Arkansas Blog

Ok, testy morning here as usual.
Maybe other presidential candidates have made this type of trek in the past. I don't remember if they did. But to me it reeks of the unseemly, as if the election is a foregone conclusion, with the candidate taking a victory lap. Or maybe it's all the media's fault, given the scale of coverage.
In any case, the brouhaha doesn't enamour me of Barack Obama. Yeah, I'll vote for him, but only because I don't think we can survive another four years of Rethuglican idiocy.
Please, please, let my misgivings be wrong, wrong, wrong.

I completely agree Doigotta, this guy's arrogance is tempered (for me) only by the fact he is intelligent. That kind of arrogance plus supreme stupidity is what gave us the past 8 yrs of fiasco after fiasco. I only hope that intelligence makes the difference.......

Well, at least "the world's worst polluter" can get something right. But physically attacking the German
chancellor, oh well, he saved the best for Condi Rice.

"Other topics included Pakistan, the Middle East peace process, the trans-Atlantic economic partnership, the global economy and "the need for cooperation on the international level and in international organizations to solve important global questions," Wilhelm said."

How could Monkey-in-Pimp discuss those other topics. Hell, he can't even pronounce them.

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That's a hilarious post. My developing thought is that we are in for a final comparison between the two parties during President Obama's administration. When the remnants of the right-wing noise machine begins the daily smear in 2009, the reasonable side will always have a clear comparison to make, with quotes and images drawn from recent history. This post is a prime example. To make it a real change we are going to need a matching aggression, a final push back against the conservative nonsense we have so long tolerated, from the new administration. Is this not a good start, him taking the foreign policy argument straight at McCain?

Now for the reader comments - explain further. Are you guys wathcing too much TV coverage? Are you just too accustomed to US foreign policy being about deception, hidden agendas, false narratives implied on other countires, and bunker-room war making that you are shocked to see a future president traveling to take a realistic survey of geopolitics?

The rest of the world has in may ways a better idea of just how dangerous, evil, and incompetant America is these days..

I read an AP article saying if the German people were going to cast a vote for McCain or Obama today.. Obama would win with 74 percent.. I forget what McCain would have garnered, but the undecideds were almost as high as MCCain=Bush III.

The rest of the world sees we are on a global killing and torture and illegal rendition spree.. and why would anyone with less military not be very concerned when a superpower (militarily speaking) is unable to stop itself... much more keep from waging wars and occupations needlessly to begin with.

It is not reasonable to compare much of the campaign season with seasons past... these are unique times. I haven't been to Europe in a few years, but the average European in the streets and cafes knew more about us in '03 and '04 than most Americans have figured out or been willing to admit to themselves today. Europeans were very alarmed, disturbed even.. rightfully so.

Look at a lot of the global polling.. we are extremely unpopular around the world, even among our so called allies. people are trying to separate Bush from we the people but we do ourselves no service by embracing that if it means we don't take responsibility and mend our madness.. fact is we are a nation who allowed Bushco to steal the office twice and perhaps most egregious.. lie us into war.. and never insisted loud enough Bushco be impeached and tried for war crimes..

Our international friends are deeply concerned and we have countless new enemies who have the last 7 years to refer to when telling there folks how stupid, evil, and dangerous we are.

Like right here at home, the rest of the world was ready for the next president 7 years ago.. Don't blame Obama for not being Bush the third.

At my name is a 5 second youtube clip of the photo Max used above.. ANd we need to call Obama arrogant??!! good grief.

"Maybe other presidential candidates have made this type of trek in the past. I don't remember if they did. But to me it reeks of the unseemly, as if the election is a foregone conclusion, with the candidate taking a victory lap. Or maybe it's all the media's fault, given the scale of coverage.
In any case, the brouhaha doesn't enamour me of Barack Obama. Yeah, I'll vote for him, but only because I don't think we can survive another four years of Rethuglican idiocy.
Please, please, let my misgivings be wrong, wrong, wrong."

Um, Obama's trek to the Middle East was prompted by a challenge by McCain, who has visited the Middle East. It's been pretty well covered in the media how Obama was responding to McCain's challenge. (You don't like Barack Obama, I get it.)

One idiot's arrogance (Bush) doesn't mean the next person is not also arrogant (Obama). The trip is not necessarily arrogant for me, but much of his assuming he's already won, plus many other statements he's made reveal a lot of arrogance I don't find particularly appealing. But..........he's still the candidate I will support in every way. Just can't pretend he's humble and caring, cause he ain't.

As a matter of fact, NewAmerica, I rarely watch television. Future president? I hope so, primarily because I think McCain is as much a fool as Bush and as out-of-touch as Reagan in his last term.
A realistic survey of geopolitics? Study, Barack, study.
But it's not yet time even for laying the groundwork for foreign policy in an Obama White House. Nor is the credible and realistic foreign policy this country needs advanced by a president alone, much less by a presidential contender.
What will be particularly sad for this country is if John McCain somehow squeaks out a win in November. Barack Obama appears to have forgotten that there is some possibility that may happen. Yes, he is ahead in the polls. But is he ahead in the polls in enough states to garner an electoral college victory? And who knows what can happen between now and November?
The man needs to get his rear end home and make certain he will win the campaign. Then, foreign policy . . .

"but much of his assuming he's already won"

Not true.

"But it's not yet time even for laying the groundwork for foreign policy in an Obama White House. Nor is the credible and realistic foreign policy this country needs advanced by a president alone, much less by a presidential contender."

Barack Obama's withdrawal plan was endorsed by Prime Minister Maliki and other Iraqi officials. His trip has been touted as a success across the board, and now John McCain has been suggesting he might be for a timed withdrawal too after BHO's success.

Where did you get the idea that he is advancing the foreign policy on his own? Did you make it up?

"The man needs to get his rear end home and make certain he will win the campaign. Then, foreign policy . . ."

How is this at all hurting his election campaign? He's attacking the area voters thought he was weakest in (foreign policy), and he's "hitting a home run" according to most pundits, getting Maliki's endorsement for his withdrawal plan. Not to mention, voters will see the support he has abroad (worldwantsobama.org compiles this).

Look, I don't like much of BHO's holiness and some of his policy positions either, but some criticism is straightup unfair.

The man needs to get his rear end home and make certain he will win the campaign<<

Doigotta, your posts are, 97% of the time, above average. But you're missing the boat. BHO garners much more domestic press on foreign soil than he would here. Likewise McBush's travels to Baghdad made him a media darling for more than 15 minutes. However Bushman II's fakery did not play well upon his return.

I think BHO is doing quite well with his global tour if only to help erase our negative foreign image.

Text of Obama's oh so arrogant speech in Germany (at my name). /s

I have to say turning off my television (from MSM not occasional cspan) this summer has been the best thing! Turn off the spin meisters who look at everything through the britney cosmetic lens..

Barry Hussein (Peace Be Upon Him) cancels visit to Landstuhl and Rammstein hospitals due what spokesman describes as: "The senator decided out of respect for these servicemen and women that it would be inappropriate to make a stop to visit troops at a U.S. military facility as part of a trip funded by the campaign."

Meanwhile, in His (PBUH) speech today: "Tonight, I speak to you not as a candidate for President, but as a citizen - a proud citizen of the United States, and a fellow citizen of the world."

So which is it? A campaign stop, or the visit as a private citizen?

Maybe pictures of Obama (PBUH) with injured troops, that He (PBUH) has said have done an excellent job, would not play well with the people who want Him (PBUH) to pull the troops out now.

Or, maybe Obama (PBUH) visiting a couple of 57-year-old military bases would not help His (PBUH) tacit approval of the 100-years in Iraq meme.

Why wouldn't the Germans be happy to see Obama. He has blamed the US for all of the world's problems. He's essentially saying that the US needs to be subservient to the UN and western Europe. He has previously tried to tax the American people based on GNP to give money to the UN. This is Jimmy Carter's second coming but even worse. Of course this will play well in Europe. Barack Obama is saying with his presidency, we will cower in fear and ask Germany and France to take our place as world leaders, and that we'll send them money to do the job. If the UN would like to enact a tax on the US, Obama is all for it. Apparently under the Obama presidency, we will be led by the UN. Obama is a joke.

Hi ARed,

Back to your intellectual, rational, deeply reasoned, and weighty fact-based comments again, I see and irritated that someone might believe in being a citizen of the world instead of just the U.S. right(wing/eous) clan.

". . . Propagandists use the name-calling technique to incite fears and arouse prejudices in their hearers in the intent that an invoked bad name will cause hearers to construct a negative opinion about a person, group, or set of beliefs or ideas that the propagandist would wish hearers to denounce. The method is intended to provoke conclusions and actions about a matter apart from an impartial examinations of the facts of the matter. When employed, name-calling is thus a substitute for rational, fact-based arguments against an idea or belief, based upon its own merits. . . . "

Hi ARed,

Back to your intellectual, rational, deeply reasoned, and weighty fact-based comments again, I see and irritated that someone might believe in being a citizen of the world instead of just the U.S. right(wing/eous) clan.

". . . Propagandists use the name-calling technique to incite fears and arouse prejudices in their hearers in the intent that an invoked bad name will cause hearers to construct a negative opinion about a person, group, or set of beliefs or ideas that the propagandist would wish hearers to denounce. The method is intended to provoke conclusions and actions about a matter apart from an impartial examinations of the facts of the matter. When employed, name-calling is thus a substitute for rational, fact-based arguments against an idea or belief, based upon its own merits. . . . "

Thanks for the quote, Doc. I was about to say something similar in response, but in a much less elegant way.

Nice to see Doc totally ignore the point.

A spokesman says the visit was cancelled because of it was a "campaign funded trip."

The principal opens the speech by saying they were not there as a candidate for President.

I am pointing out the obvious discrepancy in the stories, and offering a couple of plausible reasons as to why. I will even offer a few more:

1) The spokesman made and "inartful" comment.
2) The spokesman was not the spokesman that we knew before.
3) The speechmaker made an "inartful" comment.
4) The speechmaker was not the speechmaker that the speechmaker knew before.
5) Pointing out this discrepancy is divisive and not the change we can believe in.
6) The change we can believe in is not the change we can believe in that we knew before, therefore it can't be believed in.

The principal opens the speech by saying they were not there as a candidate for President.

by A Red

Well DUH.. I don't think Germans are going to be able to vote for him.. even the GOPers with their Diebold's would have a tough time pulling that off.

Meanwhile, what does McCain do today? Visits an oil rig... talk about arrogant.. nothing but oil money and endless war on these cretins minds.

And Sev... AMerica would be twice the country it is today.. had we reelected Carter.. a good christian, a smart man, instead of Reagan and his hateful greedy Bush Cheney Rummy neo con clan.

If the worst fault Obama has is arrogance, I'll be tickled pink!

It's so nice to hear a presidential candidate speak English. I forgot how much I missed Bill...and even Reagan. What Shit for Brains has done to the office is a crime...like everything else he's done.

Which oil rig are you speaking of, Eureka?

Whoops looks like McCain just planned to visit an oil rig.. but weather and AN OIL SPILL.. caused a change of plans

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/07/23/politics/horserace/entry4287383.shtml

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But McCain's camp had a plan to take at least some of the spotlight, as Politico's Jonathan Martin reports: An address on an oil rig in the Gulf Coast to make the case for expanded offshore drilling.

Unfortunately for McCain, the weather wouldn't cooperate: The campaign emailed reporters this afternoon to say, "The meeting with Governor Jindal has been postponed and we are canceling the trip to the rig due to weather." (McCain was to have met with Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindel, one of the people believed to be on the short list to be his running mate, in New Orleans.) McCain will now head to Ohio instead, where he will appear with Lance Armstrong.
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Don't leave us hanging. What caused the oil spill, Eureka?

"Counting the days." -Max

According to the handy dandy countdown calendar, it is 180 days today. The calendar also says that on this day in 2004 Bush desecrated a US flag by autographing it for fans.

Severus, my god. Turn off Fox for a minute and realize that Europe and the UN have roles to play in the world. Remember when they said to Americans, "hey this would be an illegal invasion of Iraq and a complete disaster for the entire world. Not only will it make you less safe from "terror" but it will result in misery, destruction, and the loss of your credibility in on the world stage."??

Good thing President All-Hat showed them where to stick that one and got us on into Iraq anyway. It was important, too, to undermine our intelligence agencies and fabricate causes for war. You are a fool, Severus, and by the way, leave the hate speech against fellow Americans in your mind, we don't want to hear it.

Google it AR Red, twas yesterdays news.. big spill... New Orleans/Gulf Coast.. certainly not the photo op the more war for oil GOP McBush III candidate needs.. especially contrasting with photos of Obama speaking coherently to half to a million people.

I just wanted to see if you would note that it was a collision between a barge and a tanker that resulted in the spilling of fuel and not oil.

Or note that the tugboat pilot pushing the barge wasn't properly licensed.

Guess that doesn't matter to you when you have a bumper sticker to write.

BTW, since no one seems to care about the diss of our boys at Landstuhl, here is a picture of a bipartisan visit by some Arkansans.

I just wanted to see if you would note that it was a collision between a barge and a tanker that resulted in the spilling of fuel and not oil.

Or note that the tugboat pilot pushing the barge wasn't properly licensed.

Guess that doesn't matter to you when you have a bumper sticker to write.

Posted by: Arkansas Red

And which party.. the party of illegal worker hate.. let that happen Red? When you going to admit.. the dollar trumps even the Bible or Bigotry in the GOP.. much less rule of law.

If we had our coast guard at home and a care in the world for the citizens of New Orleans, safety, and regulations including monitoring of foreigners on ships in our ports.. instead of occupying and killing millions of innocent never threatened us for a day non terrorists on iraq... we would be paying attention to those things... and we would be reducing oil shipping/risk of spills.. all while saving american lives and trillions in burned..gone forever treasure.

But then McBush funders wouldn't have 125 dollar oil (which has always been the goal).. And you all claim to give a rats butt about terrorism of any kind. You and you chosen politicians are the terrorists.. often by intentional neglect/ mismanagement.. Like Bushco building a wall on the TX Mex border right now.. atop crumbling LEVIES.. again.

Plus the countless American citizens in New orleans area who now have a toxic water supply.

Once again, AR Red.. you show your love of fact free fascism by always ignoring your own folks endless criminal and hypocritical culpability.

Doigotta:
>>As a matter of fact..........I rarely watch television.>The man needs to get his rear end home and make certain he will win the campaign. Then, foreign policy . . .<<

If you'd watch a little TV you would realize what tremendous coverage Obama's trip is getting. Most Americans get their news from television and the trip has been all over both networks, CNN and MSNBC.

Watch the NBC news at 5:30 for Brian Williams' interview with Obama.

It's not Obama's fault, but the same goobers who thought Dubya's ignorance made him one of the guys (never mind the wasted Ivy League education), aren't going to like those 'foreigners' raving over Obama/dissing McSame. It's a sad statement that so many can be hoodwinked by North easterners pretending to be Texans and an ancient dyed-in-the-wool Republican legacy pretending to be a maverick...but then Monkeyboy's entire presidency has revealed that we will buy anything if we're scared enough and if there's billions selling it. It is an ugly revelation.

It's a slippery slope Obama is treading...being so eloquent/cultured and understanding of humans everywhere. We're still the country that whined about french fries and poured out French wine 'cause the French president was correct about Iraq and President Shit for Brains. Then there's 'old Europe'...

'There are billions...of mistakes.

A-Red,

Your slander of Obama for having the integrity to not use the wounded or veterans for campaign photo-op is, as John Nance Garner said, "not worth a bucket of warm spit." And I do mean his original non-Bowdlerized version.

Your diminutive idols, the "Liar-in-Chief" and Mini-Bush would and have crawled over hot broken glass to get photos with wounded and veterans to boost their political image. They see nothing wrong in manipulating the veterans for political face then leaving them in abysmal neglected conditions conditions to recover from their wounds (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/17/AR2007021701172.html).

Had you ever signed those papers you mentioned for the Corps and served in a war zone, you would want to grind every slimy politician back into the muck and ooze they slithered out of to visit "their troops." Show me visits by the "Liar-in-Chief" and Mini-Bush to actually visit wounded and veterans unaccompanied by every photographer and writer their staff could shanghai, including gay pseudo-journalist plants like James Dale Guckert, aka Jeff Gannon. Your little miniscule idols have even tried to claim James Webb's G.I. Bill which they opposed. They didn't even have the class to offer the pecuniary incentive of the cartoon.

You should be proud, A-Red. You've convinced me that your integrity and class have a reached a par with your diminutive idols.

Obama is the presumptive next president of the United States. The current lame-duck failure is totally out of the picture now, relegated to the briefest of safe public appearances. Don't expect much else out of him because he will be nearly concealed or sequestered in the Rose Garden for the rest of his term. I HOPE for that! His administration is still studying some kind of evil, no doubt - or its various legal shields that will have to be used to shelter them from prosecution for the crimes they've committed. Bush and Cheney will not travel abroad (except if it is to Iraq or Afghanistan) again in their lives for fear of (warranted) arrest as war criminals.

While Obama has been on this tour, he has been well-received by the country we occupy, Israel and everywhere in Europe. This can not be a bad thing for an intelligent, positive representative to be abroad, improving international relations.

I don't get the "arrogance" accusation against Obama.

Nor do I get comments about Obama's "pretending" to be humble and caring "'cause he ain't."

There's a real (not just perceived) antipathy in much of America toward people who are intelligent, well-educated, ambitious to lead, articulate, poised in public-speaking situations, informed, fact-based, honest and charismatic.

The envy and resentment against those who are ambitious, educated and successful are palpable. "Elites!" they scream. "Activist judges!"

We're supposed to elect trailer-park dwellers to POTUS because they're not "elite?"

How can anybody call Obama uncaring? How can anybody KNOW! "Uncaring" is just an opinion, based on I have no idea what.

And "humble?" What the fuck does THAT mean? What are we, electing Ghandi here? What's "humble" mean?

Manitou-jawed old McCain (and his handlers) seem to get more petulant and jealous of Obama by the day. I guess it's "follow the leader" since McCain's lemmings seem to be following their candidate over the cliff into what's euphemistically called, "second childhood."

Namely, McCain's had increasingly violent anger-managament issues developing over the years (even his own party tries to "joke" those episodes away), can't get his facts straight on anything, lies continually whether deliberately or delusionally . . . all symptoms of pre-senile dementia.

We've been through a senile President with Reagan. Even eight years of the Clinton Administration, which left us with a budget surplus among other things, couldn't repair the Reagan Administration's damage to America and its Constitution.

No, "arrogance" truly applies to John McCain, who idiotically continues inflating and revising facts to make himself look "presidential" when facts and gaffes in interviews go instantly viral on the internet.

'Course, McCain doesn't know how to use the internet. He's learning to, he says. Terrific.

The internet's been around at least 30 years and McCain still can't do email?

Good thing phones were invented before he was born because his capacity to absorb "new" technology seems limited.

Arrogance also applies to our current President, who's smirked his way through life and can't point to Iraq on a map, much less to any success or respect since he's failed at everything he's ever attempted, and had to be bailed out by Daddy's wealthy well-connected "elite" friends, including the Presidency into which he was thrust by his behind-the-throne powers and the Republican Supreme Court.

"Arrogance" is a trait of the weak. It's pretentious and egotistical. Like bullying. Every time I see a man "proving" his manhood, you know, by strutting across the deck of an aircraft carrier wearing a flightsuit, with a phony "Mission Accomplished" prominent in the background, or yelling adolescent football field challenges like, "Bring 'em on!" I know I'm dealing with a man who's insecure in his masculinity, beset with penis-envy and has erectile-dysfunction.

NOT POTUS material, as the world recognizes in Obama on this tour.

We'll never know, thank God, but the global perception is Obama's packin'.

The richest, smartest, most successful men I've known (and I've known a lot, honey, who'd make the male Arkansas power-structure look like Jed Clampett) have invariably been the nicest, most direct, least pretentious, smartest, most friendly and accessible men I've ever known.

Because they have nothing to prove. They don't have to tell you how great they are. It's already obvious.

That's what's disturbing to McCain and his team (and some posters on this blog).

McCain keeps trying to "prove" that he is: Obama just is. The public knows the difference.

Every day it becomes increasingly obvious that Obama is better-educated than McCain, better-informed on the war and the issues than McCain, a better politician than McCain, with far more natural "charisma" (or "gravitas" if you prefer).

McCain bristles when confronted or challenged, because he's defensive. He's been caught in too many public flip-flops over the years, too many lies lies and ignorance of facts. He turns mean like a cornered animal, in the face of truths. (Calling your wife a "cunt" in public? Grade school. A boy, not a man.)

Obama relaxes and takes on all questions, unruffled.

McCain's the icon of the Old. Obama's the icon of the new. McCain is Stasis. Obama is Hope.

Obama's current tour is brilliant politics and McCain's team is pissed they didn't think of it first.

200,000 Berliners turning out for Obama's speech?

Soldiers in the Middle East flocking to Obama like he's the second coming?

While McCain keeps fucking up so badly that this week's ONE press appearance was canceled today?

The rest of the world picks up on the American and global Hope that is Obama. Thus his huge reception on his drop-dead in-your-face tour.

"The Dark Knight" blockbuster of IMAX political positioning. Brilliant!

Obama's seen not so much as a rock-star but a savior of sorts.

IF Obama can win, if he can be allowed to win (considering the thugs who stole the last two elections and want desperately to cement and further their control of this country), IF Obama is not assassinated (the threat of which is the Elephant In The Living Room of every political discussion I have) . . . IF Obama becomes POTUS . . . Americans and the rest of the world sense a seismic change in the international gestalt.

Electing the leader of the Free World is still powerful stuff. American politics, just like China's or any other country's, exposes what we're REALLY about.

Like attracts like.

Senile parties nominate senile candidates.

Obama is no more a one-man show than Bush is.

We have seen the kind of men and women the Bush administration's attracted, and what they've done to America, our economy and Constitution. Petty, vindictive, paranoid, controlling, unilateral, faith-based vengeful fanatics. That's the Bush team.

I've no idea who'll be on McCain's or Obama's team.

But I know this.

Obama and his campaign team have shown the muscle, the intelligence and perspective, the political and communicative smarts, the willingness to engage world leaders and actually LISTEN, the ineffable "charisma" . . . ALL of which are lacking in the tired, old, desperatly flailing, lying, snarling McCain campaign being supported by the MSM (CBS just edited out McCain's flagrant lie in an interview with Katie Couric, to protect him).

I had some reservations about Obama and his team early on. The Donnie McClurkin anti-gay bullshit at a gospel fund-raiser, for instance.

They've moved WAY beyond all that.

Obama's tour now positions him as a global figure, and a beloved one, before he's even elected.

No wonder McCain's dribbling in his Depends.

Oil, fuel---what's the big argument about Arkansas Red?

There are many different types of oil--many are used as fuel.

From a CNN news story: "...the oil, widely used as marine fuel, is heavier than diesel but lighter than crude."

Just needed something else to argue about to take everyone's focus off the idiotic mistakes that McCain has made the last few days about the chronology of the Iraq war?

Ever wonder why McCain complains he isn't getting fair coverage by the media? Click at my name!

Thanks, Doc.

Instead of wailing on me, why don't you posit why the Messiah (Peace Be Upon Him) couldn't have made the visit and left the press at the gate?

His Holiness (PBUH) could have easily done that - just as easily as throwing Wes Clark and Jeremiah Wright under the bus or magically having a flag pin on His (PBUH) lapel.

Nope. He (PBUH) chose to neglect the troops.

>>There's a real (not just perceived) antipathy in much of America toward people who are intelligent, well-educated, ambitious to lead, articulate, poised in public-speaking situations, informed, fact-based, honest and charismatic.

The envy and resentment against those who are ambitious, educated and successful are palpable. "Elites!" they scream.<<

Norma, I can assure you I am most apreciative of BO's intelligence, education, speaking ability, etc. You seem to have missed the point. The qualities you point out as resentments are, in fact, the ONLY saving graces I find in Mr. Obama. I've said dozens of times that whatever else I may think of him, at least he is very intelligent and this will hopefully make him successful for us, the American people. I can assure you I don't resent any of the things you listed, without them, I wouldn't be voting for him.

As to the arrogance factor, I'm not alone - many find it palpable. Even the columnist Bob Herbert, a HUGE Obama supporter suggested Thursday on MSNBC that Obama's achilles heel could be hubris. I understand that people who adore him don't see it, but I find it off putting and jarring.

I won't list incidents, like calling the Banking Committee "my banking committee" when, as far as I know, he has nothing to do with that committee - it's the whole aura of knowing it all. If he were a Republican I would call him a brilliant GWB rather than a stupid one, but he's a Democrat, so while I don't like him as a person, I think he is a fantastic candidate and will win in November.

Well, Ci.Ci, I wasn't referring just to you because I know others feel Obama is "arrogant." I just don't know why, I guess, because I haven't seen it. I don't "adore" Obama" and I've just not seen "the whole aura of knowing it all."

Of course, I never understood the whole Bush mystique of, "the kind of guy you'd like to have a beer with in a bar." Are you fucking kidding? I'd have disappeared into the powder room inside 10 seconds if such a jerk sat down beside me. The smirk alone.

Trust me, honey. Men with thin or no lips aren't good kissers, can't dance, and if they can't dance then they can't make love memorably either. It's genetic. Has to do with the number of oscular nerve-endings and innate sense of rhythm.

They ain't got it.