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To heck with him having a conceal permit....how and why in the hell would the feds allow him permits for owning so many automatic machine guns??? There should be a red flag thrown at some time, say after 3 permits, but a 100 permits??? Even licensed gun dealers don't have that many!

This guy had a registered grenade launcher but the 110 fully automatic sub-machine guns were illegal. He is originally from Pakistan and I wonder if he is a naturalized U.S. citizen, the news coverage I've seen has not addressed that aspect. You would think given his origin and residential proxmity to Nuclear One, someone may have inquired into the launcher. That's not being racist, it's profiling and in the case of national security sometimes justified. Ooops, I forgot, "change" has arrived and all bets are off. One or two sub-machines guns for hunting can surely be understandable; but 110 of them is a little over the top even for Arkansas.

Unlike Mann, most conceal-carry holders aren't felons or law-breakers of any sort. Your underlying argument is fallacious.

ARK. BLOG: My underlying argument is only that mistakes and oversights occur, however small the number, and public knowledge can help serve as a corrective.

What's felatio got to do with anything?

>>One or two sub-machines guns for hunting can surely be understandable; but 110 of them is a little over the top even for Arkansas.<<

The right to keep bare arms is not related to huntin'.

It's related to being in the militia and defending your county, state and country against all enemies foreign and domestic, esp the hairy types.

When the Red Communist Chinese come pouring forth over our Southern border who do you think will be able to stop them? Texas citizens of course! Recall our National Guards are over fighting in Iraq, Pakistan, and Afghanistan.

Some of the marauding hordes will likely make it to Ark then Asa! can rally together militias across the Land of Opportunity and defend the sanctity of Arkansas' borders. Wait! Asa! has no military experience. We'll find somebody. Mayor Boss Womack in Rogers is a colonel. He'll do.

That's what grenade launchers are for ya know, militia duties.

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Max, I am sure that anyone under investigation for having over a hundred automatic weapons is going to have his carry permit suspended regardless of whether the information is public or not. To suggest otherwise you are essentially labeling the police incompetents.

ARK. BLOG: Your assumption is wrong. They learned about Mann's permit from me this afternoon. Call Bill Sadler and ask if you don't believe me. I don't say it's incompetence, however. I say, in this case, it's the divide between state and federal authorities. They are working on improving the flow of information. It is one, but not the only one, of the ways that mistakes can happen. The Westside school killer gun app, under a new name, was another close call. Sunshine is good.

"Ooops, I forgot, "change" has arrived and all bets are off." --Stuart Soffar

Gee, Stu, did I miss the fact that Dr. Mann had amassed his small arsenal just in the last six or seven weeks? If so, would you be so kind as to post the web address of that little tidbit of news?
Otherwise, perhaps you need to ponder the fact that a Democrat, a member of that genus which you seem to consider your arch enemy, handily won the presidency, probably in large part because the electorate had had enough of fools in the Oval Office over the last eight years. I only hope he can clean up the mess your boys made.

ArkieMalarkey, the good doctor was arrested last Tuesday. Seems to me that competent police work would have discovered that he held a concealed weapon permit and made their move last week, at least for the sake of appearances.

Your logic is so unbelievably flawed on this matter it is beyond ridiculous. I wish I could comprehend how one person can have so much piss and vinegar seething from their pores over something so petty and irrelevent to actual crime prevention and citizen safety.

Sure, some concealed carry holders are gonna do some bad things, but for the most part, at least they are trying to stay within the letter of the law. If they weren't, why would they bother taking the class, undergoing the background check and paying the fees to get the permit?

The bottom line is: guys who are gonna use guns with ill intent are not in any way enabled to commit a crime by posessing a concealed carry permit or by not having the list of concealed carry permit holders made publicly available. You and I both know this. It's way too much trouble to obtain and most probably couldn't pass the background check anyway. There is no way you can tell me with any seriousness that you believe any of the thugs who have robbed banks and gas stations or committed any of the numerous murders in LR this year or ever were enabled to do so by having a concealed carry permit. Its possible that a small % did have a permit, but having this permit in no way enabled them to commit such crimes. Guns flow through classified ads and through the black market at will with no regard for whether or not buyers have a CC permit or even if they could pass a standard background check that is required to buy a hunting rifle.

No way in heck a Concealed Carry permit holder who decides he/she wants to commit a murder, robbery, etc is going to be prevented from doing so by having their concealed carry permit revoked at some point because the public has access to a database indicating this person possesses a concealed carry permit.

You are expending an inordinate amount of effort fighting a menial, losing battle. There is no way this is gonna pass in Arkansas.

One quick question though - do you honestly feel any safer knowing that Mr. Mann has had his CC permit revoked???

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That's what it's all about... Eh'
'Republicans' 'Conservatives' 'loves' 'thems' 'somes' 'wars'!

Max,

With regard to the example from Rep. Stewart, I can confirm for you that the list is not complete. Several people I know that have licenses were not on the list that you published.

I'm all for guns, and I'm a 12 gauge pump carryin' liberal. Can I take my shotgun to church? It won't be concealed, will that be legal?

"One quick question though - do you honestly feel any safer knowing that Mr. Mann has had his CC permit revoked??? "

The question I have is this: can anyone show that crime has dropped since we've had the concealed gun laws? Just wonderin'. If crime hasn't dropped, then how do you justify carrying your concealed weapon for the public good?

Cut all the B.S. about criminals not getting permits.

The fact that you could be setting next to my daughter at the movie with a hidden pistol -- and that you not only want to conceal it from her and her parents but also the public -- is enough to label you as mentally disturbed.

How does it feel to live in such fear and paranoia that you can't go outside without a gun? I'd really like to know.

If you all will recall....all this fuss isn't over the right to bear arms. It's not over the right to have a concealed carry permit. This whole shit storm has been over making public information public. No one but a guy insane enough to shoot a preacher during church would be crazy enough to look thru the list and find a guy with a concealed carry permit and then target his car for a burglary. If some concealed carry permit owner's car got broken into....IF IF IF...you can be it was just coincidence.

It's like finding a list of people with pit bull dogs and deciding to break into only their houses. So all this crap about gun owners being targeted for burglary, all this crap about liberals trying to ban guns, is just pure crap. The more information you have the better off you are at all times. Dr. Randeep Mann is the sterling example of why public records should remain public. And in the days ahead who knows how many other bad guys will be found to have concealed carry permits.

Does this make all people with concealed carry permits bad? NO! But covering up public information is way way too Hitler-Bush like for my tastes. Apparently having your name revealed as one who carries a gun brings some kind of embarrassment or fantasy bust or these people wouldn't be yelling so loud and threatening Max. If it's too embarrassing for it to be known that you carry a gun....maybe you shouldn't carry a gun. Grow up, I say.

"One or two sub-machines guns for hunting can surely be understandable; but 110 of them is a little over the top even for Arkansas..."

Hmm...thought I was well versed in hunting stuff; but I sure can't think of why or when anyone would need to use a machine gun for hunting. Unless, perhaps, they're taking a shortcut to hamburger.

Hey, gun nuts...quit changing the subject from making public information public to the right to bear arms. Sheesh.

I THINK I heard on a local news channel earlier this evening that some gonzo legislator filed an 'open carry' bill today, the last day to file bills this session. Now we are getting down to some real wild west stuff!

Oh, and if the public doesn't have any right to know who has a government issued conceal carry permit, we will also have to pretend we don't see folks openly carrying the gun(s) of their choice into wherever they want- hospitals, banks, airports, police stations, city halls, sporting events, U of A and UCA Board meetings, etc. Enjoy!

Feds: Ark. doctor's father an arms dealer
Mar 9th, 2009 | LITTLE ROCK, Ark. -- The father of a doctor accused of stockpiling more than $1 million worth of machine guns, grenade launchers and grenades in and around his home is a known international arms dealer, and he and his son made frequent trips outside the country in the past two years, a federal agent testified Monday.

link at my name.

After the hearing, Hendrix dismissed the government's case against his client as innuendo.

"I'm hearing a lot of allegations and hyperbole, but I'm not hearing any proof to sustain them," Hendrix told reporters.

Just like the media, you only posted what you wanted people to believe mag! I know Dr. Mann personally, and I am grateful to know him and have him as our family doctor. He is a wonderful man, and this town is lucky to have such a good doctor. He is only being targeted because he doesn't kiss the politicians and "big wig's" butts in this town. He speaks his mind and stands up for his patients and what he believes in.

Concerned,
I don't have an opinion about Dr. Mann. I just posted the AP story.

First off, Dr. Mann is an extremely kind, compassionate, and hard working man who deserves some respect. He doesn't bow down to St. Mary's (the local hospital here who also owns the biggest clinic we have) so they are trying to make him leave. St. Mary's is ranked in the "top 10" in the nation for most expensive hospitals. Every time a new doctor comes to town, they try to buy him out. Dr. Mann is being targeted because they can't find any other way to run him out of town. He is taking away their precious profits because he is such a good doctor and man!

If any of you had bothered to pay attention, the articles say that they could not find registration on 17 weapons. If Dr. Mann went to the extent to be legalized in carrying/possessing the other weapons, why on God's earth would he try to hide ownership of 17 of them? Duh, he either has them registered and the FBI couldn't find the registrations or he just hasn't gotten around to registering them yet. People need to use common sense here. He definitely wouldn't be stupid enough to register the majority of the weapons and say to heck with the other 17! As far as the grenades go, one would only think that he just hasn't registered them yet either, or maybe he didn't know that they needed to be registered.

Dr. Mann is a very kind, loving, and hard working man. He has every right to his toys as boys call it. Who cares how many he has as long as he is being cautious and legitimate with them. His actions of registering the majority of them prove that he isn't trying to hide anything or harm anyone.

Secondly, one thing the media failed to mention is the fact that he has his own firing range, or his numerous Dodge Vipers and antique cars in his garage! Does that mean anyone who owns weapons/firing range or has a passion for them is considered a safety hazard? No it does not. It only shows that the good man has a love for expensive toys.

Dr. Mann is extremely kind and compassionate, and I am personally thankful to know and have him in my life and as our family doctor. I can call him anytime for anything, even while he's at the gym working out, and he still has the best bedside manner than any other doctor I've seen in this town. Does your doctor do that for you? Would you feel threatened by a man that passionate about his work and his patients? Would your doctor even think about giving you his cell number or his wife's? Even though he owns million dollar weapons and cars, would your doctor and his wife make you feel equal to him or hug you and your daughters every time they saw you in town? This wonderful man and his wife always do!

Stop being ignorant and open your eyes to the fact that the media only tells you the negative things about people so their stories will be more interesting and will sell newspapers/stories. Would there be this much talk if people knew how kind Dr. Mann really is, or how he goes above and beyond for his patients. No there wouldn't, because it wouldn't be interesting to the readers!

Think about it, is there anything in your past that isn't perfect? There's not one person on this earth who can say yes to that! Wouldn't you like to hear gossip about your friends or your friends hear gossip about you? What if someone didn't print the whole truth about your story? How would you feel then? Better yet, how would the public view you without truly knowing you!

I KNOW A GREAT MAN AND HIS NAME IS DR. RANDEEP MANN!

First off, Dr. Mann is an extremely kind, compassionate, and hard working man who deserves some respect. He doesn't bow down to St. Mary's (the local hospital here who also owns the biggest clinic we have). St. Mary's is ranked in the "top 10" in the nation for most expensive hospitals. Every time a new doctor comes to town, they try to buy him out. Dr. Mann is being targeted because they can't find any other way to run him out of town. He is taking away their precious profits because he is such a good doctor and man!

If any of you had bothered to pay attention, the articles say that they could not find registration on 17 weapons. If Dr. Mann went to the extent to be legalized in carrying/possessing the other weapons, why on God's earth would he try to hide ownership of 17 of them? Duh, he either has them registered and the FBI couldn't find the registrations or he just hasn't gotten around to registering them yet. People need to use common sense here. He definitely wouldn't be stupid enough to register the majority of the weapons and say to heck with the other 17! As far as the grenades go, one would only think that he just hasn't registered them yet either, or maybe he didn't know that they needed to be registered.

Dr. Mann is a very kind, loving, and hard working man. He has every right to his toys as boys call it. Who cares how many he has as long as he is being cautious and legitimate with them. His actions of registering the majority of them prove that he isn't trying to hide anything or harm anyone.

Secondly, one thing the media failed to mention is the fact that he has his own firing range, or his numerous Dodge Vipers and antique cars in his garage! Does that mean anyone who owns weapons/firing range or has a passion for them is considered a safety hazard? No it does not. It only shows that the good man has a love for expensive toys.

Dr. Mann is extremely kind and compassionate, and I am personally thankful to know and have him in my life and as our family doctor. I can call him anytime for anything, even while he's at the gym working out, and he still has the best bedside manner than any other doctor I've seen in this town. Does your doctor do that for you? Would you feel threatened by a man that passionate about his work and his patients? Would your doctor even think about giving you his cell number or his wife's? Even though he owns million dollar weapons and cars, would your doctor and his wife make you feel equal to him or hug you and your daughters every time they saw you in town? This wonderful man and his wife always do!

Stop being ignorant and open your eyes to the fact that the media only tells you the negative things about people so their stories will be more interesting and will sell newspapers/stories. Would there be this much talk if people knew how kind Dr. Mann really is, or how he goes above and beyond for his patients. No there wouldn't, because it wouldn't be interesting to the readers!

Think about it, is there anything in your past that isn't perfect? There's not one person on this earth who can say yes to that! Wouldn't you like to hear gossip about your friends or your friends hear gossip about you? What if someone didn't print the whole truth about your story? How would you feel then? Better yet, how would the public view you without truly knowing you!

I KNOW A GREAT MAN AND HIS NAME IS DR. RANDEEP MANN!

Concerned Student,

Inquiring minds want to know, 1) "How large a firing range is required for 110 fully automatic weapons and a grenade launcher?" 2) Is 5,000 rounds per automatic weapon and approximately 100 grenades per launcher sufficient for recreational shooting?"

And it's your position that all of these weapons, ammunition and explosives, licensed and unlicensed, are part of a conspiracy by St. Mary's hospital and the local power structure against Dr. Mann?

CS, what happens if an accident happens and the Good Dr. Mann's house catches on fire? How far away are his neighbors? Far enough away that all that ammo won't shoot out to their houses? Can you say "public safety hazard"???

Mr. EY has several "toys", but they are 4 wheel drive pickups. There is very little that could happen to them that could endanger the life of others around him. There will never be a stray part that flies off and kills another person. If the next owners of our house have kids, they can dig and play in the yard safely without getting blown to bits (which wouldn't be the case in his yard with all the buried grenades).

The Three Stages of Enlightenment

1) He is a great man!

2) Well he was always good to me

3) That lying bastard.

SoundPolicy said:
"I THINK I heard on a local news channel earlier this evening that some gonzo legislator filed an 'open carry' bill today, the last day to file bills this session. Now we are getting down to some real wild west stuff!

Oh, and if the public doesn't have any right to know who has a government issued conceal carry permit, we will also have to pretend we don't see folks openly carrying the gun(s) of their choice into wherever they want- hospitals, banks, airports, police stations, city halls, sporting events, U of A and UCA Board meetings, etc. Enjoy!"

You are absolutely correct! Representative Mark Martin filed HR2184 Monday. The Arkansas Open Carry Law will bring Arkansas in line with FOURY-FOUR states which ALREADY allow open carry of handguns! Count 'em... YES, 44! States such as Vermont, Virginia, Arizona, Kansas, Colorado (and on and on) allow you to carry your handgun in a holster in Wal-Mart, the movies, Hooters and other establishments. Do you want to know why you never heard of it? Because these people don't commit crimes. And Wild West? I thought intelligent liberals such as you would know your American history; crime rates per capita were lower in 1875 in the cowtowns such as Dodge City than they are now in New York City and even Arkansas! You watch too many movies; you need to get a dose of reality.

The Arkansas Open Carry Law would not allow anyone to carry into places which concealed carry is prohibited.

Support Mark Martin and HB2184!

Steve Jones
Arkansas Carry
www.ArkansasCarry.com

So, let's see. The catch phrase is "if guns are outlawed, only criminals will have guns." Then people who are on a public list threaten those that publish the PUBLIC list. Do they then become criminals, who should have their permits taken away? If not, why not? Are they risking their permits by threatening those that publish those PUBLIC lists?

One would hope so.

Oh, and now that they have protested so much, I'm beginning to think I don't want to go to any public place where people that I don't KNOW gather, because one of those folks that threatened the people that made a PUBLIC list available to everyone might be there. So much for theaters, restuarants, Wal Mart, etc., unless they have metal detectors at the door. I imagine the health food store might be safe, so they are getting' my business for sure!

Those threatening people are NUTS in my book. How fearful ARE they?