Democrats and abortion
The Democratic Party platform plank on abortion has been written to attract anti-abortion voters. It's had some success, at least among evangelicals who participated in crafting the language. But, make no mistake, the plank remains committed to the availability of legal abortions even as it encourages reducing abortions through health care and education. This column lays out the issue, which has been getting some cable TV attention this week.



Comments
I've been drinking Oelschlaeger since I was 16 and let me tell you: you get hammered and behave badly.
I lost my virginity on Oelschlaeger.
I got it back surgically a year later, but it's not the same.
Speaking of surgery, what's up with Mike Huckabee and his upcoming FOX TV program?
What's up with Mike Huckabee, period?
You could click on the ad (right) about "straight talk about erectile dysfunction" (gays have no clue what this means) . . . or clicky bluename.
Posted by: NormaBates
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August 15, 2008 06:42 AM
Here we go again. We are giving weigh too much repetitive attention to a far right pro-life (before but not after birth) biblical think tank of stupid ideas.
The majority of America are spiritual religious and adamantly pro-choice so why do we make so much effort catering to the minority & freak side.
Hell we have adamant pro-life televangelist preachers and spouses flying around the country "first class" on God collected monies while most of us can't afford to drive first class and a prominent pope preaching ethical standards who was a former "Nazi" and now heads a child-abusing cult.
Posted by: BWC
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August 15, 2008 08:26 AM
I bet Jim Wallis had something to do with this. I believe he is actually pro-life, but he doesn't believe that trying to outlaw abortion is the answer in the current political and social climate. He stresses that we're spending too much time and energy working on trying to get pro-life Supreme Court judges and less time on trying to reduce the number of wanted abortions.
However, I have to disagree with BWC. I think there are a lot more pro-life folks out there that aren't the crazies with signs of aborted fetuses. The difference between religious pro-lifers and pro-choicers is whether or not they think abortion is murder, and that all comes down to a very difficult interpretation of scripture. A friend of mine in seminary recently was talking about how it wasn't abortion he was against, it was murder he was against, and since he felt abortion was murder, he thought the government should do something to try and stop that. I don't think that's too much of a "nutjob" idea.
Posted by: sammy
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August 15, 2008 09:18 AM
Do not lean unto your own understanding the bible said. People try hard to make themselves believe abortion is ok but it is murder in the first degree.
bwc will have to learn someway that he is wrong.
Life is a continuous thing that began when God formed Adam out of the dust of the earth.
Fools, fools, fools, don't confess there is a God and his name is Jesus!
One word in all the languages in the world proves there is a God and that word is ISRAEL !
Posted by: chasv
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August 15, 2008 09:28 AM
sorry, chasv, the Tao's gonna take your god to the woodshed.
Posted by: Amanita
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August 15, 2008 11:11 AM
The war in Iraq is nothing but murder, and if it weren't for right-wing Christians we wouldn't be there.
Our lack of health care is murder, and if it weren't for right-wing Christians we'd help the "least of these."
The death penalty is murder, and if it weren't for right-wing Christians we wouldn't allow the state to kill people. Many of them innocent, I might add.
No, to right-wing Christians like chasv, a dead baby is only useful to the extent they can trade it for a vote or put a picture in a brochure. Otherwise, to hell with it, as we see how little they care for it after it's born.
Posted by: Republicans for Obama
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August 15, 2008 11:42 AM
Do not lean unto your own understanding
Yeah...quit that damn thinking right now! Relax chasv, I think America quit thinking a long time ago, your side is winning hands down.
It's an ugly thing to think about, but most people are against abortion until the wrong someone comes up preggers. Same with the God stuff. Only dinosaurs close to the end like chasv put much thought into God. But even I will probably go ape-shit religious at the first sign of bad heath news. Oh Jesus...heal me heal me heal me! Humans are weak.....there's the whole problem in a wingnut shell.
Posted by: Deathbyinches
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August 15, 2008 11:48 AM
NormaB you old Photoshoping fox! I loved the LavaMike, mashed taters and chicken gravy Huck.
NuHuck looks too homey, like a small town basketball star who stuck around and served on the
City board, head of Jaycees, and is running for mayor. Purple tie is a dead giveaway. Purple is not
Huck. Huck is khaki, casual knit shirt and a korny guitar.
Posted by: eLwood
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August 15, 2008 12:53 PM
WAY TO GO CHASV,
DBI AND ALL YOU NAYSAYERS. YOU ARE SOME KIND OF "SOOFSAYER" DBI. YOU WILL INDEED CRY HEAL ME, IN TIME OF NEED, AND YOU KNOW WHAT, HE WILL HEAR YOU..
WHAT IS THIS REPUBLICANS DONT CARE AFTER BIRTH, JUST THE TRIP TO PLANET EARTH.
YOU HAVE YOUR HEAD WHERE THE SUN DONT SHINE SWEET PEAS. A HUMAN BEING IS ALIVE AND A HUMAN BEING, WITH ALL THE RIGHTS TO LIFE, LIBERTY AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS ALL OF US HAVE THE RIGHT TO, FROM THE MOMENT OF CONCEPTION TILL THEY DIE. THERE IS NO WHERE IN THE CONSTITUTION, OR THE BILL OF RIGHTS THAT SAYS DIFFERENTLY, AND DONT GIVE ME THAT SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE BS, THAT GOOFY THOUGHT CAME FROM A LETTER THOMAS JEFFERSON WROTE TO A CHURCH ELDER. IT IS NOT IN OUR CONSTITUTION. FIND IT AND SHOW IT TO ME.
GOD IS NOT HAPPY WITH US, WE ARE KILLING INNOCENT BABIES, "JUST BECAUSE" AND DONT GIVE ME THAT IRAQUI WAR NUMBER, ITS LOW FOR WHAT OUR TROOPS HAVE GONE THROUGH TO GET TO WHERE THEY ARE. DBI DONT SEE YOUR LAZY ASS VOLOUNTEERING LIKE THEY DID. YOU JUST DONT LIKE PRESIDENT BUSH, BECAUSE HE TELLS HIS FAITH LIKE IT IS AND YOU DUMBOCRATS JUST CANT HANDLE IT, DOESNT MAKE YOU BAD, JUST STUPID. HE HAS AS MUCH RIGHT TO HIS BELIEFS AND TO TALK ABOUT THEM AS YOU DO. OR IS THIS JUST A DEMOCRAT RIGHT.
THANK GOD THERE IS A CHASV ON HERE.
Posted by: LargeAss
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August 15, 2008 01:53 PM
If American talibangelical wing nuts get their way, American women will one day be executed for having a miscarriage. Oh wait, aren't a lot of miscarriages, natural, in a Godly sense, natures inexplicable pill? Immaculate de-conception? Is it okay to pray for a miscarriage as long as God approves it, or simply pray to God thanking her for a miscarriage?
Hospitals are already denying rape victims treatment, even upon request.
Posted by: Eureka Springs, AR
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August 15, 2008 03:05 PM
EUREKA, YOU ARE ON OUR NATIONAL PRAYER CHAIN,
YOU EVIDENTLY HAVE BEEN INHALING THE VITRIOLIC FUMES FROM THE SPEW OF THAT GOOFBALL DBI ON THE WESTERN HILLS OF ARKANSAS TOO LONG. YOU ARE AN LEFTWING LIBERAL OVERTHE DOOR NUT CAKE. THANK GOD MOST OF YOU TOOLS ARE ON THE FORT SMITH SIDE OF THE STATE. WHATEVER YOU ARE SMOKING, SHOOTIN, DRINKIN, INHALIN, WHATEVER., GET SOME GOOD STUFF.. ASK DBI HE KNOWS WHERE THE GOOD STUFF IS. YOU SPEAK AS THO YOU ARE INSANE...
I FIGURE YOU ARE A SOMETIMES CATHOLIC. THEY SPEAK THAT WAY. YOU HAVE HAD SOME EXPOSURE TO THAT FAITH. ALBEIT WASTED ON YOU. (MAYBE NOT, THE VERDICT IS NOT IN YET) YOU PROBABLY HAVE BEEN SUBLIMINALLY BRAINWASHED AND JUST DONT KNOW IT YET.,
MAY THE GOOD LORD SOFTEN YOUR HARD HEART, ALONG WITH DBI, AND THE OTHER LIBERAL LEFT WINGNUTS TAKING TO THE AIR OUT THERE.
Posted by: LargeAss
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August 15, 2008 03:42 PM
I'm betting LargeAss has names scribbled on paper and 14 guns hid in his house too. Someone needs to tip toe around and see if Large lives by himself and has a history of behaving strangely. Actually, it's a sure bet about the history of behaving strangely. And anyone who thinks the number of dead in Iraq is too low and that people have abortions just because.......isn't operating with a full deck of cards.
<---------(thinks our friend LargeAss may be wearing tin foil on his head)
Maybe we could get some of our money back by having these "faith-based" groups go around and check on these older loner white guys. You know, have em go up to the door with a big Bible pretending they want to talk bout the Lord, and while one of them is talking bout Jesus, the other could look around the shack for piles of guns and dolls with names taped on em and pins pushed thru the head and eyes.
A GCP group that goes out every Thursday night like it's regular visitation night and all. God's Crazy Patrol might save a lot of lives across the country. In the mean time we should try to placate these disturbed loners and not get them riled up.
Oh Large! The strangest thing just happened. I got kinda choked and after I hacked and coughed a minute a big loogie came up and suddenly my heart feels softer and and I'm feeling like maybe you and chasv and strangelove are probably alright! I've probably been too hard on the Lord and I'll try harder to lighten up and let some of his rays penetrate my cerebral cortex.
Though I've never gotten anyone pregnant outside of marriage, just to be safe I'm going to wear a condom every time I leave the house from now on. Now that my burden has been lifted, I'm going to take down the dreary old pictures of Satan on my walls and go look for pictures of John McCain to take their place.
Please don't let it upset you all if I use the wise words of a black man....but in the future, at least until the GCP can track your IP number, can't we all just get along? I'm looking in my magic mirror and giving chasv a blessing and LargeAss a blessing and strangelove a blessing. There! Now don't we all feel better? Huh......better?
Posted by: Deathbyinches
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August 15, 2008 04:44 PM
MAY THE GOOD LORD SOFTEN YOUR HARD HEART, ALONG WITH DBI, AND THE OTHER LIBERAL LEFT WINGNUTS TAKING TO THE AIR OUT THERE.<< LARGEASSHOLE
Hey just a minute. I'm only a leftie if it effects me personally. Otherwise, I'm a total Federal Reserve loving $ grabber.
We see what a "soften heart" does for you LARGEASSHOLE. No thanks.
Who in the hell wants to wake up in your condition?
There are fates worse than death!
I could never be that bitter and hateful and neither could DBI who doesn't have a mean bone in his body.
God=money.
Money=god
That is all ye know in USA and all ye need to know.
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Posted by: eLwood
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August 15, 2008 06:31 PM
ITS A SORRY FACT THAT ALL YOU SEEMED CONCERNED ABOUT IS NUMBERS. OVER 4THOUSAND KILLED IN IRAQ, AND OVER 40 MILLION BABIES KILLED IN THE WOMB, OR TRYING TO ESCAPE IT.
HOW WONDERFUL YOU PRIORITIES ARE. NO LIFE IS NOT SACRED. PERIOD. EVEN AFTER BIRTH, MUCH TO YOUR HORRIBLE REMARK ABOUT HOW REPUBLICANS ARE ONLY CONCERNED ABOUT LIFE BEFORE BIRTH. DBI YOU ARE ANATHEMA TO US, AND THE ULTIMATE , SECOND ONLY TO EUREKA, OR NORMA, OR ElWOOD IN THE BLASPHEMY DEPARTMENT. EVEN YOUNG CHILDREN KNOW BETTER. FOR SHAME.
THANK YOU DBI, I DO FEEL BETTER. SORRY YOU DONT. YOU ALL SEEM TO BE SO TESTY WHEN SOMEONE TELLS THE TRUTH, YOU JUST GO BALLISTIC, AND CANT HANDLE IT. ITS COMMON SENSE STUFF. DONT YOU GET IT. MAYBE ONE DAY YOU WILL. ITS NOT AN ACORN, OR A ROCK, OR A RABBIT., ITS A HUMAN BABY, FROM DAY ONE, THAT IS OF COURSE YOU DONT WANT IT, THEN ITS OPEN SEASON, EVEN UP TO THE LAST TRIMESTER. REMEMBER YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO LEARN HOW TO SPELL C SECTION. HAVENT YET I GUESS.
Posted by: LargeAss
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August 16, 2008 09:55 PM