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Why the eff is it legal to own a grenade launcher?

Why the eff is it legal for the government to disarm citizens?

"Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry." - Thomas Jefferson

"Why the eff is it legal for the government to disarm citizens?"

Good point, Possum King. Dr. Mann prolly totes those bean-shooters on his matinee dove hunts. Nothing to worry about here.

Aren't "terrorist" and "terrorism" the buzzwords of the century? Reckon this guy might be one? Who knows?

What's really important is that everyone have the right to keep and bear arms.

Possumking,

Um, probably when he BROKE THE LAW by having 110 FULLY AUTOMATIC MACHINE GUNS. Last time I checked, anything beyond Seim-auto was illegal.

Seriously, how many deer out there are wearing enough body armor to warrant a grenade launcher? Since when do you need a fully auto machine gun to hunt turkey?

Arkansas hillbilly, you are absolutely WRONG! Full auto is legal if you've paid the man his fee.

Arkansas hillbilly, you are absolutely WRONG! Full auto is legal if you've paid the man his fee. Obviously, you know nothing about the NFA of 1933, the GCA of 1968 or the FOPA of 1986.

Of course, that brings into question a lot of civil liberty issues in and of itself.

And another thing, where in the Second Amendment does it say ANYTHING about hunting? With your vast knowledge of laws and legal construction of statutes, I'll be anxiously awaiting an answer.

Well Hugh, what the good doctor knows is that someday THEY will be coming for you.
You know THEY WILL.

Then only the Doctor Manns will survive. Those grenade launchers will stave off many a sheriff department and blast away Janet Reno's tanks.

He's looking out for you too Hugh. Just you wait. THEY will be coming for you. Just you wait and see.

Meanwhile it takes lots of Oxycontin to wait. Just ask Rush.

This is what living too close to a nuclear reactor can do to people.

But I'll say one thing, they won't get his fully automatic weapons and grenade launchers until they pry them from his cold dead fingers.

Where's John Anderson?
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You're absolutely right, Possum. We should all be able to own enough fully automatic weapons and explosives to be better equipped than some Marine platoons I was in...

Oh yeah, you mean this one FOPA 1986 which "Prohibits civilians from possessing full-auto firearms manufactured after May 19, 1986. " Moreover, the prohibition comes fromthe Hughes ammendment, "The restrictions on full-auto firearms are a result of the Hughes Amendment (99th Congress, H.AMDT.777). The amendment prohibited the general public from possessing fully-auto firearms manufactured after May 19, 1986. Rep. William Hughes "(Source Gun Law News.com).

It's OK....Dr. Mann has a concealed weapons permit for all his grenades and automatic weapons. He's a law abider, snot a law breaker.

AND Possumking, you forget that these were conficated via a legal search warrant in an investigation of attempted murder.

Sweet Lord, LaPierre was right...the men with the guns make the rules.

If you outlaw M406 destructive devices, only outlaws will have M406 destructive devices.

Clearly, the Bad Doctor needs no firearms. Investigators, as the blog points out, linked EIGHT deaths to his overprescribing of medications.

just to show you how easy it is

RANDEEP S MANN Born Jul 1958

313 Milky Way Ln

LONDON, AR 72847

A few more clicks and I could have a satellite photo of his place

One more click and 4.95 I could have the value of his home and
a minor credit and criminal check.

It's vitally important to own grenade launchers to be able to fight off today's highly advanced Technosquirrels and other Fire-Breathing Rodents. Also, in case the nigras get uppity now that Obama's president.

Oh, yeah, and the Ark Legis will close concealed firearms permits records. No need for anyone to know of the good doctor's proclivities, huh?
Reckon what church he wants to take a hand grenade to?

I dont know what most of that stuff is, but I do have a hard time understanding why anyone needs to own 110 fully automatic machine guns. Believe it or not, I live not too far away from the good doctor (but far enough, thank God), and I have survived all these years without a single machine gun at all.

I understand gun collecting. I dont understand explosive stuff collection or why the devil anyone is allowed to own a grenade launcher. And I will never understand anyone having 110 machine guns. Couldnt even the most dedicated gun collector get by with, say, ten? was he selling these to other people? Maybe thats just how rich people collect guns in India?

I sincerely hope there is no connection between this and the attack on the head of the medical board. thats just too horrible to contemplate.

Louie,

If I'm not mistaken it's the Church of the Smithereens.

How in the world does the press justify leaking this kind of information? I'm outraged!

You have NO right to know I'm concealing an illegal arsenal in my home. These arrest records shouldn't have been released.

It's not too late to amend that bill to require prior approval by the NRA of any mention of a firearm in a news story.

Freedom of the press has gone too far. Sure, this guy was breaking the law, but do we need to know that? It will cast a bad image on all firearm owners. I'm sure he was concerned about defending his home. What's better than a grenade?

I don't care if it means deleting every other amendment in the Bill of Rights, our right to be armed in secrecy should be protected.

A gun-owing criminal plotting to overthrow the US is a better citizen than any newspaper editor. Or even those stupid people who read newspapers, instead of the truth and justice published on freerepublic.com

Arkansas Hillbilly, you obviously didn't read the FOPA of '86. You can still own pre-86 machine guns that were registered prior to 86. Ask me how I know. That's a nice way of repeating that you are still wrong. Very wrong. You couldn't be more wrong.

If the cops had a valid search warrant and found contraband, I have no problem with that. Well, the only problem I have is that the feds have defined contraband in an unconstitutional manner.

"Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry." - Thomas Jefferson

"Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry." - Thomas Jefferson

"Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry." - Thomas Jefferson

"Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry." - Thomas Jefferson

"Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry." - Thomas Jefferson

"Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry." - Thomas Jefferson

"Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry." - Thomas Jefferson

"Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry." - Thomas Jefferson

"Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry." - Thomas Jefferson

"Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry." - Thomas Jefferson

"Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry." - Thomas Jefferson

"Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry." - Thomas Jefferson

"Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry." - Thomas Jefferson

"Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry." - Thomas Jefferson

"Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry." - Thomas Jefferson

HB1623 is pretty darn tyrannical then, wouldn't you agree PossumKing?

Ok, maybe I am not as "informed" as you about gun laws, but then I don't own one, so I don't need to be. A point you seem to have missed in th article, "Agents could not determine registration on 17 of the guns...Mann does not have M406 destructive devices registered. " So in effect, at least 18 of these weapons were ILLEGAL for not having permits. It is still illegal to have rifles and other weapons of this calibre without a permit. That and the explosives charge means his explosives were probably not exactly legal either.

An expert is one who knows more and more about less and less.
- Nicholas Murray Butler

Yes, HB1623 is tyrannical. Any gun licensing scheme is tyrannical and so are the supporting rules and regulations.

And to Ark Hillbilly, it did not escape my notice that some of the weapons weren't registered, but the ATF is notorious for "losing the registrations" of people they are after. What is more disturbing is that there is such a registration scheme in place in the first place. These weapons were perfectly legal in 1986, but then "poof" people suddenly became criminals if they didn't register their weapons. That, my friend, is tyranny. Legal one day, criminal the next.

Hey, can anybody give me a definition for tyranny in the form of a pithy quote that I could repeat over and over?

Thanks in advance.

I can give it to you all you want, but it's up to you to understand it. I see failure in your future.

Is Possum King anything like the Rat King in The Nutcracker?

You know, slavery was legal one day, and illegal the next. How dare those senators and congressmen change the law!

Yet you support HB1623 quite vocally on this site ...

Possum,

We're going to have to agree to disagree on this one. I see no logical reason why someone should need:
98 grenades
40mm HE
M406 rounds
an M203 grenade launcher AND
110 fully automatic machine guns
Permit or not, this seems a bit excessive by any stretch of the imagination. I don't think Oklahoma is going to be launching a full on assault on his property.

If someone wants to own guns for recreational hunting or for personal protection, I'm all for it. However, when you've got enough firepower to launch an assault on a small country I start having problems.

But then I am just an uneducated redneck from the hills of North Central Arkansas, what the heck do I know.

Do you believe in the Constitution? If yes then should their be limits on how many church's you attend, how many articles a newspaper prints or how many homes you own? Then why do you want to limit how many guns he owns? He has a constitutional right to bear arms. There is no mention of, how many arms, in the constitution, only that this right shall not be infringed upon. The government is in the wrong and at some point they are going to push too far and the sleeping giant is going to wake up and trim the tree of liberty. Our forefathers encouraged such pruning when the government becomes tyrannical. Mann was simply preparing for such a time.

"Do you believe in the Constitution? If yes then should their be limits on how many church's you attend, how many articles a newspaper prints or how many homes you own?"

The gun crowd is right now restricting newspaper articles about them. Don't pretend you're a big fan of the constitution. You were probably right there cheering when Bush was elected to wiretap Americans without warrants.

We could replace the president with a dictator and the NRA wouldn't care, as long as people got to own guns.

I've often heard crazy Second Amendment advocates who claim that amendment gives Americans the absolute right to own any weapons they so choose.

If that's true, and if "tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry," as the King o' Possums seems to be claiming, that means if Warren Buffett decides the best way to protect his Omaha home is with a nuclear bomb, he ought to have the right to offer the Ruskies whatever amount of money they agree upon in order to get himself one.

Do any of you that have left comments or have read the blog know Dr. Mann personally? Well, I do! I have called him at home on a Saturday extremely sick and his exact words were, "Girl meet me at the clinic in about 30 minutes!" How many doctors these days go in on their day off to take care of patients? Better yet, has your doctor ever done that for you or is he too busy? Dr. Mann is the only on that I have known in my 38 years of life! He is not a terrorist and any suggestion that he might use the weapons to harm anyone is blatant ignorance! He is a very kind and compassionate man and doctor. For anyone that cares to know the truth, the media failed to inform the public that Dr. Mann owns a firing range here in Russellville, or about the numerous, expensive Dodge Vipers and antique cars that he owns. He is just like any other man and his toys! The guns are nothing but for recreation and are mere toys that most men enjoy playing with! I am outraged that the media has disguised Dr. Mann as a possible threat to the public. We are lucky to have an outspoken doctor like him in our community. Most of the doctors here are "owned" by St. Mary's Hospital because they do not have the guts to stand up to the "owners" of our "great" town like Dr. Mann does. St. Mary's is ranked in the "top 10" most expensive hospitals in the NATION, but Dr. Mann doesn't feel threatened by the hospital; Therefore, he is preyed upon for anything that can be held against him. He is punished because of his outspoken ways and this, no matter how you look at it, is wrong! If this country were smart, they would welcome more doctors like him and readers and bloggers like yourselves would not be so quick to judge!!!!!

What is your weakness? Some women love shoes- therefore have a collection and some love clothes. Some men love guns- have a collection and some love cars. Why do you have them? Because you want them- you enjoy collecting them and having them.
Dr. Mann collects guns. is it a crime? no especially when the FBI, the local police, neighbors, and friends know he has a dealer license for these guns only so that he can own them legally. is it a crime to collect stamps? no. is it a crime to drive a car? if you have a valid license -no -it is not.
It is no shock to anyone that he has all these weapons. And a million dollars to him is hard earned money and his to do as he wishes with it. If he wants to own several vehicles in the half milion price range- go for it- hes earned it! seriously, he owns as much in his automatic weapons as a typical hunter/gun collector would have of thier own rifles/hand guns. Does the average joe have EVERY SINGLE WEAPON registered? or is there one or two or a few that are not? does that make you a criminal? Remember, nobody is perfect. Out of 110 weapons, only 17 were not registered?
you see, certain people get singled out for different reasons. he has no more that the average joe does in property if you compare annual income ratio.
be paranoid, be upset, be a hater, be what you want to be, but the bottom line is dont judge someone from an article you read. judge them by who they are toward you.
in my opinion, Dr. Mann is just like you or me, with some people who are against him for whatever ails them. We will never be perfect and if he gets into trouble for having something not registered then he will have to pay the price for not doing something he is supposed to do. Just like you or me.

AMEN concerned Student!!!!....you totally nailed it on the head!!! He is a strong and great hearted man who has endured much and still have a passion to help others in thier times of need- under many circumstances regardless of how people treat him.
any one who knows him can see through the crap the media makes him out to be.

Thanks "my two cents," but you nailed it when you said, ". . . don't judge someone from an article you read. Judge them by who they are toward you. It is hard to put into words truly how great Dr. Man really is. His wife and kids are just as sweet and compassionate. The kind of passion they have is something that is instilled by a great role model.

My daughters and I are always hugged every time we see the 2 of them in town, and we have not had another doctor who has treated us as equals like he does. How many doctors and their wives do you know like that? Especially when you're a full-time student who doesn't even make a tenth of his salary! Most doctors would snarl their noses down at me as if I were a lesser person because I am poor, but not Dr. Mann or his wife. If I were already licensed, I would PROUDLY work under him as a nurse and broadcast it to the world.

As far as the over-prescribing of medications causing 8 deaths goes: Anyone who knows Dr. Mann knows that he is the only Dr. around that took on those patients and truly cared enough to try to help them gain control of their lives again. He could not be with those patients 24/7 to make certain they took their medication correctly. Methadone is a dangerous drug to begin with, and is known to cause death. Drugs.Com clearly states, "Taking methadone improperly will increase your risk of serious side effects or death. . . Like other narcotic medicines, methadone can slow your breathing, even long after the pain-relieving effects of the medication wear off. Death may occur if breathing becomes too weak. Never use more methadone than your doctor has prescribed. Call your doctor if you think the medicine is not working. Do you know the circumstances to those 8 deaths and whether the patients contacted Dr. Mann or not? No you don't! So how can you judge this man without knowing all of the facts? I had a cousin who died from taking methadone. Does that mean his Dr. killed him too?

People who do not take the opportunity to learn about others before they judge them lose out in life, but I am certainly glad that I have not lost out on knowing such a great man.

Dr. and Mrs. Mann are truly inspirational people and deserve to be treated as such!

I have known Dr. Mann since med school.He is a kind, gentle compassionate physician and has not harmed anyone.
People collect stuff as a hobby, his was guns- for which he got a federal license as a weapons dealer. This would have allowed him to own those weapons and he would have also been properly vetted by the same ATF folks who now have charged him.
His personal investment into those weapons , took those guns off the street where they could have potentially harmed someone.

Dr. Mann was a collector and he was very open about his gun collection. He didn't hide it from anyone! I just wonder how a utility worker that just happened to wander on to Dr. Mann's property to "take a leak" saw "buried" grenades and grenade launchers?!!! If they were buried, how did he see them? This is a witch hunt.