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miss hillary says she is all for unity within the demo party. She is also having people at the convention to hand out miss hillary signs to wave during the nomination process. Do I smell a contradiction here?
Why does the media refer to the amendment to ban adoption by unmarried people as the "amendment to ban GAY adoptions?" While I realize that is the group's goal, the amendment bans unmarried and single straight people from adopting too. It will ban more straight unmarried couples and straight singles than gay couples and singles.
ARK. BLOG: Thank you. I've made that point with the Associated Press. It has declined to express the amendment as it is written, preferring to focus on the main aim of the backers of the amendment.
She may also steal the nomination from him. I think that a most honest answer would be that she is laying the groundwork for 2012 at his expense. Emphasizing that a sizeable number of democrats prefer miss hillary to obama in NO way promotes unity.
Lou Dobbs reported tonight that 50% of Hillary's supporters do not support Obama and that, in fact, 20% of them openly support McCain. What's wrong with these fool Democrats? Can't imagine this: Tain't a bigger Hillary supporter on the planet, including Bill, than my sainted live-in of 36 years; but she'll be voting for Obama in November and not even holding her nose while doing it.
Durango, the 20% are "Reagan Democrats." That's why Obama needs to pick Clark as his VP or Hillary. While he may not admit it, Clark was a Reagan Democrat so he can appeal to them.
strangelove - Hillary won't try to steal the nomination, despite her supporters' wishes. She's not that dumb. She lost her last hope when the Rules & Bylaws Committee awarded some delegates from Michigan and Florida to Obama.
In fact, I expect that she'll lose some more superdelegates in the roll call. They'll jump ship to Obama, he'll do better than expected, and that will disappoint her supporters even more. And as the final indignity, the Clinton delegates will be locked out from any meaningful participation in the things that matter. With the great schism between the two camps, Howard Dean isn't going to take any chances of upsetting his carefully-orchestrated facade of unity.
It appears that Hillary will not be repaid on her $13 million personal loan to her campaign, unless it is done in the next three weeks or so. If Obama can find a way to help her repay the loan, that will be a strong incentive for her to help him. If Obama doesn't come through with the money, I wouldn't expect any cooperation from her at all, aside from a couple of perfunctory appearances with him in New York.
The Lions Club there held their annual fish fry, and Mike Ross (DINO-4th AR) was in attendance. Someone asked a couple of questions of him, the last one being that concerning the Employment Non-Discrimination Act. He voted against it because *it went too far*.....
That bill, btw was the gutted and watered down version sponsored by Barney Frank that removed protections for Gender Identity and Expression. And Mike Ross considers himself a "Democrat".
This is one fellow "ham" that won't be voting for Ross
I'll be voting for Joshua Drake and *not* holding my nose.
>>>miss hillary says she is all for unity within the demo party. She is also having people at the convention to hand out miss hillary signs to wave during the nomination process. Do I smell a contradiction here?<<<
eark, I think you've got it right, but I'm not optimistic that it'll be Hillary of the gen'rl.
"Meanwhile down in Grady AR...."
Are the Keaheys and Drehers and Rogers and Ivesters and Lovetts still down there in them parts, Ms_Haley_1965? Good people; or were when I met 'em here in the rock several lifetimes ago. And what's the timetable for the U.S. 65 bypass around Grady?
I just love it when Arkansans think about the presidential race as if AR matters to the Obama math. Calling Biden a liberal yankee? I guess it's only bad when a yankee votes away bankruptcy protections, not when our own do it. To bad that yankee isn't all about torture and needless global genocide.. he only wants to split Iraq into three pieces.. not just continuously bomb it into oblivion without trying new things. Such a liberal he is. /s
I guess voting against the AUMF in the first place makes him unacceptable. Damn the liberal votes, especially when they are right.
Look in the AR mirror, eark. Ain't no way any of our AR Dems could (or show any intention of trying to) help a national ticket, unless they were trying to help McCain. AR Dems won't even try to challenge Boozeman. We have nothing to offer... and yet so many complain because they are now ignored.
That said, I do think the Obama campaign should have opened a few offices in AR by now, if for no other reason than to have a few places for phone banks and to hand out yard signs etc.
You want to help Dems on a national scale.. support Green votes in AR this year. It's way past time AR Dems look in the mirror and clean out their own disasters.
Perhaps I don't understand the political process as intricately as snidely strange. Nearly half of the people who voted in the primary elections chose Hillary Clinton. Shouldn't they have their evening of recognition, waving signs and cheering for their candidate? How is that a deviously divisive scheme? It's only fair. It's been convention tradition for decades.
Isn't it about time that we started acting like adults about the election process instead of like spiteful six-graders hanging on every syllable of malicious gossip?
I realize that strange's only reason for posting on this blog is to make insinuations and misinterpretations and lies in order to sow discord among the Democrats ... and some of you have taken the bait. For shame.
Of course, all of this convention folderol means nothing to me. We chose OUR Presidential/VP ticket 6 weeks ago - Cynthia McKinney and Rosa Clemente for the Green Party. A fun convention was had by all. I hope the same for the Democrats in Denver. However, a plague on the Twin Cities' Xcel Center though.
TPM -- Josh has a story up that the McCains have a budget of $273,000 for household servants. A quarter million for servants!!! That's the cut off for Obama raising taxes.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/209623.php
What neocons and McCain really want to do to the UN.. end it!!
ES I wasn't even thinking of Arkansas as winnable. I don't think Obama could win Arkansas with Hillary or Clark on the ticket. I happen to personally like most all of the northeast liberals but swing voters have shown they don't. Clark, unlike Biden, would help in VA and other toss up states.
Strange definition of UNITY. Let's nominate someone else other than barama----we're really not serious about it. We just need to let out our pent up frustration. We need to vent our emotions. I guess when you are dealing with broads you got to play the game. Yea, that is my definition of unity.
Oh why worry about wars, price of gas/food/everything, the next POTUS, dirty water/air,
poison food, fat people, global warming, crime, child abuse, cancer, the second coming,
etc................................
I just had an email that Paris Hilton is pregnant by aliens........
eark, I think Obama has VA. I think Biden might help in NH, PA, DE... won't hurt in Indiana or Ohio, but won't help a great deal either.
Not a big Biden fan myself, but the quick yankee slur ain't helpful, imo. And at least he demonstrates more than a modicum of thought in re foreign policy. He's also doing a much better job of rebuttals and attacks on GOPers these days. Which Dems need much more of, imo.
Veronica Lake, featured early in your video, jazzy, was well known in the WWII era and her hair style was her trademark. But many women worked in the war industries and they copied Lake's hair style and some were injured when their long hair got caught in the industrial machinery they were using, suffering injuries and Miss Lake was encouraged to change her hair style for "patriotic" reasons.
And bombshell Rita Hayworth died from Alzheimers in 1987. Quite sad.
It sounds like Barack Obama's challenge is to select a running mate who's young, hip, and whose accomplishments in life don't overshadow Obama's. Please allow me to suggest Kevin Federline. He fits right in with the state of the Democrat party right now.
Perplexed, beats hell out of me........took me 5 years to learn how to turn the dang
machine ON................no, not really,,,,,but, I went thru a few stupid years, spent a
pile of money, talked to a lot of Indians, whined, cried, abused my family n friends, broke
up furniture, contemplated suicide...........
its another damn addiction.
This has been a great day for Obama. McCain and his 48 houses, quarter of a million for servants, and then agreeing with the woman who said the draft should be reinstated. Plus his left jaw is really a whopper today. He's looking more and more like Bella Lugosi. Muhammad Ali throws his support to Obama, Toby Keith throws his support to Obama, the number of Hillary supporters who say they won't vote for Obama is shrinking. It's been a great day for Obama.
And very very soon we'll find out who he's picked for his running mate. I still say it's Hillary. No Biden for me thanks. The others on the list make me instantly fall asleep. Obama is smart, he's not going to get him a Dan Quayle or Joe LIEberman or a Dick Cheney. Our black FDR is at hand. If he's still alive on election day the Republicans will be slaughtered. So encase Barry in a 2 foot thick bullet proof cubical, remember to cut an air hole and if they need volunteers to be his food tasters......sign me up! It's been a great day for Obama!
Be careful,deeb.. like the number of Cindy's sibling went up all week.. 48 McHouses may be a low estimate. *g*
I'll place a ten dollar last minute long shot bet on Obamas VP. Mark Warner of Virginia. ( And I still like the Gov. of Montana, but I don't think he's even a long shot). If I win, Ruben's and cold beers are on me Saturday night.
Also recommended read, particularly for dbi and elwood tonight and zelda in the morning if she sees this.
It's a longish piece but boy does it nail a lot... and it nails both D's and R's rightfully so, imo.
I agree that Arkansas is lost to the Democrats as long as Obama is on the ticket at all, so to consider someone who might pull in Arkansas is, IMO a waste of time. There are just too many backward people here who readily believe anything they hear about someone they are predisposed to dislike. I don't get the "Obama is a Muslim" emails anymore, but I do get the "ultra-liberal Obama stuff now. Also, one "Christian" from a nearby city who used to send the muslim mail, now just openly attacks the Black part of Obama's resume. He sent the overflowing with stuff and Black people pick up truck picture jokingly referring to the Obama family moving into the WH. Yesterday, he sent one about 'proud to be white' - a stupid concoction about pride for African Americans so why not pride in 'real' Americans. People like him represent too much of the Arkansas population and without a moderate political background that favors the middle class while not upsetting their notion of class distinction, they won't vote for a 'far out lib' especially if he's not white.
I know Hillary could help Obama, but I don't want her on the ticket. If Obama wins, the Clintons shouldn't be on the bottom of the ticket, and if McCain destroys Obama and he loses, I wouldn't want him to take the Clintons (our only successful presidency in many years) down with him. It would be nice to learn he discussed it with Hillary and she said no............I hope he goes with Joe Biden. I don't think an unknown to the public, will help him at all, and most people never heard of the governors of other states, so I hope he forgets that idea and goes with someone well known all over, like Biden.
The Clintons should help all they can, and they will do that, but not be part of the ticket. In 4 or 8 yrs (depending on whether Obama wins or loses), Hillary could try again if she chooses (I wouldn't), but for now I hope she is content to go back to being the Senator from NY.
"I've had a great relationship [with Indian Americans]," Biden said. "In Delaware, the largest growth in population is Indian-Americans moving from India. You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I'm not joking."
calling Obama "articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy"
"Joe Biden and Neil Kinnock"
"I think I have a much higher IQ than you do."
"Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr., in his first 12 minutes of questioning the nominee, managed to get off only one question. Instead, during his 30-minute round of questioning, Biden spoke about his own Irish American roots, his "Grandfather Finnegan," his son's application to Princeton (he attended the University of Pennsylvania instead, Biden said), a speech the senator gave on the Princeton campus, the fact that Biden is "not a Princeton fan," and his views on the eyeglasses of Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.)."
"Obama's campaign message is that if Americans want to change their government, then they have to change the people they send to Washington."
Joe Biden is not well known outside of the political world. Clinton or Clark would help Obama in other states besides Arkansas. If he wants to win, he'll pick one of them.
Thrown a bone
Date: 7/2/2009
By:
Gerard Matthews
When the General Assembly passed a law earlier this year to make acts of aggravated animal cruelty a felony in Arkansas, Kay Simpson, director of the Humane Society of Pulaski County, cried.
/more/
Will fill job
Date: 7/2/2009
By:
Arkansas Times Staff
Dan O'Byrne, informed by e-mails from City Director Ken Richardson that it was high time the CEO of the Little Rock Convention and Visitors Bureau filled the director of diversity sales position, said Monday a national search will begin once the city's human resources office approves the job description.
/more/
That was him, this is me
Date: 7/2/2009
By:
Arkansas Times Staff
When Bill Clinton was president and Mark Sanford was in Congress, the South Carolina representative and moralist was unforgiving of Clinton's marital misconduct.
/more/
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miss hillary says she is all for unity within the demo party. She is also having people at the convention to hand out miss hillary signs to wave during the nomination process. Do I smell a contradiction here?
Posted by: strangelove
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August 21, 2008 05:36 PM
No contradiction at all. That is the normal practice. Besides for all you know she might just be Obama's VP pick.
Posted by: eark
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August 21, 2008 06:00 PM
Why is it that the DemGaz charges $12 for what it advertizes as "free ads?"
Posted by: Kat Robinson
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August 21, 2008 06:00 PM
QUESTION:
Why does the media refer to the amendment to ban adoption by unmarried people as the "amendment to ban GAY adoptions?" While I realize that is the group's goal, the amendment bans unmarried and single straight people from adopting too. It will ban more straight unmarried couples and straight singles than gay couples and singles.
ARK. BLOG: Thank you. I've made that point with the Associated Press. It has declined to express the amendment as it is written, preferring to focus on the main aim of the backers of the amendment.
Posted by: eark
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August 21, 2008 06:03 PM
She may also steal the nomination from him. I think that a most honest answer would be that she is laying the groundwork for 2012 at his expense. Emphasizing that a sizeable number of democrats prefer miss hillary to obama in NO way promotes unity.
Posted by: strangelove
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August 21, 2008 06:08 PM
A lot of activity at the Biden home, arrival of Joe's mother and brother,,,,,MSNBC.
Posted by: jazzy
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August 21, 2008 06:08 PM
Just what the ticket needs (Biden). Another northeast liberal. Well, I guess it's not like we have any chance of winning southern states anyway.
Posted by: eark
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August 21, 2008 06:21 PM
JUST SAY NO to Biden...I have no reason NOT to vote for Obama, please don't give me one!
Posted by: bejeeus
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August 21, 2008 06:30 PM
Lou Dobbs reported tonight that 50% of Hillary's supporters do not support Obama and that, in fact, 20% of them openly support McCain. What's wrong with these fool Democrats? Can't imagine this: Tain't a bigger Hillary supporter on the planet, including Bill, than my sainted live-in of 36 years; but she'll be voting for Obama in November and not even holding her nose while doing it.
Posted by: durangokid
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August 21, 2008 06:33 PM
OH LORD! I'm hearing strangleLuv voices again...help me Jesus!
Posted by: bejeeus
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August 21, 2008 06:39 PM
Durango, the 20% are "Reagan Democrats." That's why Obama needs to pick Clark as his VP or Hillary. While he may not admit it, Clark was a Reagan Democrat so he can appeal to them.
Posted by: eark
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August 21, 2008 06:41 PM
strangelove - Hillary won't try to steal the nomination, despite her supporters' wishes. She's not that dumb. She lost her last hope when the Rules & Bylaws Committee awarded some delegates from Michigan and Florida to Obama.
In fact, I expect that she'll lose some more superdelegates in the roll call. They'll jump ship to Obama, he'll do better than expected, and that will disappoint her supporters even more. And as the final indignity, the Clinton delegates will be locked out from any meaningful participation in the things that matter. With the great schism between the two camps, Howard Dean isn't going to take any chances of upsetting his carefully-orchestrated facade of unity.
It appears that Hillary will not be repaid on her $13 million personal loan to her campaign, unless it is done in the next three weeks or so. If Obama can find a way to help her repay the loan, that will be a strong incentive for her to help him. If Obama doesn't come through with the money, I wouldn't expect any cooperation from her at all, aside from a couple of perfunctory appearances with him in New York.
Posted by: Arkansas Blogger
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August 21, 2008 07:03 PM
Meanwhile down in Grady AR....
The Lions Club there held their annual fish fry, and Mike Ross (DINO-4th AR) was in attendance. Someone asked a couple of questions of him, the last one being that concerning the Employment Non-Discrimination Act. He voted against it because *it went too far*.....
That bill, btw was the gutted and watered down version sponsored by Barney Frank that removed protections for Gender Identity and Expression. And Mike Ross considers himself a "Democrat".
This is one fellow "ham" that won't be voting for Ross
I'll be voting for Joshua Drake and *not* holding my nose.
Posted by: Ms_Haley_1965
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August 21, 2008 07:09 PM
>>>miss hillary says she is all for unity within the demo party. She is also having people at the convention to hand out miss hillary signs to wave during the nomination process. Do I smell a contradiction here?<<<
No, you're smelling your upper lip.
Posted by: LAJ-Hillcrest
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August 21, 2008 07:20 PM
eark, I think you've got it right, but I'm not optimistic that it'll be Hillary of the gen'rl.
"Meanwhile down in Grady AR...."
Are the Keaheys and Drehers and Rogers and Ivesters and Lovetts still down there in them parts, Ms_Haley_1965? Good people; or were when I met 'em here in the rock several lifetimes ago. And what's the timetable for the U.S. 65 bypass around Grady?
Posted by: durangokid
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August 21, 2008 07:32 PM
She may also steal the nomination from him.<<< strangelove
Ok, you've been posting this for awhile. Cash talks and bullshit walks.
What odds do you need to put up a $1000 wager?
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Posted by: eLwood
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August 21, 2008 07:33 PM
You peeps are CRACKING me up!!!!
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Posted by: Larry
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August 21, 2008 07:53 PM
Wow the new revelations about Lu Hardin are very shocking!
Posted by: thenaturalstate
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August 21, 2008 08:18 PM
I just love it when Arkansans think about the presidential race as if AR matters to the Obama math. Calling Biden a liberal yankee? I guess it's only bad when a yankee votes away bankruptcy protections, not when our own do it. To bad that yankee isn't all about torture and needless global genocide.. he only wants to split Iraq into three pieces.. not just continuously bomb it into oblivion without trying new things. Such a liberal he is. /s
I guess voting against the AUMF in the first place makes him unacceptable. Damn the liberal votes, especially when they are right.
Look in the AR mirror, eark. Ain't no way any of our AR Dems could (or show any intention of trying to) help a national ticket, unless they were trying to help McCain. AR Dems won't even try to challenge Boozeman. We have nothing to offer... and yet so many complain because they are now ignored.
That said, I do think the Obama campaign should have opened a few offices in AR by now, if for no other reason than to have a few places for phone banks and to hand out yard signs etc.
You want to help Dems on a national scale.. support Green votes in AR this year. It's way past time AR Dems look in the mirror and clean out their own disasters.
Posted by: Eureka Springs, AR
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August 21, 2008 08:33 PM
I wouldn't waste 1 cent on hillary clinton.
Posted by: strangelove
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August 21, 2008 08:38 PM
Upcoming crisis. Click on Cato, of course.
Posted by: Cato
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August 21, 2008 08:43 PM
Perhaps I don't understand the political process as intricately as snidely strange. Nearly half of the people who voted in the primary elections chose Hillary Clinton. Shouldn't they have their evening of recognition, waving signs and cheering for their candidate? How is that a deviously divisive scheme? It's only fair. It's been convention tradition for decades.
Isn't it about time that we started acting like adults about the election process instead of like spiteful six-graders hanging on every syllable of malicious gossip?
I realize that strange's only reason for posting on this blog is to make insinuations and misinterpretations and lies in order to sow discord among the Democrats ... and some of you have taken the bait. For shame.
Of course, all of this convention folderol means nothing to me. We chose OUR Presidential/VP ticket 6 weeks ago - Cynthia McKinney and Rosa Clemente for the Green Party. A fun convention was had by all. I hope the same for the Democrats in Denver. However, a plague on the Twin Cities' Xcel Center though.
Posted by: Jim Lendall
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August 21, 2008 08:46 PM
TPM -- Josh has a story up that the McCains have a budget of $273,000 for household servants. A quarter million for servants!!! That's the cut off for Obama raising taxes.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/209623.php
What neocons and McCain really want to do to the UN.. end it!!
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/johann-hari/johann-hari-john-mccain-and-his-secretive-plot-to-kill-the-un-903998.html
Booman has good piece on McCain too.
http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2008/8/21/205234/781
Posted by: Eureka Springs, AR
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August 21, 2008 08:57 PM
ES I wasn't even thinking of Arkansas as winnable. I don't think Obama could win Arkansas with Hillary or Clark on the ticket. I happen to personally like most all of the northeast liberals but swing voters have shown they don't. Clark, unlike Biden, would help in VA and other toss up states.
Posted by: eark
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August 21, 2008 09:14 PM
Strange definition of UNITY. Let's nominate someone else other than barama----we're really not serious about it. We just need to let out our pent up frustration. We need to vent our emotions. I guess when you are dealing with broads you got to play the game. Yea, that is my definition of unity.
Posted by: strangelove
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August 21, 2008 09:21 PM
Oh why worry about wars, price of gas/food/everything, the next POTUS, dirty water/air,
poison food, fat people, global warming, crime, child abuse, cancer, the second coming,
etc................................
I just had an email that Paris Hilton is pregnant by aliens........
Now,,,that will keep me awake all night.
Posted by: jazzy
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August 21, 2008 09:52 PM
eark, I think Obama has VA. I think Biden might help in NH, PA, DE... won't hurt in Indiana or Ohio, but won't help a great deal either.
Not a big Biden fan myself, but the quick yankee slur ain't helpful, imo. And at least he demonstrates more than a modicum of thought in re foreign policy. He's also doing a much better job of rebuttals and attacks on GOPers these days. Which Dems need much more of, imo.
Posted by: Eureka Springs, AR
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August 21, 2008 10:04 PM
Oh heck, why not???????????
clicky
Posted by: jazzy
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August 21, 2008 10:13 PM
Veronica Lake, featured early in your video, jazzy, was well known in the WWII era and her hair style was her trademark. But many women worked in the war industries and they copied Lake's hair style and some were injured when their long hair got caught in the industrial machinery they were using, suffering injuries and Miss Lake was encouraged to change her hair style for "patriotic" reasons.
And bombshell Rita Hayworth died from Alzheimers in 1987. Quite sad.
Posted by: Cato
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August 21, 2008 10:26 PM
Putin.
Clicky
Posted by: Cato
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August 21, 2008 10:48 PM
It sounds like Barack Obama's challenge is to select a running mate who's young, hip, and whose accomplishments in life don't overshadow Obama's. Please allow me to suggest Kevin Federline. He fits right in with the state of the Democrat party right now.
Posted by: Catfish Eater
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August 21, 2008 10:54 PM
Jazzy, that was great! Thanks! Where do these folks get the time to do these videos?
Posted by: Perplexed
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August 21, 2008 10:57 PM
Good one Cato,,,how could idiotmoron preach to anyone is beyond me.
I was a little girl but have a vague memory of V. Lake with that long blonde hair over
one eye.
.....and, who could forget Rita in *Gilda?*
I've made no secret that my name is Patricia so, like to think all songs written for that
Irish lass are for me..............:-)
Posted by: jazzy
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August 21, 2008 11:04 PM
Perplexed, beats hell out of me........took me 5 years to learn how to turn the dang
machine ON................no, not really,,,,,but, I went thru a few stupid years, spent a
pile of money, talked to a lot of Indians, whined, cried, abused my family n friends, broke
up furniture, contemplated suicide...........
its another damn addiction.
Posted by: jazzy
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August 21, 2008 11:24 PM
This has been a great day for Obama. McCain and his 48 houses, quarter of a million for servants, and then agreeing with the woman who said the draft should be reinstated. Plus his left jaw is really a whopper today. He's looking more and more like Bella Lugosi. Muhammad Ali throws his support to Obama, Toby Keith throws his support to Obama, the number of Hillary supporters who say they won't vote for Obama is shrinking. It's been a great day for Obama.
And very very soon we'll find out who he's picked for his running mate. I still say it's Hillary. No Biden for me thanks. The others on the list make me instantly fall asleep. Obama is smart, he's not going to get him a Dan Quayle or Joe LIEberman or a Dick Cheney. Our black FDR is at hand. If he's still alive on election day the Republicans will be slaughtered. So encase Barry in a 2 foot thick bullet proof cubical, remember to cut an air hole and if they need volunteers to be his food tasters......sign me up! It's been a great day for Obama!
Posted by: Deathbyinches
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August 22, 2008 12:07 AM
Be careful,deeb.. like the number of Cindy's sibling went up all week.. 48 McHouses may be a low estimate. *g*
I'll place a ten dollar last minute long shot bet on Obamas VP. Mark Warner of Virginia. ( And I still like the Gov. of Montana, but I don't think he's even a long shot). If I win, Ruben's and cold beers are on me Saturday night.
Also recommended read, particularly for dbi and elwood tonight and zelda in the morning if she sees this.
It's a longish piece but boy does it nail a lot... and it nails both D's and R's rightfully so, imo.
http://agonist.org/stirling_newberry/20080821/the_bell_tolls_for_us_ii
Posted by: Eureka Springs, AR
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August 22, 2008 12:39 AM
>>I just love it when Arkansans think about the presidential race as if AR matters to the Obama math.<<
Tell that to Al Gore.
It doesn't matter if you assume BHO will have enough money to win by a 6-7% majority.
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Posted by: eLwood
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August 22, 2008 03:41 AM
ES I never called him a Yankee. You are the only one to say Yankee.
Posted by: eark
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August 22, 2008 04:26 AM
I agree that Arkansas is lost to the Democrats as long as Obama is on the ticket at all, so to consider someone who might pull in Arkansas is, IMO a waste of time. There are just too many backward people here who readily believe anything they hear about someone they are predisposed to dislike. I don't get the "Obama is a Muslim" emails anymore, but I do get the "ultra-liberal Obama stuff now. Also, one "Christian" from a nearby city who used to send the muslim mail, now just openly attacks the Black part of Obama's resume. He sent the overflowing with stuff and Black people pick up truck picture jokingly referring to the Obama family moving into the WH. Yesterday, he sent one about 'proud to be white' - a stupid concoction about pride for African Americans so why not pride in 'real' Americans. People like him represent too much of the Arkansas population and without a moderate political background that favors the middle class while not upsetting their notion of class distinction, they won't vote for a 'far out lib' especially if he's not white.
I know Hillary could help Obama, but I don't want her on the ticket. If Obama wins, the Clintons shouldn't be on the bottom of the ticket, and if McCain destroys Obama and he loses, I wouldn't want him to take the Clintons (our only successful presidency in many years) down with him. It would be nice to learn he discussed it with Hillary and she said no............I hope he goes with Joe Biden. I don't think an unknown to the public, will help him at all, and most people never heard of the governors of other states, so I hope he forgets that idea and goes with someone well known all over, like Biden.
The Clintons should help all they can, and they will do that, but not be part of the ticket. In 4 or 8 yrs (depending on whether Obama wins or loses), Hillary could try again if she chooses (I wouldn't), but for now I hope she is content to go back to being the Senator from NY.
Posted by: Ci.Ci
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August 22, 2008 07:44 AM
"I've had a great relationship [with Indian Americans]," Biden said. "In Delaware, the largest growth in population is Indian-Americans moving from India. You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I'm not joking."
calling Obama "articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy"
"Joe Biden and Neil Kinnock"
"I think I have a much higher IQ than you do."
"Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr., in his first 12 minutes of questioning the nominee, managed to get off only one question. Instead, during his 30-minute round of questioning, Biden spoke about his own Irish American roots, his "Grandfather Finnegan," his son's application to Princeton (he attended the University of Pennsylvania instead, Biden said), a speech the senator gave on the Princeton campus, the fact that Biden is "not a Princeton fan," and his views on the eyeglasses of Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.)."
"Obama's campaign message is that if Americans want to change their government, then they have to change the people they send to Washington."
CLICK
Posted by: bejeeus
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August 22, 2008 08:27 AM
Joe Biden is not well known outside of the political world. Clinton or Clark would help Obama in other states besides Arkansas. If he wants to win, he'll pick one of them.
Posted by: eark
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August 22, 2008 11:11 AM