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Bastard...hang him, too.

Let's make this one short. Burn him......now!

I'd like to take this sorry, low-down son of a bitch to the public square, hang him literally by his stinking balls, and beat him until he's the closest to death one can come without dying. Then, I'd like to lock the bastard into solitary confinement for the rest of his sorry life. No TV, nothing to read, no telephone, not a FKing thing but four blank walls and a crapper. (Without toilet paper.) How God allows scum like this to be on this Earth is beyond my comprehension.

Another rerun. What in the hell is wrong with these mothers? String them up too, for being such asshole mothers.

Please let the processes play out(quickly) and spike this asshole in the arm. Enough of our taxes are being wasted on incarceration as it is. ('tho, I must admit, the kid's solution just might provide a deterrent--and some great entertainment)

Zelda,

All I was saying in regards to the Humane Society story was the knee-jerk presumption on part of the media that this was a case of purposeful neglect without exploring the possibility that this could be a Grant County citizen living in deplorable conditions, unable to take care of herself or her pets.

I come from a very rural area and I've got to say that such circumstances are, sadly, not all that rare. People get one, then take in another without the means or sense to have the animals sterilized-when I was growing up, there was a house close to mine that we estimated had about 30 cats and I guarantee that they weren't selling those things.

Arkansas is a poor state. Now, I had mentioned before, that the residence from where the pets were seized had no electricity and no running water. Do you think someone would live in such conditions if they had a choice? It seems highly likely that this person, as she stated, had an illness and was not able to care for herself, much less her pets. Just imagine, it was you. Imagine it was you who was sick, sitting in a house with no AC in 100 degree heat and no running water. Now imagine the stench of feces, urine, and the smell of infected skin and carcases.

I admit, perhaps it was a knee-jerk reaction on my part, but I work people in abject poverty on a daily basis. The possibility of this being a genuine puppy mill seems less likely, but I admit I could be at least partially wrong.

A felony charge is serious and comes with serious consequences to include:

prison time
the inability to get a decent job (and thus health insurance)
inability to secure car insurance, in many cases
loss of voting rights while under punishment
loss of right to own or use firearms (hunting)
inability to obtain certain types of federal assistance (food, housing, Pell grants)

If the prosecutor does press charges against someone who neglected an animal under the scenerio I described, absent of mens rea, what just purpose is served? You've got someone that already lacks the means to even care for themselves-the effects of a felony charge are an insufferable burden.

All I'm saying is that we must take care that we don't lobby for and enact a law with unintended consequences.

This is a very sad story. Every life is precious, and it is terrible for a child to be killed. It's curious to hear so many on this blog in support of the death penalty for this tragedy. If the woman had chosen to end the child's life a week before delivery, many of you would fully support her decision. If the man deserves the death penalty, what about the woman who left the baby with this man?

Since you liberals seem to be taking the conservative argument, I think I'll give the liberal response.

I think that perhaps we are being too quick to judge the guy.

Consider the sad state of affairs. This was likely a low income family with no government provided day care, health care, or parental training. Clearly the child is at the age where she is teething and experiencing excruciating pain. Perhaps the mother failed to change the baby's diaper or feed the baby before leaving her with this man. Was he a father or just a boy friend? Did the woman dump the baby on a man who clearly had no idea of how to care for her child? Where was the "village" to provide guidance and assistance to this needy family. Where was the village to teach this young adult how to care for and comfort a baby. The child may have been crying for hours. If a prisoner at Guantanamo had been forced to listen to a screaming baby for hours, you leftists would call it torture. When a woman murders her children shortly after pregnancy, we call it mental illness and make excuses for it. Here's a guy who may have tried everything he could think of to comfort the child, and in a fit of rage did something he regrets for the rest of his life. Babies are a great source of joy, but they are also a huge commitment and a great deal of frustration. If we prosecute every parent for every mistake they ever make, is there any parent that would not be in jail? While the guy certainly deserves punishment, without additional evidence the death penatly seems a little harsh.

If only the child could have been in the custody of gay foster parents...

This is a sad, sorry story but we lived the same thing in my family 8 yrs ago. My youngest got married in his senior year because he and girlfriend were pregnant. Marriage was awful and he joined the Army. While he was in boot camp in NoCar, little wife got a boyfriend and he almost killed our little 18 mo old grandchild that meant the world to my son. I had to call my 18 yr old son in the middle of the night and tell his CO that if he didn't hurry home he might not see his daughter alive as she wasn't expected to live through the night. She had a lacerated liver, a concussion, broken arm, broken ribs and she was in a coma for 2 months. She lived - she was with us all day yesterday. She's beautiful and never meets a stranger. I love her more than the air I breathe. The boy responsible got a 20 yr sentence and got out in 8 (few months ago) for good behavior. He came from excellent family and they were just crushed that their son did this.

I could have killed him that night with my bare hands. I know I scared him - he was denying everything but I knew my dau-in-law didn't do that damage to her baby so it had to be him. I screamed at him till they had to sedate me and my oldest son took him out side and shoved him up against the wall a few dozen times and told him not to dare try to get out of taking responsibility.

He FINALLY admitted what had happened when the doctors at Children's Hosp confronted him and baby's mother that no 'dog' playing rough with the child could have done that and they were advising the police to arrest somebody.

I cringe every time I see one of these stories because it doesn't just happen to other people - it can happen in families where you would least expect it. My grandaughter's mother was a good girl, honor roll student, and so was the boyfriend she took up with - there were not druggies or from homes with violence. God only knows what drives someone to beat a child. I guessed, after I calmed down, that since he was small, maybe he felt powerful for the first time. Who knows - he was alone with the child for only about an hour while the mother went to eat with her parents - boyfriend was not invited - maybe that's why he did it. Who knows.....

I've been afraid for all these 8 yrs that my son would run into him some day and beat the snot out of him and get in trouble himself. But so far they haven't crossed paths. She has lasting scars - a limp, a lisp, a hand that won't work right - cerebral palsy, etc. But she's beautiful, she's bright and she is sunshine, and I don't want the young man responsible to be killed. I might have killed him with my bare hands, but I still had no desire for the courts to sentence the death penalty - not for a moment

'Hey! An awful story about a child dying/being murdered. Think I'll use that as a chance to stick it to those sorry-ass liberals.'

You're sad, Severus.

What's worse than a baby killing? Watching your mother be shot several times in the head.
story on blue name.

The redacted part of the story is that the killer went to the truck, parked on the street, got the .9mm pistol, re entered the home and shot the mother in front of her children. That's premeditated. Murder One.

There's gonna be another of those messy lethal injections coming out of a Rogers court. Cry about it.

Children traumatized for life.
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When will these young mothers ever learn??? Don't leave the most precious thing in the
world with a boyfriend!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When it comes to children I'm not left, right, dem or repug........
just a loving mom and G'ma.

If the woman had chosen to end the child's life a week before delivery, many of you would fully support her decision.

You're making shit up again Severus. It is against the law to end a pregnancy that late in the game and if you don't know it, you need to go to night school. No Liberal would support such a thing except in special cases when its a choice between the life of the mother or the life of the child. You are an excellent example of someone with flawed brain wiring. I hope they don't let you operate a motor vehicle. You just like to say white when everyone else is saying black. If you are a home schooled kid playing on Mom's computer while she's out, stop it, go outside and play. Jesus!

DBI:

Many of you libs have been supportive of Wesley Clark. Wesley Clark has said, and many libs agree with him, that until the moment of birth, a woman should be allowed to kill her baby with no government interference. I would suspect that Obama's opinion is very similar - no restrictions on abortion period.

"A very different Wesley Clark showed up in an interview last week with the Manchester [New Hampshire] newspaper, The Union Leader. Clark said that he would never appoint a pro-life judge to the federal bench, citing the judicial precedent of the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision as his rationale. From that start, Clark then proceeded to launch a radical vision that goes beyond anything ever articulated by a major presidential candidate to date. "Life begins with the mother's decision," Clark argued. According to the news story: "The presidential candidate also told The Union Leader that until the moment of birth, the government has no right to influence a mother's decision on whether to have an abortion."

Wesley Clark is a very prominent leader in your chosen party.

EGGGGXACTLY SEVERUS. DBI, YOU STILL HAVENT FIGURED OUT WHAT CSECTION MEANS AND HOW DADGUM FAST IT CAN BE GOTTEN. YOU ARE SUCH A HYPOCRITE. NEVER AN EXCUSE, NEVER. PICTURE A BABY DELIVERED TILL JUST THE HEAD IS STILL INSIDE. NOW. TAKE A SHARP INSTRUMENT AND INSERT AT BASE OF BABY'S SKULL. NOW TWIST, NOW PULL IT ALL OUT. RIGHT YOU GOT THE RECIPE FOR A PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION., LEGAL TILL BIRTH AND JUST BEFORE. ALL YOU HAVE TO SAY IS "THE MOTHER'S LIFE IS IN DANGER"

IF THIS IS GROSS TO YOU. THINK OF HOW THE BABY FEELS. AND THEY DO FEEL. GOT THE PICTURE ALL YHOU BOZOS OUT THERE. HOPE WESLEY CLARK READS THIS.. EVIDENTLY HE NOR ANY OF YOU KNOW JUST HOW ITS DONE. AND THIS IS EXACTLY HOW IT IS DONE.

SWEET DREAMS ALL YOU CRAZY LIBS.

LargeAss, you are a damned stupid idiot and you know NOTHING about late term abortions, so kindly shut the hell up!

To my liberal comrades,

Don't get me wrong, the death of this beautiful baby girl is a tragedy. The idiot who hit the child does however deserve his day in court. I know that many young parents have a very hard time, and that some children are very difficult to deal with. I wonder if DBI ever got mad at his children and did anything he regretted? I've seen good parents overreact to things their children do. I've seen extremely frustrated parents try to deal with a crying baby. Sleep deprivation can do strange things to people. I don't think a baby should every be hit for any reason.

I think the idiot needs to be punished, but this hardly seems like a death penalty case.

Many of you liberals applauded the US supreme court for striking down Louisiana's death penalty for the rape of a child, so I find it curious that many of you advocate the ultimate penalty for a crime of rage. The idiot likely had no idea how to comfort the child, and he freaked out and did something extremely stupid. Unless the idiot has a history of violence, I wouldn't support the death penalty in this case. If on the other hand he regularly beat his girlfriend or the baby, go ahead and give him the chair.

I have worked in healthcare for over 20 yrs for general surgeons and for ob/gyn physicians. During that time there was only one (1) woman who sought a late term abortion but she had to leave the state of Ark to get that procedure done. She was about 35 with 2 children and married for the second time. She was a school teacher and wanted a child with her second husband. During her 6th month, the ultrasound indicated severe abnormalities with the child. She opted to wait a few weeks and undergo another sonogram. This time there was definitive proof the fetus had no skull on the back of it's head, the brain was so small it was mostly just a stem. This would not have been a life even had the heart and lungs functioned after birth. She painfully and tearfully decided to end the pregnancy. She went to Missouri. The child was fully delivered vaginally and immediately died without any interference from the doctor. The child couldn't live outside the mother's body.

This was the hardest thing she ever did and it was not a whim. I get so sick of right to lifers going on and on about something they know nothing about and quoting propaganda from websites created by people who kno nothing...... Women don't decide at 9 months that they just don't want another child, and late term abortions could easily be banned as long as there was a provision for the life and HEALTH of the mother. I think that is the position of most Dems - including Wesley Clark. I know about the statements he made to the contrary but he said he wasn't an expert on the subject and the on the issues website indicates he favors a ban so long as the mother is protected.

You will note it is usually men who yell about this subject and they should just shut up and sit down.

Lew & Ci.Ci: priceless...and right! Go away, boys, and take your shovels and buckets with you...
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"Many of you liberals applauded the US supreme court for striking down Louisiana's death penalty for the rape of a child, s"

Name one.

LARGEASSHOLE = TROLL

I will admit to supporting, not applauding the Supreme Court decision to strike down the death penalty for child rape. It's not something fun to support, and it's support with a small s, but unless there were extenuating circumstances, like beating or mutilation, I want to stick the death penalty on people who kill.

These nut cases like LargeAss love to talk and type all that horrible stuff. They like to put on children's plays where dead aborted fetuses come back to life and talk to their would-be parents about Jesus. They like to talk about gay men eating feces during sex.....and all kinds of things I can't waste my beautiful mind on. I think they become erect when they speak of such things.

Something about having an imaginary friend makes em a little sadomasochistic.....go figure. They never dream up stuff like the case Ci.Ci. knows about for real. They never think about how the prisons are full of people whose parents would have done them a favor by aborting them, instead of birthing them and abusing and neglecting them so they grow up doomed to go to prison.

They imagine every aborted child to be the palest shade of white, to be denied a beautiful perfect home, with loving, well off parents. They see the face of Jesus in the little bit of goo that has yet to develop into something resembling a child. No sane person is in favor of late term abortions, or abortions for fun or abortions just to piss off homely Christians whose chance of having sex are nil.

I am 100% anti-abortion and I've proved that by never fathering a child who doesn't at this moment live in my house with me. Even drunk and high, I kept my wits about me when it was orgasm time down south. It's not my business to tell a woman she must grow a child in her body no matter what the situation is. It's not the business of the government or the church either.

And for the record, I have never got mad at my children and done something I regret...snot one single time in 21 years. I've taken parenthood super seriously since day 1. But thanks for asking.

Cato,

I will just refer you to the permanent link.

I most definitely supported the SC decision to strike down the death penalty in child rape. It has nothing to do with the crime and how heinous it is - just that we cannot give the courts and judges and juries the power to sentence people to death for ever more crimes. Absolutely this liberal applauded the SC.

>>Wesley Clark has said, and many libs agree with him, that until the moment of birth, a woman should be allowed to kill her baby with no government interference.<<

Do you have a source for that Servus?

But once again why are rwingnuts so concerned about what's in the womb and not little ones starving to death on the planet? You bunch of criminals have decided a growing child can eat in America for $3 day and it's fine for the USA to be the stingiest nation of all industrialized nations with foreign aid to starving nations. We give a smaller per cent of GDP than any other industrialized nation.

"The world hunger problem: Facts, figures and statistics

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In the Asian, African and Latin American countries, well over 500 million people are living in what the World Bank has called "absolute poverty"
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Every year 15 million children die of hunger
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For the price of one missile, a school full of hungry children could eat lunch every day for 5 years
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Throughout the 1990's more than 100 million children will die from illness and starvation. Those 100 million deaths could be prevented for the price of ten Stealth bombers, or what the world spends on its military in two days!
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The World Health Organization estimates that one-third of the world is well-fed, one-third is under-fed one-third is starving- Since you've entered this site at least 200 people have died of starvation. Over 4 million will die this year.
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One in twelve people worldwide is malnourished, including 160 million children under the age of 5. United Nations Food and Agriculture

elwood,

How many of the starving children are in Africa and North Korea where repressive regimes don't let the aid get through? I don't think the government has any business taking money from US taxpayers to give it away to other nations. Taxpayers are free to donate to charities as they wish.

Our free spending congress needs to quit spending so much money. We need leaders who can balance the budget and start paying off the national debt. We don't need to borrow money from China to give it away to other countries, regardless of how worthwhile the charity. We need to get serious about paying our bills. When social security and medicaid go bust, Americans will be the ones starving.

Thanks sev.

We need leaders who can balance the budget and start paying off the national debt. We don't need to borrow money from China to give it away to other countries, regardless of how worthwhile the charity.<<

Mercy, you just flunked the Bush economics plan. We must borrow from China and Japan and Saudis to keep this ship afloat. Neo con policies don't work and there's nothing like our current situation to prove it. All Bush has done is postpone the inevitable. Clinton had the balls to balance it out with TAX INCREASE.

Bush committed 10 Billion to Africa to fight AIDS. That will be borrowed IF he ever delivers the aid.
He borrowed to give us a stimulus check. When the borrowing stops we collapse within 6 months.

For the record, my daughter is five. If someone did this to her, I might kill him if I got my hands on him--that's a human reaction--but I don't believe in the death penalty for anything (including child rape) short of war crimes. I'm not nuts about it even then. America is harder on criminals of all sorts than almost any other nation--certainly harder on them than other nations in the developed world. It doesn't seem to be helping our crime rate any.

SO SORRY THE TRUTH BUTTON HURT YOU BIG TIME CICI.. AND YOU JUST DONT WANNA HEAR IT. BUT GOOGLE IT AND CK FOR YOURSELVES. YOU , ELWOOD, JAZZY KIZZY AND THE LARGENESS DBI.

CANT STAND TO HEAR IT. THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE. YOU ALL ARE STILL TIED TIGHT,.

SOUNDS HORRID, IT IS, BUT THEY DO IT AND CAN DO UP TO DELIVERY. SORRY YOU ARE WRONG . BET EVEN WESLEY DOESNT KNOW JUST HOW ITS DONE. YOU SURE DIDNT IF YOU DID AND STILL APPROVE.. YOU AINT RIGHT IN TH E HEAD. .

GROW UP.. ITS PLAYIN WITH THE BIG BOYS KIDZ. HATE TO SAY IT , BUT I DO KNOW ABOUT IT. CKD IT OUT LONG LONG AGO. IF YOU DONT WANT IT . ITS A FETUS AND THE LIFE OF THE MOTHER IS AT STAKE, IF YOU DO.. ITS LETS GET A CSECTION AND GET THAT BABY BORN LIKE IT WAS MEANT TO BE.

YOU ARENT CONVINCING TO ANYONE, NOT EVEN TO YOURSELF CICEE RANT AWAY. YOU LITTLE PERLOUX

Largeass, I'm convinced a visit to your favorite proctologist would completely change your life.

SWEET DREAMS ALL YOU CRAZY LIBS.
Posted by: LargeAss July 22, 2008 03:16 PM

CANT STAND TO HEAR IT. THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE. YOU ALL ARE STILL TIED TIGHT,.
: LargeAss July 22, 2008 09:44 PM

We know it happens LA, your sister can't stand you, kicks you out of bed.
Better head to the woodshed, get some sleep. We'll be back tomorrow.

This is just a horrible situation, and for someone to say this just buns me:

"Another rerun. What in the hell is wrong with these mothers? String them up too, for being such asshole mothers.
Posted by: Cato"

Mothers?!? MOTHERS?? It's wasn't the mother that did the deed, she was grocery shopping. It was the man that did this, and I'm so tired of women being blamed for the things men do I could spit nails!

Severus
I am not a liberal and still i even agree with DBI on this one. I believe it was he who said: "Let's make this one short. Burn him......now!"

The man admitted to the crime end of story.