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And what happens when they call the number?

Ulysses Everett McGill: Well, ain't this place a geographical oddity. Two weeks from everywhere!

This assassination was arguably an act of terrorism. With a subpoena, the authorities should be able to get the phone information within hours, not weeks. Why is it taking so long?

Why is it taking so long - GREAT question!! IF it's the LRPD I can tell you why; they are incompetent. When our car was burgled and cell phone among the items stolen, Cingular provided us with a list of numbers called IMMEDIATELY (afternoon of the event). Some were LR, some Chicago. We took the list to the LRPD that same afternoon. NOTHING ever came of their "investigation," including NO contact from them EVER, only us inquiring until we finally gave up.

The LRPD SUCKS!!! NOW, if it's Searcy PD that would explain everything as they're too busy praying and such...
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AND PVN - think they'd try that, doncha?!! Don't bet on it, makes too much sense (common).
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One would think as security crazy as the world is now that Homeland Security would be all over what could possibly be a political killing or even maybe a hate crime. Unless Johnson was from the planet Mars, his computer should have all the info anyone would need to solve this crime. Where is the FBI? We the people need to know why this crime happened.

Checking out the computer should only take a few hours for the most part.. e-mail, documents, browsing history etc. Not rocket science nor time demanding.

I can understand why the computer evidence takes some time to recover. It is difficult to touch a computer without altering the contents of the disk drive, so the drive must be removed and examined in a forensic environment that will not cause any modifications. The chain of custody must be carefully documented. It will take time to sort through the gigabyes of information.

In some cases, it can take time to gather telephone billing records. They may not be stored in a central location.

But finding out who a telephone number is assigned to? That should take the phone company only a few seconds to determine.

I wonder if the owner of the phone number is given advance notification of the subpoena before the information is produced, and given an opportunity to quash it? That is the case for some legal disputes, but it shouldn't be a factor in a murder investigation.

Why is it that reporter types are reluctant to state an obvious fact..."is believed to have shot"...is there any friggin' doubt? He's dead...we don't have to play innocent until proven guilty. Chain of custody? Arkansas Blogger? really...in a case against whom? The killer is friggin dead remember. Everyone keeps looking for a rational reason for an irrational act....IT DON'T EXIST.

Eureka - I'd disagree with "only a few hours" on the computer examination. It could take days or weeks to sort through the massive amount of information in the cache files.

If it takes the phone company two-to-three weeks to figure out a phone number - it must be AT&T. It would be consistent with their crappy level of service in Arkansas, yes?

FortSmithBoy - Johnson probably acted alone, but the investigators should not rule out the possibility of a co-conspirator until they've obtained their evidence. If anyone else was involved, it is essential for the evidence to have a properly-documented chain of custody.

I don't believe anyone else but Johnson was involved, but the investigators should not make that assumption.

What happened to the Channel 11 (I think) report from a fellow student that he laughed at reports of dead Democrats on the web?

These delays smack of a cover up. If the guy were Islamic we'd have his entire life already in the newspaper.

Everyone from personal friends to strangers think there is some type of cover-up going on.....the police, etc. know something but are hiding it for whatever reason. I have been impressed by what Max has been able to "uncover" and then bring heat on people through this blog. How about showing that kind of passion for this case??

And another thing.....what was it hours that we had the cell phone records and tracking for John Glasgow's cell phone??? Just sayin'.

Don't forget that Republicans own most of the major media. If the guy had shot a David O Dodd impersonator, the Dem-Gaz editorial page would be on fire.

Cover up - chain of custody - people's right to know..... Sometimes I laugh when I read some of the stuff on this site... Few points from a cop: 1) the phone companies are covered up with tight assed lawyers that want to review and review and review before they tell their client to release something... (On the case of the missing businessman - the police probably convinced the tight assed lawyer that someone's life was in danger so they decided to release the info-remember, that guy was missing and something bad could have been happening to him at the time)....Not the case here, everyone is dead so the tight assed lawyer wants to review and review... 2) Just call the number - boy, that makes sense - who you going to subpoena (remember there is not going to be a trial) when the guy on the other end of the line says "fuck you", then how you going to get info....3) It sure is easy when you watched a few CSI shows, but in the real world you have to do some police work and that takes time....you, me and all other citizens dont have the right to know shit..... The press thinks they need updates every five minutes on a case where no one is going to be charged so why is it a cover up because the police are working on it and cant tell you anything???? ... . Let the police work on it and find out.. Why go to the family every five minutes and tell them something that you dont know for sure???? I guess we should let you CSI watchers work on it a few days - you know, make a few phone calls - force a few people to give you info - then we would know a few things... The police have done some good work so far on this, let em finish...One last point - I thought it was interesting when the family of the killer released a statement...The last line of the statement said, "We ask the media to give us privacy to deal with this, which is beyond our understanding." ONLY ONE media source (11) showed the whole quote....Most, including the DEMGAZ, 7, 4, FOX, AP left off the last line...Sooooooo, even the sacred media didnt tell you ( the truth needing citizen) the whole story....

"...sacred media...?" WTF - here? You make a point (investigation) AND if anything is sacred here, it sure aint' the media!!!
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When I was a kid I just knew if I could get Superman's cape and skin tight outfit I could cover our neighborhood like a bird of prey and rescue poor widows, become the hero.

I think we've had too much 50 min crime drama on TV . Investigations, laborious autopsies, tedious research and lengthy planning are reduced to minutes, sometimes 20 seconds on Law & Order. Crimes that take months to uncover are done in 20 min, then prosecuted successfully in the following 20 min.
Why is it that none of our assumed delays are bothering MaxB? He's likely covered more investigations for real than the rest of us have watched faux investigations on TV. It's often a lengthy process, covering one detail after another, preserving evidence. Hell, the police are people.

But, walkin, I must wonder why all those phone lawyers would just lay down for Bush on wire taps? False assurances? Threats?
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Cop flack Terry Hastings says in today's DOG that they don't know whose number that is on the Post-It note and that police haven't called that number.

Why the hell not?

And why didn't the reporter ask, Why the hell not?

ARK. BLOG: I asked. Here's the thinking: The police can't rule out -- though nobody believes it -- that Johnson didn't act alone. Thus they want to take a methodical approach to locating the owner of that phone. What if, out of the blue, they call the number and it tips off the co-conspirator that they are on his trail, see? Far-fetched, I know. But that's the explanation.

elwood - probably because they didnt want to get their personal income taxes audited!!! Remember, lawyers aint stupid - Larry, the last line of my rant was a joke... Sacred media, thats got to sound funny to you! But, why would they all leave off a line that blast them for dogging the crap out of an innocent bunch of relatives...I will tell you - because they can...Who is going to file an FOI request on the media to ask why they didnt release something (never heard of that one)....???

Thank you, Max.

The AP, D-G, KATV and Fox 16 and are plenty big enough to defend themselves, Walkinsmall, but those four certainly DID run the Johnson family's statement in its entirety when it was released: the AP wire on Friday night upon release; KATV and Fox 16 on Friday evening; and by the D-G in its Saturday edition. The KARK website offers only a partial statement, and I have no idea what they actually aired.

That was a poignant part of the statement, and I can't imagine it being ignored.

That's my CSI probe of the media's workings, thank you very much.

We're a state of utter buffoons (present company within this blog excepted).

"Who is going to file an FOI request on the media to ask why they didnt release something (never heard of that one)....???"

FOI request of the press is a great idea.

The FOIA does not apply to private people, entities, or businesses (unless the business generates a very substantial percentage of it's income from state/Federal funds); and certainly not to the media. And it shouldn't. As much as our little old lady/nosy Nellie side wants to know every little juicy, gossipy fact; private people and private business is just that. Private. This is America. The majority does not rule the private affairs of men or women. And it shouldn't. America was founded by very independent men and women. Men and women who wanted to flee the tyranny of too many people in their (private) business (to put it in a modern vernacular). Our desire to know and our right to know do not flow from related philosophical fountains.

The investigation will never come to the real cause of the murder, until they look the the list of side effects of Effexor. So lets take a look at the Nervous system first. These would affect the mind. Isn't this a fun list?
http://www.fda.gov/cder/foi/label/2007/020151s043,020699s069lbl.pdf
Nervous system - Frequent: amnesia, confusion, depersonalization, hypesthesia, thinking
abnormal, trismus, vertigo; Infrequent: akathisia, apathy, ataxia, circumoral paresthesia, CNS
stimulation, emotional lability, euphoria, hallucinations, hostility, hyperesthesia, hyperkinesia,
hypotonia, incoordination, manic reaction, myoclonus, neuralgia, neuropathy, psychosis, seizure,
abnormal speech, stupor, suicidal ideation; Rare: abnormal/changed behavior, adjustment
disorder, akinesia, alcohol abuse, aphasia, bradykinesia, buccoglossal syndrome, cerebrovascular
accident, feeling drunk, loss of consciousness, delusions, dementia, dystonia, energy increased,
facial paralysis, abnormal gait, Guillain-Barre Syndrome, homicidal ideation, hyperchlorhydria,
hypokinesia, hysteria, impulse control difficulties, libido increased, motion sickness, neuritis,
nystagmus, paranoid reaction, paresis, psychotic depression, reflexes decreased, reflexes
increased, torticollis.