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Faces in the crowd

Color from a Palin rally:

McCain had said that racially explosive attacks related to Obama's former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, are off limits. But Palin told New York Times columnist Bill Kristol in an interview published Monday: "I don't know why that association isn't discussed more."

Worse, Palin's routine attacks on the media have begun to spill into ugliness. In Clearwater, arriving reporters were greeted with shouts and taunts by the crowd of about 3,000. Palin then went on to blame Katie Couric's questions for her "less-than-successful interview with kinda mainstream media." At that, Palin supporters turned on reporters in the press area, waving thunder sticks and shouting abuse. Others hurled obscenities at a camera crew. One Palin supporter shouted a racial epithet at an African American sound man for a network and told him, "Sit down, boy."

And, further, from TPM:

So we have McCain today getting his crowd riled up asking who Barack Obama is and then apparently giving a wink and a nod when one member of the crowd screams out "terrorist."

And later we have Sarah Palin with the same mob racket, getting members of the crowd to yell out "kill him", though it's not clear whether the call for murder was for Bill Ayers or Barack Obama. It didn't seem to matter.

These are dangerous and sick people, McCain and Palin. Whatever it takes. Stop at nothing.

Comment from Greg Sargent at TPM on Palin's blaming media for her depiction:

Palin's ugly attacks, her non-stop lying, and her glaring buffoonery and incompetence are all the media's fault! It is pretty outrageous, this liberal media conspiracy to report accurately on what Palin says and does as she asks us to put her a heartbeat away from being steward of our troubled economy and controlling the most powerful military in human history.

And there's the irreverent Wonkette on the ugly Palin crowd in Florida:

Ignorant clown Sarah Palin is the laughing stock of the Entire World, which means her only remaining value to the McCain campaign is to yell racist crap at mouth-breathing old wingnuts, in white Florida suburbs, so that at least those people will possibly remember to go to the polls on November 4 … because otherwise the Negroes will make “Ebonics” be the National Anthem and require all white trash kids to listen to Hip Hop. Oh wait, too late on that last point.

 

 

 

Comments

The Republicans have no shame, no morals, no ethics.

They would vote for Hitler if he ran on the GOP ticket.

Threats to kill the opposing candidate are, if not applauded, certainly accepted.

White trash, all of them.

White trash who would've gladly tortured slaves for Davis, Jews for Hitler, or intellectuals for Stalin.

If I've said it once I've said it a thousand times. The Republicans are baiting the Dems into a fight that's not worth fighting. These radical right wingers will not be swung. Focus on the independents instead of playing to the soap opera. Strike up a dialogue with candidates who are talking sense. That's the only way to get my vote. What's that? You don't want my vote?

The Republican Party is imploding to that nasty core which has been at its center since Barry Goldwater and Saint Ronnie combined with George Wallace to put the fearful racists of the south in harness for the country club rich. Their leaders are buffoons, and their political and economic ideas have been given a full and fair trial, and look how well that has worked out for us.

Perhaps, just perhaps, now that McSame and Moosejaw have made the mistake of spitting in the eye of the millionaire mainstream media, there will be enough light shined that the uncrippled portion of the American electorate can see the core for the nasty piece of work it has always been, and will send it scurrying back into the closet for a generation.

I'm getting old. I can't afford to have Republicans in charge any more.

Sounds like some of the liberal protesters at the RNC....

I'm not surprised one bit; I've known for sometime 'these' people hate hate and hate. They are the witch burners...and if not witches, anyone different, anyone not wired to blindly follow the current bully gets the torch.

Of course, Rod, the Dems should rise above the hate crap. But not rise so far we can't slap them (figuratively, of course) for their sickening displays of hate/violence...just as elementary school children are taught that certain behavior isn't tolerated in a civil society.

That's a hoot, coming on ATB:

"I'm not surprised one bit; I've known for sometime 'these' people hate hate and hate. They are the witch burners...and if not witches, anyone different, anyone not wired to blindly follow the current bully gets the torch. "

"That's a hoot, coming on ATB:"
by: mudturtle

Your hooters are for...

"the crowd screams out "terrorist."

the crowd to yell out "kill him"

Palin's ugly attacks, her non-stop lying, and her glaring buffoonery and incompetence are all the media's fault!

Ignorant clown Sarah Palin is the laughing stock of the Entire World"

...please elaborate ?!?!?!?!


"Dreams from my father..." and "Audacity of Hope". Both are compelling testaments to Obama's desent into the world of a race obssessed malcontent. His wife Michelle shares the same disjointed views of her country, which she elucidates in her senior thesis at Princeton. The theme is the same. America is a racist, hate-filled nation run by rich white people to the exclusion of opportunity for Blacks. Even Obama's own Grandparents, whom raised him in a life of abundance, become suspect. Frank Marshall Davis, a Black communist was an early mentor whom influenced much of Obama's worldview...which he carries to this day. Except that he has since become adept at obscuring it for political expediency.

"...The theme is the same. America is a racist, hate-filled nation run by rich white people to the exclusion of opportunity for Blacks..."--sidney

So what's wrong with the truth?

(But I'd add 'to the exclusion of opportunity for everyone who doesn't look like/think like them.')

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What "sidney" is posting are lies straight from World Net Daily. It's good we have simps like sidney to remind what the Palinites are about.

Frank Marshall Davis was an Hawaiian union leader. pssst, sidney, there were thousands of them across the U.S. during the 30's and 40s. I know history is a tough thing to grasp but just stretch a bit, Sarah will forgive you.

"Frank Marshall Davis", black journalist and labor leader from Hawaii,
by Kathryn Waddell Takara, Ph.D.

on blue name

Sidney's trolling score=C-

Okay Sidney, listen up. This is the way I learned it. If you can substitute her, him, or them, then it's okay to use whom. Also, there's a preposition in front of whom much of the time (e.g., to whom). If you can substitute she, he or they, then please use who. I am not an English major and I find this whom business very annoying.

Sheesh.

"Sounds like some of the liberal protesters at the RNC.... Posted by: sidney"

No it doesn't.
To my recollection protesters at the RNC did not shout racial slurs or murderous chants of "kill him"
Sorry sidney, no comparison.

Go away, Sydney.

Decent, law-abiding, patriotic Americans have no use for the likes of you.

You are evil, a tool of Satan, the opposite of everything our ancestors died for.

If you think that "someone in the crowd" yelling "terrorist" shows less tolerance for divergent ideas than this board does on a consistent basis, you are sorely mistaken.

Not saying that it isn't time for a shift in direction of this country, just admitting that everyone doesn't agree and that doesn't make them an idiot, a liar, or an uncaring bastard, though 2 out of three isn't bad.

I suspect that some on this board (and probably some on the conservative boards(if they exist) think everyone believes like them because they tend to shout down opposing opinions.

"sidney" if you are not math challenged, nay not even math, ARITHMETIC-CHALLENGED, then please visit the site on my blue name.

It's the Iowa Electronic Markets (IEM). Real investors put money into accounts and buy shares on candidates' expected outcome. The theory is cash talks and bullshit walks. If your choice is the winner you get $1 for each share. If your choice does not win you walk, or get $0 per sh.
The market has been around since the labor leader Frank Marshall Davis died, 20 years ago,
when BHO was 26.

So far, BHO is talking cash.

BHO price per share 10/7 = .785
McBush p.p.s. 10/7 = .225

You might note the IEM correctly indicated the winners of both presidential primaries.
It correctly indicated the presidential winner in 2000 and in '04 even when regular polling indicated Gore and Kerry held leads.

Fortunately for eLwood my package was purchased in Aug, just after McBush had his Moose-Woman redemption and the R pps went up and my desired share went below .60.
So eLwood will earn just slightly over 40% on the purchase. Not as good as gold certificates
purchased 4 and 5 yrs ago but hey, I can live with 40% margins.

And sidney, digging up new make-believe dirt is not going to turn the market around at this date. But, if you have faith tell us when you buy in to McBush's bargain basement prices.
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It seems to me that the Dems relish these juvenile attacks because it takes the focus off serious issues where the two major parties agree. The Dems want mudslinging because they see what agreeing with the Repubs during the debates did for them in 2000 and 2004. The republican candidates this year are so bad that they can't even focus on the things where they agree with the Dems. Their attacks are what they are: DESPERATION. I didn't think it was possible, but it seems the Dems will take the bait to encourage desperate, ignorant people to come out of the woodworks. Instead, they could take up dialogue with third party candidates and relegate the republicans to the byways where they belong.

Who loses if they enter this soap opera?

Smart, hard working people. Evolution. The long-term economy.

Sara Paline and Tall has all the characteristics of Lonesome Rhodes. We've already seen and heard some of what she truly represents and like Rhodes she is a product of the media, both left and right...she needs attention and has a thirst for power and is not above denigrating any who she thinks opposes her...we are to her as Lonesome says "idiots," "morons," "guinea pigs." I can only hope that like Lonesome she will have her defining moment that exposes her to the other faces in the crowd.

I've been trying to figure out why McCain would turn this direction all morning. I think that the negatives at this point won't work with the people that are still persuadable.

Then, the picture of those Republican thugs trying to force their way in to stop the Florida recounts in 2000 popped into my head.

I think McCain may be working his base into a frenzy, not only to energize them and make sure they show up at the polls, but as a way of intimidating potential Obama supporters. I say they are making a big mistake. I think people who are ready for change are willing to fight for it.

There was a time, mudturtle, when this 'both sides do it' stuff applied. Or, at least, had more merit. But after the last seven years and given the current state of our everything...generalizations like yours have come to mean that the author has no specifics to sustain their point of view. It's just more obfuscating...more smoke/mirrors meant to distract rather than enlighten.

I've yet to hear of any Democratic rallies where hatred/violence was encouraged, even celebrated, like those mentioned in this thread. And if they did act like the people at the Palin rallies, I'd speak out just as vigorously and I wouldn't support any candidate who deliberately inflamed such divisive/dangerous crap.

There's a huge difference between disagreeing through facts/specifics and disagreeing through unsubstantiated emotional generalizations.


I make no apologies for lumping Republicans and Nazis into the same category of societal criminal.

There were lots of "good" Germans who would never have committed murder on their own but found themselves serving Hitler and doing just that.

Democrats are known as tolerant, but it's time to stop being tolerant of evil. Evil persists because good people do nothing. Evil persists because evil will do anything to remain in power.

You do not compromise with evil. You do not compromise with Republicans.


Rod, if you cannot detect huge differences in national policy that will result in BHO taking office then my friend,
you're getting mighty thin,
like piss on a rock.

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"America is a racist, hate-filled nation run by rich white people"

Why waste yer time stating the obvious? Boy...the desperateness of McCain-Palin came rolling out this past weekend. They're just one click away from screaming NI**ER NI**ER NI**ER. They're horrible....they're embarrassing! Oh to be this sidney person...having to wake up and spend another day defending shit-balls like old man McCain and Mrs. Parrothead. They're the worst running mates in US history and I giggle in their general direction.

That they are so awful and sinking in the polls worries me though. The neo-con RNC is smarter than this. They know they can't win with the clown couple. So what are they up to? What secret weapon do they have up their red forked sleeve?

We've got 28 days to see what shoe is fixing to drop on our heads. At any moment their evil plan can be sprung. I'm sure we won't see it coming and can't guess what it is. But the evil ones in the White House have some plan to keep all the power and money they've stolen. You don't spend 8 years robbing, raping and killing to grab it all just to let a stinking little election take it all away. So beware! If you think Pearl Harbor and 9-11 were sneaky.....you ain't seen nothing yet.

Sidney Rosenbaum?
Might not be, but if so, would seem to be par for the course.

I want to thank Sarah "Winkie" Palin for resurrecting Katie's career. Her interview made people notice that Katie wasn't just a cupcake as an interviewer. I'd like to see Winkie be interviewed by one of the real sharks of journalism.

re : "Rod, if you cannot detect huge differences in national policy that will result in BHO taking office then my friend, you're getting mighty thin, like piss on a rock."

You always turn to bodily functions when you don't have an argument don't you ELwood?

Click my name for a hint on how to craft your reply. Or just give me a couple more homespun insults. I can take 'em.

I am not talking about the positions of the parties, I am talking about the posters on this blog. I didn't include any examples because it seemed so obvious.

I'll go up to the top of this topic and see if I can find any examples................

...didnt go far

"The Republicans have no shame, no morals, no ethics.

They would vote for Hitler if he ran on the GOP ticket."

So your point is...'mudturtle', EVERYONE on this blog's "SICK TO DEATH" of Bush/Cheney/McCain/Pailn BULLS**T! and NOT gonna take it anymore?
AMEN!!!! We are Sick To Death and not going to take It anymore ...

The blinders remain on. You didn't compare Republicans with law abiding Germans who elected an unknown and charimatic leader.

You said, "They have no shame, no moral, and no ethics" and they would (not "would have") voted for Hitler (a virtually universally reviled individual.) if he ran of the GOP ticket.

An huge indictment of a group that may include somewhere between 30 and 52% of the US population, many of whom are voting for Obama. No difference in Republicans and Nazis as societal criminals.


I said that, yes, and your point is ??

If Republicans don't like being compared to Nazis or criminals, then they can stop being Republicans. Because I'm surely not going to stop comparing them.

If you can't see the obvious parallels between Munich in 1939 and a Palin rally in 2008, I can't help you. Then it was the Jews who were at the root of all evil. Now it is the Liberals.

"If you can't see the obvious parallels between Munich in 1939 and an Obama rally in 2008, I can't help you. Then it was the Jews who were at the root of all evil. Now it is the Republicans."

Now mudturtle...hating the Nazis and what they did doesn't mean Nazi haters are the same thing as the Nazis. This thread was about the overt words of hatred expressed by McSame/Palin's supporters toward members of the media/Obama at their campaign rallies. Presidential candidates who encourage crowds to turn on reporters and cheer for Obama's demise are disgusting hatemongers who shouldn't be allowed to lead. Everyone should speak out against such blatant hate. But we are not the same as those whose acts we decry simply because we speak out.

"This thread was about the overt words of hatred expressed by McSame/Palin's supporters toward members of the media/Obama at their campaign rallies."
by: zelda

zelda, you know it's Clinton's fault! Clinton made them express hate! And now "Sweetie-gate."

I have never understood, Mturtle, why you and posters like son of kubrick and Charles the Fifth persist in posting in to a group who detest your base concepts, beliefs and tenets. Even LgA** disappears for periods of R&R before he reappaears to calls down the wrath of thinking bloggers on his head.

Is there something masochistic in y'alls nature that makes you want to be dumped upon? Click.

You must realize after the endless disasters, crooks and fiascos your party and political fellows have foist upon us, we are as likely to believe you and vote Republican as Rush Limbaugh and the CCRRR's are to ever thank the ACLU for defending his medical privacy or for anything.

When you get tired of your masochism, I recommend you try humanevents.com and their blogs. You will find fellows of like mind to commiserate with and blame it all on Clinton and the liberal Democrats. However, if you like and want to continue you masochistic pursuits, stick around and sharpen your logic and references, its pretty boring to hear the same old CCRRR talkers over and over again.

P.S. I scan humanevents.com periodically because is seems to publish the latest smears and talkers faster than most other sites and I like to laugh at being offered those free copies of Coulter, Corsi, Freddosi, and others books so they can claim to be best sellers.

Thanks, mturtle, you just made me realize what to give my CCRRR friends for Christmas!

Well doc, if you were the "hall monitor" you would certainly have the right to revoke my hall pass, but you obviously have no clue about the direction of my political donations, my intended vote, or even the yard sign outside my house.

My original point was that when compared to ATB posters, the Republican party has no corner on the market of prejudice, hate and intolerance. A fellow poster said of the Republicans, "anyone different, anyone not wired to blindly follow the current bully gets the torch. " Much of this thread supports that assertion, but perhaps none so eloquently as,"I have never understood, Mturtle, why you and posters like son of kubrick and Charles the Fifth persist in posting in to a group who detest your base concepts, beliefs and tenets.

I suspect that when 60%+ of the American population returns sanity to the White House in 4 weeks, self righteous, sanctimonious pricks just as you will find yourselves as marginalized on the Left wing as the Creationists and Amendment 1 supporters are on the Right.

From the original post:

"And later we have Sarah Palin with the same mob racket, getting members of the crowd to yell out "kill him", though it's not clear whether the call for murder was for Bill Ayers or Barack Obama. It didn't seem to matter."

I read the linked WaPo blog entry. It does not mention Palin inciting anything. She pointed out, truthfully, that Obama has connections to William Ayers, a terrorist who target, among other things, the Pentagon. According to report, some yahoo (not more than one person) in the audience then shouted, "Kill him!" I wasn't there, so I don't know if Palin heard the guy. If she did, she rightly should have upbraided him for the comment, which from the entry appears to have been directed at the Terrorist Ayers and not at Obama. (As an aside, Ayers doesn't deserve death because his incompetent terrorist attacks did not result in any deaths. But he DID deserve a long prison sentence, although he did not receive one.)

My point in all of this is that this post from TPM is dishonest. Assuming that the linked entry from WaPo is correct, it was not fairly related. The AT blog is only a blog, but at least SOME journalistic standard should apply--and that should include not posting entries such as this tripe from TPM without making at least a token effort to verify its veracity.

MTurtle,

It's a free blog, I'm just trying to understand why you and some others (FromThePines) post here to those who seem to always disagree with the beliefs and position you are posting? If it's not masochism, what is it?

In any case, thanks again for helping with my Christmas List.

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