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This is just too sad...what a waste, four lives that will never be productive...and when/if they get out of prison..think they will be rehabilitated??

And another family left to grieve..senseless.

What could have saved these boys?

Maybe you should be asking what could have saved that poor 67 year old man killed while he was minding his own business in his own home? You want to talk about waste....why don't you think of that poor guy and his grieving family?

Would you want them out of prison if that was your Dad lying their bleeding to death on his living room floor? Would you want them "rehabilitated" if that was your child or uncle lying on that floor?

Why do people like you always think of the cold blooded killers before you worry about the victim? In an earlier life I spent a lot of time with the families of victims of violent crime. You have no idea what they go through.

They killed someone. They should go away for life or be executed. End of discussion. But they won't.
I assume they will be charged as adults since the mug shot has been released and the name has been released....but that probably won't do much to ease the pain of the grieving victims family.

And what do you mean....."saved these boys". Saved from what ? They made a decision to kill someone. Did your parents never teach you that decisions have consequences?

As a person who has worked with kids like this, let me tell you: they don't take this seriously. And they don't feel guilty, and they don't give a damn what happens to anyone around them. They're sociopaths, born and bred.

Kids who start off getting into trouble don't recieve severe enough consequences, soon enough. Most of the ones I worked with knew EXACTLY how far they could go with something before they "really" got punished. And they were always going right up against the line--but not far enough to push an authority figure to stand up to them. They are given way to many chances to "do right." Lots of these kids feel entitled. To any and everything they want--and they will raise bloody hell with the parent to get it. As they grow into teens, the entitlement belief continues and they believe no one has a right to deny them anything. Since they've never recieved severe consequences, "who the hell are YOU to tell ME what to do?"

Public schools are notorious for not getting rid of dangerous kids. I know teachers who. after being threatened, have had to ask for legal remedies to prevent a kid from coming within a certain distance of them. This was done because administrators would not follow through on proper discipline proceedings. It kept the kid away from school... But you have administrators who want to keep as many kids in schools as possible because the districts get more funds for each student. So, getting rid of dangerous kids is not a priority: "we have to keep the numbers up." So, schools give dangerous kids too many chances to stay in school and helps send the wrong message.

Lock the kids up--if they're found guilty--and be done with it.

spunkrat,,,I do agree with you about accountability and the "sense of entitlement" that kids have today..want something? Just take it!
Where is the work ethic? Do something wrong.. Nothing happens, you are absolutely right about consequences to bad behavior, we give people way to many chances! Maybe if people had to account for bad behavior/choices at a younger age the prisons would not be bursting with young males.

and Strange, I an very sorry for what happened to that elderly man, in his home ,minding his own business...but Guess What?if this crime had happened in the Heights or out in Norma's neighborhood we would still be hearing about it, and it would be on the news 24/7.
And how indigent everyone would be...but hey...this happened in 72209.

Worrying about helping the dead isn't very helpful, the victim is dead and we can't do a damn thing to make him feel any better. I can see Nanc was just shocked that kids could be so vicious and uncaring. We'll need a whole lot more information about these kids before we can judge them. However, there will be a real Judge in their future whose job it is to judge them and make it stick.

My only guess to why both of my kids turned out to be fabulous humans is that they had constant care and attention from birth. We've been very generous with our time and money and no one walked around the house swinging a belt. But somehow my kids knew better than to come home with a new tat. I'm a nice man, but I would have taken a steel brush to their arm until there was no tat and they know it. I was a good kid because I had a good mother and the scariest dad in town. I didn't worry about the police getting me, I worried about my dad. He's been dead for 27 years and I still worry about my dad.

But none of that will help these kids. For whatever reason they're lives are now over. If they ever get out of prison they'll be old and out of touch with the world and it will be too late to make a life for themselves. They better like hoeing crops and making license plates and buddy-butt sex cause that's their future. It's a shame, but that's what it is.

DBI...Not shocked so much... just saddened that this is the society we live in that young kids, children could do this. I am so grateful for my upbringing and your girls wil be too..but so many people having babies today shouldn't...I work in an NICU and I can tell almost immediately who is equipped for parenthood and who will produce juvenile deliquents. Many, many parents don't have a clue how to raise a child, they don't understand stages of development, how to encourage a child , how to spend time with a child, how to lead by example etc. etc. etc.

I see babies put in DHS custody for drugs, neglect, you name it, yet we give parents chance after chance to "get their act together"...I say 6 months....if you can't do it by then...child goes goes adoption, not eternal hell [foster care]....Too many chances!

Thanks, guys. Now that these boys have been convicted the (new) media I suppose we could skip the trial since it would be a waste of the taxpayers' money.

So right you are Nanc. i adopted my 11yo at the age of 13mths. His birthmother has given birth to 6babies. She isn't responsible for any of them. her first was taken by the state, spent over 5yrs going back and forth until her rights were finally terminated and the foster family allowed to adopt. My son has mental, learning and behavioral problems. I have good insurance but almost had to beg for help for him. He has improved tremendously with the help of counselors, therapists and doctors, great teachers, principles, special ed teachers, etc.
my biggest fear is that love will not be enough and he will end up in prison.

I'm sure the Public Defender will give his best on this case Pea. He always does.

Four sixteen and seventeen year olds together think they are pretty bad stuff. But what just happened. Three just ratted on one. And they are crying like babies before the judge, but the one has no remorse. That just doesn't set up very well for a jury trial of Mr. Terry.

This was a terrible crime. The kids are responsible for their actions, not their parents. The parents are only guilty of giving them everything they want. We all are guilty of that. Society is responsible because these crimes happen on a daily basis. I cannot say these children were on drugs, but alot of the crime today is because of drugs. Not illegal ones. I'm talking about the ones our tax dollars pay for every day. On the first of the month you can hear it all over. "I have to go get my medication". These are the people on SSI (because they are addicts) who get a check to live on, and free medical (through medicaid) so they can stay addicts, that go to several different doctors so they can "get their medication" several times over, so they can sell the excess on the streets to kids who get everything they want. As this problem grows so will the crimes.

Ok.

Where's the father(s)? Why is always the mommas giving the interviews?

We all are guilty of that. Society is responsible because these crimes happen on a daily basis.

JAN , MY OPINION IS LIKE THIS IF YOU REALLY FEAL LIKE THAT YOU SHOULD GO DOWN TO THE PROSECUTING ATT AND ASK HIM TO FILE CHARGES ON YOU AS AN ACCESSORY TO MURDER. THESE SO CALLED KIDS NEW WHAT THEY WERE DOING AND DID NOT CARE. 20 YEARS AGO PEOPLE LIKE YOU SAID KIDS DID THESE THINGS BECAUSE THERE PARENTS WERE TO HARD ON THEM NOWTHEY SAY PARENTS ARE TO SOFT. PUT THE BLAME WHERE IT BELONGS.

Has anyone seen one word about the fathers of these kids? Picture of distraught mothers in the Dem-Gaz. Interview with the mom on FOX. Where are the fathers? Folks. It is going to get worse. 44.6% of babies born to unmarried mothers last year. Going up by about 1% a year.

Stash is right.

The Homosexual agenda must be resisted at all costs so that we can defend marriage.

If society let's homo's marry then all same sex marriages will disolve instead of just the 1/2 that do now.

I think the question is why ANYONE is giving interviews. If it were me, the consistent answer to any questions would be no comment and no pictures.
Same with Jenny Sanford, to say nothing of her husband.

To Cato and Stash: Katie Pierce told news people, " . . . we gave him everything," which leads me to believe that there is a father in the picture, at least in that household.
I don't think you can place wholesale blame on households headed by unmarried women. I've seen some fine kiddies come out of such households, just as I've seen some truly vicious little brats in those two parent households where mum and dad gave them everything.
I suspect the deciding factor is good parenting (whether or not it meets your standards/ideas of good parenting -- or mine) and a lot of luck.
And maybe DBI's steel brush rule for absolute no-nos. For him, it was tattoos. Around here, it was don't hurt the dog (or cat). That one still stands in this househould, by the way. If your children can't abide by that rule, they're not welcome. If you take offense, you're not either. (And hubby's tougher about this than I am if you can believe that.)

THEY SIMPLY HAVE NO RESPECT FOR LIFE, THEIRS, YOURS , MINE, OR THE GUY THEY SHOT. SUCH A HUMAN TRAGEDY... BET A SPANKING OR TWO WOULD OF DONE WONDERS IN THE EARLY YEARS.. YOU CANNOT EXPECT TO "GET CONTROL" OF A KID AT 14-15 AND NEVER WORRY ABOUT IT BEFORE. IT STARTS AT BIRTH AND IT NEVER LETS UP. THEY HAVE TO BE TAUGHT THE GOLDEN RULE AND MAKE IT STICK.

Is that the Golden Rule that goes, "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you or they will beat your ass?" (And then, pass it along.)

Gee, if they had been white they wouldn't have bothered with this man, they would have gone into banking or health insurance and , where they can kill thousands really easily without being jailed.

Or perhaps politics, where the same can be done.

Oh, and made millions doing it.

Such is the sociopathic way. It also shows us where the privilege is.

Good point about this:
"Ok.

Where's the father(s)? Why is always the mommas giving the interviews?

Posted by: Cato"

People often point fingers at the mothers, while letting the fathers off the hook. If these boys had had decent fathers in their lives, they may have turned out better.

But, with sociopaths ya never know. Look at some of them in politics and business, who are willing to maim and kill to make a buck so THEY can live in style.