Holy s***!
McCain would pay for his (pitifully ineffective) health care plan by cuts in Medicare and Medicaid. So says Rupert Murdoch's Wall Street Journal.
Turn out the lights if this gets around, as it should.

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McCain would pay for his (pitifully ineffective) health care plan by cuts in Medicare and Medicaid. So says Rupert Murdoch's Wall Street Journal.
Turn out the lights if this gets around, as it should.
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Hasn't McSame been on a government sponsored health care/coverage since his birth?
Posted by: Cato
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October 6, 2008 04:16 PM
Yippers! Thar she blows!
"But it also means that Sen. McCain must fill a huge budget hole -- which the campaign says will come from cuts to Medicare and Medicaid.
The nonpartisan Tax Policy Center, a Washington think tank, estimates that the McCain plan would cost the government $1.3 trillion over 10 years. The plan would allow as many as five million more people to have insurance, it estimates."
McBush and none of the Neo-Cons get it. We no longer need to rely on failed models to provide care. We spend 50% more health care dollars than other nation and do not even provide for 47 million people. Screw insurance companies. They do nothing but fool people into thinking they are insured and peel off 30% of health care dollars.
Some facts to dismay you:
Health Care Spending
* In 1970, the U.S. spent approximately $75 million on health care. In 2006, that number stood at $2.1 trillion dollars.
* The U.S. spends 50% more than any other country on health care
* The U.S. ranks 1st in money spent on health care, 15th in preventable death, 24th in life expectancy, and 28th in infant mortality
By one physician's reckoning we spent more than enough to treat all Americans but do not.
For the complete eye opener click on blue name.
Posted by: eLwood
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October 6, 2008 04:25 PM
It doesn't matter.
What matters is a professor who was a radical when Obama was 6 years old.
Health care is not relevant. Only character assassination and distorted slurs are relevant.
Thanks, Republicans, for raising the level of discourse in this nation! You're all true patriots, because real patriots don't care about the future of this nation, only the future of the Republican party, isn't that right?
Posted by: Republicans for Obama
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October 6, 2008 04:31 PM
Uh...double the 'Holy s***!'...when seniors get a whiff of that really stupid idea, Palin won't be able to save McSame if she dances naked chanting 'drill drill drill.' Bet we'll see another correction...
Not only is McSame going to send millions of us to Medicare by cutting out employer tax breaks for health insurance, he's gonna finish Monkeyboy/Norquist's mission to destroy government.
Such good Christian Republicans...kicking people out of their houses so Wall Street billionaires can line their pockets (that's RIGHT!) and trying to cut two major programs that serve the very sick and the elderly. Sure glad Sarah brought some Christian compassion to the ticket...ha ha.
Posted by: zelda
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October 6, 2008 04:31 PM
Considering the astonishing number of people who don't even realize Medicare and Medicaid (including many who rely on medicaid) are government provided... I don't know if they would think McCain is just taking on big corporations in this scenario.
I'm beginning to think Americans don't take enough drugs.
Posted by: Eureka Springs, AR
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October 6, 2008 05:00 PM
Ms. Z and any other person on here 60+ should copy paste key phrases from the WSJ article and send it to EVERY SENIOR on you email list. I did. State Demo leaders should distribute copies of that WSJ article far and wide.
The entire Ark presidential election could be turned around if this became widely known.
How many conservative voters have parents and grandparents on one or both programs
(Medicare or Medicaid)? Just think about making up the differences.
Bush has already trimmed physician reimbursement so low it is difficult to see a regular doctor if you use Medicare.
This should be broadcast widely.
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Posted by: eLwood
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October 6, 2008 05:03 PM
" . . . Sen. McCain's plan [is] to offer a new tax credit of $2,500 per person and $5,000 per family toward insurance premiums. This would allow people to buy health coverage on the open market, where they may have more choices and might look for a better bargain."
Right. Look for that better bargain.
Just like I did some 20 years ago when I thought I could do better with an individual policy rather than the family policy offered by my husband's workplace. Ya know what? (I think I'm channelin' Miz Sarah today.) That individual policy would have cost me about the same as the group policy and nothing of a "female" nature would EVER be covered, in spite of the fact that the only "problem" I had was approaching menopause.
Find a better bargain. Just like I had to when COBRA was about to run out. Health problems? Nope, nothing that I have to take meds for. Just exercise and watch my diet, being careful about salt, sugar and fats -- the sorts of things that 'most everyone should do. BUT before my doctor insisted and I adopted these measures, certain test numbers were creeping up and that's in my medical records. Well, guess what? Those numbers indicate "pre-existing conditions" so I'm not covered for those. Guess I'm lucky though -- it's just a year's exclusion, not forever.
Imagine what's gonna happen to those folks who actually do have health problems when McCain's plan takes effect -- NO COVERAGE EVER!
And those who are hale and hearty? Well, lemme tell you, sugar -- unless you're 25 or 30 years old, $2500 ain't gonna buy you much insurance. Hubby's company paid nearly double that amount to cover him three years ago.
And $5000 for a growing family? Don't kid yourself. Between what hubby's company paid for his insurance and what was held out of his check for mine, the bite was in excess of $8000. Three years ago! It would be more than $11000 now.
Anyone who falls for this nonsense either has never dealt with insurance matters or is dumber than a box of rocks.
No, let me amend that. The person who proposes this nonsense has never dealt with insurance matters and is dumber than a box of rocks.
Posted by: Doigotta
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October 6, 2008 05:16 PM
"Ms. Z and any other person on here 60+..."
Hey eLwood, just how old do you think I am...ha...old enough to know McSame better not f*** with the old coots and our programs.
Exactly, doigotta, it's testimony to the incompetency of Bush 2 that he's proposing something that will actually make things worse than they are right now.
Every American should watch last night's PBS show POV...before they vote. Grab some tissues and weep for our country...and every non-millionaire sick person.
Posted by: zelda
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October 6, 2008 06:31 PM
History lesson...almost laughable
"FULLER TRANSCRIPT: Here's the fuller transcript of McCain as he evades on health care. (Pomper nailed this session quite accurately-although this was not the first GOP debate.) The moderator who questioned McCain was WMUR-TV's Karen Brown. Two weeks later, McCain presented his health care plan-and it was "almost laughable:"
BROWN (12/2/99): Senator McCain, several major HMOs are failing financially. The system isn't working. There is rampant patient dissatisfaction. What do you propose to fix it?
MCCAIN: We need a Patients Bill of Rights, and the reason why we haven't gotten it through the Congress is because on the Democrat side, the trial lawyers have them in their control and they'll want to sue anybody for anything under any circumstance. On the Republican side, we're in the grip of the huge money from the insurance companies and the HMOs-the typical gridlock which has caused Americans to have such a low opinion of what goes on in Washington.
The Internet should not be taxed. The Internet should not be taxed. The Internet is the greatest thing that's happened to the world, somewhere between-a combination between the invention of the printing press and the industrial revolution. It has unlimited potential to spread knowledge, information and freedom throughout the world, and economic development. And the sales taxes, as a result of the increase of the Internet commerce, even though there's a moratorium, have increased. And I believe that that's ample testimony that the Internet will increase sales taxes, and the governors are incredibly short-sighted when they want to tax this baby in its cradle. [Bell sounds.]
BROWN: Let me return to the issue of health care and HMOs. Given how expensive health care is, HMOs are now waking up to the fact that they can't deliver the promises they made to consumers and still be profitable. If, ultimately, HMOs disappear, what then fills the void?
McCAIN: Obviously the HMOs need to be made whole. We need to spend more money to make sure that they do. We have added more money for Medicare and Medicaid payments in the last emergency supplemental-(laughs)-that we passed. All of those thing have to be done, but I also believe that we have to take care of patients first. And if patients are not well-treated in HMOs, then obviously then the HMOs are not going to be sought out by them.
Again, on the Internet, we need to install-we are installing in every school and library in America filtering software that would filter out according to community standards the objectionable material. That's the way we resolve this issue of such a flood of pornography. And we are wiring those schools and libraries at taxpayers' expense." [CLICK]
Our man McSaine! Not so laughable now.
Posted by: bejeeus
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October 6, 2008 06:41 PM
McSame........................Yep! He really is just GWB on steroids. He's crazy, selfish, reckless, and has the temperment of a torturer. Sick!!!
Posted by: Ci.Ci
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October 6, 2008 08:44 PM
I would say this is the nail in the coffin for George McCain. Florida will turn blue, blue, blue once this gets out. Surely Obama will get this out.
In case the Obama staff missed this, call, e-mail, fax, whatever, but get them to jump on this.
My Vietnam serving brother says that McCain gave the Vietnam government information which resulted in American troop deaths, and that got covered up.
Posted by: kizzy
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October 6, 2008 09:48 PM
Kizzy, if you have the time, read the long, long John McCain story under "Recommended Reading" in the next thread down on the blog. Seems like our boy sang like a canary.
Posted by: Doigotta
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October 6, 2008 10:27 PM
" McCain gave the Vietnam government information which resulted in American troop deaths, and that got covered up."
I don't believe that kizzy. I would be one of the last to besmirch his service to this country, unlike the GOP's treatment of John Kerry.
Posted by: Cato
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October 7, 2008 08:27 AM