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Blithering hypocrites

It's rich to see the likes of Republlican Sen. Richard Shelby of Alabama insist on more givebacks from U.S. automakers' workers before he'll agree to any government support for their continued survival.

Here's just one of a number of places that recount the hundreds of millions in subsidies that Southern states -- South Carolina, Mississippi, Tennessee and Alabama -- have given to lure foreign automakers to their worker-unfriendly climes. These state have literally taxed poor people to give handouts to Japanese and German carmakers. But subsidies for U.S. automakers are OK only if unionized workforces -- already not far ahead of workers for foreign companies in compensation and already on-board for more givebacks -- are sufficiently punished.

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The shag carpeting in my El Camino is wearing out and I suspect it will need to be replaced about the next time the oil is changed, about another 20,000 miles.

I might like a Ford, but it they shutter the doors of that plant., Toyota or someone else will have a truck, or if they don't I might look at one of those high dollar golf carts.

Surely no one think the US will drive even one less car, so someone is going to build them, someone is going to make the tires, someone is going to make the steel, someone is going to make the speedometer. You just can tell me a Ford factory in Mexico is any better for us than a Honda plant in Alabama.

While my enthusiasm for air travel is at an all time low, the loss of Braniff, Eastern, TWA, and PanAm hasn't put an end to my travel options.....though I do miss those sugar coated peanuts.


Old Senator Shelby is not of the Party of Lincoln:


"Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if Labor had not first existed. Labor is superior to capital, and deserves much the higher consideration."

- President Abraham Lincoln

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Senator Shelby is from a scarcely regenerated slave state and from a party that turned Southern because their business model is a plantation worked by slaves for the benefit of the owners. [Actually, I'm just testing the sign-in, trying to find some procedure that works, and will be astonished if this gets posted.]


House OKs aid for Detroit automakers; oversight sought to finish pact

BY JUSTIN HYDE and TODD SPANGLER . FREE PRESS WASHINGTON STAFF . December 11, 2008

WASHINGTON -- The U.S. House approved a $14-billion emergency lifeline for General Motors Corp. and Chrysler LLC on Wednesday, sending the plan to the Senate, where key Republicans said the bill was all but dead without tougher conditions on the auto industry and the UAW.
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By a 237-170 vote, House members approved a plan that had come together just a day earlier in talks with Democrats and the White House. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., said the rescue would test Detroit automakers' commitment to the tough choices necessary for their survival.

"We want to throw a lifeline for success," Pelosi said. "We do not intend to afford life support so we just have to revisit this issue again at the same status quo."

Yet the deal was jeered by Senate Republicans on Wednesday, despite intense lobbying by the White House. Several lawmakers said no taxpayer money should be lent to the industry without cuts up front, such as matching the wages and benefits paid by foreign automakers at their U.S. plants, and some questioned the auto industry's repeated claims that bankruptcy would force their liquidation rather than reworking their businesses.

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eLwood, that Lincoln quote should make its way around the internet as often and as far as some of the crap that seems to arrive every other day. Americans have really lost their way.

As for Shelby and his state - I agree with Snap, they are still just mental days from the plantation.

I still wish there could be a playing out of this thing the way the bassackwards Republicans want it to go and let them gasp at the havoc they cause only to be 'saved' by the rest of us jerking them back from the precipice. They are so stupidly smug and I think they really think all is well except for the 'sky is falling' crowd who just won't shut up. God, I would love for them to pay the price for their idiocy. What Shelby wants would probably tank his own constituents, for crying out loud!

Stupendous Union Busters...Bushed Legacy!
Or the endangered species (middle class) see 2001-2008.
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CiCi I mentioned that quote to a progressive, retired UA proff yesterday and he as so surprised.

In fairness Eureka Springs has posted a edited version of it before.

The proff was so surprised since Lincoln had predated Marx.

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"The proff was so surprised since Lincoln had predated Marx"

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What always surprises me is that the Christian conservatives usually don't recognize the concept as Christian rather than socialist or communist.

I think Das Capital was published in that liberally effusive year of 1948 in Europe. It did preceed Lincoln.

eek!!!! 1848

Shelby in front of the cameras reminds me of George Wallace on the University of Alabama steps. Never mind that the potential failure of US auto manufacturers will benefit the foreign automakers whose plants in Alabama were subsidized by the state.

"GMAC at the brink: General Motors' finance unit is falling short of capital requirements it needs to become a bank holding company and access needed cash from the government."

"GMAC had been hoping to become a bank holding company since that status would allow the firm to tap into the Troubled Asset Relief Program," -- CNN

Oh boy.

Hmmm...I'm fully behind unions/automakers and my brothers/sisters on the economic front lines (the dying middle class); but every time President Shit for Brains and the Democrats have gotten together in the last eight years it's meant a double screwing for my side of things. Plus...why in the hell are Senate Republicans STILL seeming to run things. Sure, the new gang hasn't arrived yet and I guess...I'm just tired of a handful of DC Republicans getting their way ALL THE TIME. The only difference between the current crap and the last eight years of a based-on-lies war, the Constitution-shredding Patriot Act and giving immunity to big brother At&T is that Monkeyboy isn't on their side this time.

If only we could replace horrid Harry and Nancy like Obama replaced Monkeyboy. I've yet to see a dime's worth of difference between them and their Republican counterparts. But maybe I just slept through the good stuff...

Shelby is transparently pathetic...but not tangibly much different than the 'other side.' They just take turns throwing us crumbs.

Third try...damn it...fourth...fifth

Look at just one example from the massive bailout (some say already 8 trillion when adding up what Paulson and Bernake have done) extended to the financial industry.

B of A received 25 billion... with no question or condidtions, none. And they didn't turn around and issue credit. They bought part of a Chinese Bank....while squeezing the life out of laid off window workers in Chicago.

We simply must stand up for ourselves...including all fellow American workers.. or these folks will turn us into some hybrid of a Chinese / Indian style workforce caste system.

9 House Democrats voted with the Republicans yesterday.... not even willing to fork over 14 billion to preserve 3 million jobs during what may very well be a worse situation than what led to the great depression.

The Shock Doctors / Friedmanites own far two much of both parties. AMericans need a Remember The Bastille day!

Zelda, I totally agree. The Dems, to use the words of Madeline Albright, have no cajones!
Now would be the time for the Senate Dems to tell the Republicans just go ahead and filibuster. Let them hold the stage for days on end as people lose their jobs, are evicted from their homes, attempt to purchase gifts for the holidays, attempt to maintain their employment and sanity and watch the last remnents of our manufacturing base go under. That would rival the images of Hoover in the early 30's.

Michigan is certainly free to subsidize the car plants as much as Alabama and Tennessee, but the federal government has no business doing it. I suspect the state of Michigan has done its best to tax the big three out of business. The UAW tries to change the subject from its larceny and extortion of money from the big three. It really is a shame that George Bush didn't do anything to put the unions out of business. I don't know how you liberals justify taxing lower wage earners in Arkansas to subsidize those being paid above market wages in Michigan.

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