much as they did. You exhibit similar tendencies and behaviors.

And quit being such a f--king mean bully. It's like you're some sado-masochist picking fights.

Analysis over.

Most of all, learn to debate. Quit using logical fallacies and a host of other inconsistent forms of argument.

Defragment your brain while you're at it. It's cluttered and confused.

When you've actually got something defensible and reasonable and civil, then you might earn my respect and attention.

FABulous esprit decor ideas, strangelove. Can you and I collaborate on redesigning those drab army outfits, since you have such visionary ideas? Obviously you got that esprit decor gene, too, when God dealt out the genetic hand to you.

And now that you've redesigned the lesbian units' outfits, what do you suggest for us gay guys?