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Lincoln distrusts government UPDATE

Sen. Blanche Lincoln told the Farm Bureau she's cool toward a government option on health insurance.

Right, senator. It's a disaster to get government into the insurance business. Like crop insurance. Wouldn't want government messing with that. And we wouldn't want government subsidizing farmers either. Hell, government screws up everything it touches.

UPDATE: Ernie Dumas, back from vacation, has written so helpfully on this topic -- including an explanation of Lincoln's erroneous statements about the proposal -- that I'm moving up publication of his weekly column to today.

By ERNEST DUMAS

In the historic eruption of insanity and ignorance that has been the public health-care debate of 2008-09, the most nonsensical idea that surfaced was that the world would end if the government ever got into the business of insuring something.
For a while, it cropped up at town-hall forums all over the country, spurred by commercials and blogs engineered by the insurance industry and its fellow travelers.

“Ohmigod, what’s our country coming to — now the government is going to run health insurance!” screamed people who were insured by Medicare and the Veterans Administration or else longed for the day they could be.
People lose their senses in herds and regain them slowly, one by one, as a Scottish songwriter and journalist observed in a wonderful history of popular delusions composed after a long visit to America 150 years ago. Mercifully, the government-insurance hysteria seems to have subsided in most places except in the darkest precincts of Republican orthodoxy. Polls show that a vast majority of Americans favor the government offering health insurance to poorer working people, and big Democratic majorities in Washington now favor it.

One of the few places that the folly really seems to have taken hold is Arkansas, where the newspapers march to the same beat as Fox News and Rush Limbaugh. The two Arkansas lawmakers who found themselves at the center of the health debate in Washington owing to the accident of their committee assignments, Sen. Blanche Lincoln and Rep. Mike Ross, now seem so convinced that Arkansas voters are terrified of government insurance they have shrunk into a corner where they must vote against health reform that both have said was the nation’s first order of business.

What pathetic irony it will be if Sen. Lincoln turns out to be the only Democrat in the Senate to support a filibuster to prevent a majority vote on health reform and perhaps is the person who brings down the health bill and along with it the president and her party. That from the state that produced Joe T. Robinson of Lonoke, the Senate majority leader who engineered the greatest insurance program in history, government or private — Old Age, Survivors and Disability Insurance (to the teabaggers, that’s Social Security) — and Wilbur D. Mills of Kensett, who produced the next two, Medicare and Medicaid.
Yes, those are government insurance programs and sometimes even Sen. Lincoln brandishes them as marvels of government good works. At a forum last week she responded to one questioner this way: “However, at least three of the programs you mentioned, Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, are the most successful social programs in the world” and she added that the country should build on their success.

But not apparently by giving people who don’t have health insurance the chance to buy a policy like Medicare rather than a Blue Cross plan.

Lincoln has been a curious and sad spectacle. Because she was a conscious middle-of-the-roader in a pivotal position and because she was known to be susceptible to pressures, the insurance industry, Republicans and the other foes of health reform have concentrated their fire on her. So has the other side.

She waffled, insisting that she had not made up her mind on a public insurance option and leaving herself room to vote for one. She said she would oppose a public plan that was completely funded by the government (none of the proposals in either house would do that) or one that did not give people options to buy elsewhere (ditto). Finally, like Ross in the House, she just came out flatly against it. No other member of the Arkansas delegation except the Republican John Boozman has done so.
Ross would remind a Medicare recipient who was railing against the prospect of government insurance that his beloved Medicare was government insurance. Then he would say he was against a government insurance option, although once he seemed to suggest letting people buy into Medicare. Ross once worried that a government-sponsored plan would be so cheap that everyone would flock to it, driving all the private carriers like Blue Cross, Cigna and Aetna out of business. Last week, he said so few people would buy the government plan that it would not be a competitive deterrent to the big private companies jacking up their premiums. That is the kind of year it has been.

Here is a question for Lincoln, Ross, the teabaggers and all the others who are driven to wails and tears about the prospect of the government offering to insure medical care for the working poor at reasonable premiums: If government insurance is so invidious would they be willing to cancel it for other services, not just Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, but veterans care, unemployment insurance or bank deposit insurance, just to name a few? What is the difference?
Six months ago, Senator Lincoln condemned President Obama for trying to reduce the federal budget by cutting the large taxpayer contribution to a government insurance program that she cherishes, the USDA’s crop reinsurance program. Lincoln comes from a farm family and agriculture is her political base.

Government insurance for the prosperous is a good thing; the same option for the toiling poor is a danger to the republic. That is the kind of year it has been.

Comments

I thought it was particularly rich when Senator Lincoln bloviated about the possible cost of a public option when she has been pushing a $400 billion estate tax giveaway. I suppose her position is that the government doesn't have money to spend on poor people with no health insurance because, well, that money should go to those rich paragons who have worked very, very hard to inherit great wealth:

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=2759

Lincoln's beliefs along with her style of governance (feed the rich looters... let the poor pay for it while wages decline, health is suffering and dying) and to many Americans style of voting for the likes of all our AR politicians is the very reason there is so little trust... We keep electing saboteurs like Lincoln who milk it/us for everything we have... while expecting different results.

It's like promoting a voodoo doctor who doesn't believe in modern medicine to run your local hospital.

Plantation Blanche is loved by these farm cretins because she's led the pack in making sure low paid farm laborers and food handlers will not receive health care... may she be the first to choke on some tainted pork or lettuce.

Blanche is cool on the Public Option because she's paid to be cool about it. How embarrassing to finally figure out we've had the wrong Senators in DC all these years. Why were we ever stupid enough to elect Blanche Lambert Lincoln? And will we let her 4 million dollar campaign war chest get her elected again? When someone is as sorry as Lincoln, her cash should be nothing but trash.

Blanche must know she's falling down the well, yet she keeps pushing her own self. Her payday must be a big one to keep up this charade of "I hear you", "I'll keep your views in mind as I cast my votes (against you)." She's not listening apparently because her ears have been well paid to keep shut. What about the ears of her little buddy Mark Pryor? Not a peep out of little Marky. Has he no thoughts on health care reform? Has C Street got his tongue?

In the name of Arkansas everyone of our DC representatives in Congress are making us look like fools. Boozman I get, he's hardwired, the rest are the big surprise. They're not anti-health care reform, they're pro-money in their pockets. They are most certainly, at the end of the day, up in DC representing themselves. They're looking out for their best interests, not ours. Not a single one deserves reelection. In fact they should be run out of office early.

There are people out there who know career-ending secrets about our reps. Let them come forward and save us from future embarrassments and bad votes. Speak up now, save us now. You know who you are.........Do it!

I know trying to oust an incumbent and not lose to the opposing party is a longshot, but if Blanche decides to block this, I for one will not vote for her again, and I will actively work to end her tenure in office. It's ridiculous to keep electing someone who calls themselves a Democrat, but functionally is all but a Democrat.

Blanche... this is your LAST chance.

Even the WSJ polling can't *****hide the support anymore:

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2009/10/27/2109332.aspx

UPTICK IN SUPPORT FOR PUBLIC OPTION

Posted: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 1:00 PM by Mark Murray

According to the poll, 48% say they favor a public health plan administered by the federal government that would compete with private insurers, compared with 42% who oppose it. That's a shift from last month, though within the margin of error, when 48% opposed the public option and 46% supported it. And it's a 10-point swing from August, when 47% were in opposition and 43% were in favor.

*******In another question asked a different way -- is it important to give people a choice of a public option? -- a combined 72% answered that it was either "extremely important" or "quite important," while just 23% said it was "not that important" or "not at all important." Those numbers are virtually unchanged from last month.

The NBC/WSJ poll, which was conducted Oct. 22-25, has a margin of error of +/- 4.4% on these two questions. The full poll will be released on Nightly News, and MSNBC.com, beginning at 6:30 pm ET.

I really don't understand how people like Blanche are able to sleep at night.

I really don't understand how people like Blanche are able to sleep at night. (Maybe on a bed of money?)

I'm suprised that she didn't vote with the 30 Republicans who wanted to legalize rape.

I get the sense Lincoln is just going for the money now. I see no way she can win reelection. The Republicans will not vote for her period. She has lost all the progressives and likely the non-white voters across the whole state.

polecat, I've got the answer to your question: Vampires and other bloodsuckers don't sleep at night.

All I ask is for the chance to serve one term. I do support a Public Option for Health Care. I support the Employee Free Choice Act. I support ENDA and ending DADT.

If you read the latest date, agriculture accounts for only 20% of jobs in Arkansas. Manufacturing and Professional jobs account for over 50% of our state's industry. Blanche Lincoln likes to tout that she is Chair of the Agriculture Committee now....but this is not where the majority of our state's workforce is based. We need balance.

Most of all, 25% of our state is without health care. We need a Senator who will fight to make sure those 683,000+ Arkansans are covered. I am a two time cancer survivor. I understand firsthand the cost of health care and how disastrous it can be. Its unfair that people have to choose....and people do....between going to the doctor and getting groceries. These are no longer the extreme anymore. We need an advocate in Washington, D.C. and anyone who knows me knows I am not afraid to stand up and speak out. Thats what we need.

I am stepping up and asking for one term to make a difference.

http://www.PrittForArkansas.com/

Well, I fired off another letter to Lincoln with no hope of getting a response. Must be in the "left fringe" file at Blanche's HQ...

I know that you staffers are reading this thread. Do you really think any republicans or progressive independents and democrats will support your boss in her bid for re-election? You'd do well to wise her up. No more "lesser of two evils..."

Consider this: When I get my ballot I'll appropriately leave it "Blank."

What a damn shame...

I tried to read more about your positions on your website Mr. Pritt, but there is nothing there other than a campaign logo.

How disappointing to see Senator Lincoln pandering like this. It just reeks of desperation.

My website will be up soon. Its under construction. I will get a blog up until the full website goes up. If you want to know something about my stance on the issues, ask me, and I will answer.

My website will be up soon. Its under construction. I will get a blog up until the full website goes up. If you want to know something about my stance on the issues, ask me, and I will answer.

" 'Creating another government-funded option is not where we're going. We don't need to go there,' Lincoln told members of the Arkansas Farm Bureau during a video conference. 'A government-funded option is something that I think is not the way to go.' "

My understanding is that the public option insurance being proposed would be actuarially sound, charging premiums high enough to cover benefits. If so, Blanche is not being strictly honest when she talks about a "government-funded option." At least Nancy Pelosi doesn't agree with her (for whatever that's worth), according to a quote in this morning's alleged newspaper: "When people think of the public option, public is being misrepresented, that this is being paid for with their public dollars."

Blanche may not know it yet, but now YOU do. This just received from MoveOn.
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Now we have some important news of our own: In this weekend's member vote, 93% of MoveOn members agreed that any senator who helps block an up-or-down vote on a health care bill with the public option should lose the support of all five million of us-no donations, no volunteering, and no help getting out the vote.

To make sure conservative Democrats hear that message loud and clear, we're launching an emergency campaign to press them to support an up-or-down vote. We've got ad makers working on scripts and volunteers setting up events in key states.


Oh, yeah.

Drew?

I'll take an honest drag queen any day over what we've got now. I posted this elsewhere yesterday. Good luck and best wishes.

__________________________

Mother always used to tell me, "If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all."

Happily, I never listened to Mama or I'd be running a "Crowning Glory" beauty salon out of a single-wide in Bearden.

So let's get down to brass tacks about Sen. Lincoln. Here's what we KNOW (forget rumors of her status vis-a-vis closets):

1) Sen. Lincoln is bought and paid for by the health insurance lobby (see clicky). "The senior Arkansas senator is also the top recipient of campaign contributions from the health industry among senators this year. . . . According to the Center for Responsive Politics, Lincoln has received $325,350 in contributions from the health industry, as of June 30."

2) Sen. Lincoln is a theocratic religious bigot who approves legal discrimination against same-sex Americans. (The ONLY reason to approve that discrimination is religion; there are no scientific or otherwise objective reasons. Legalized discrimination based on a state religion is a theocracy. Fundamentally un-American.)

3) Sen. Lincoln embodies this dictionary definition: "A person considered as having compromised principles for personal gain."

4) Sen. Lincoln is, by actions and definition, an un-American theocratic whore.

Just the facts, Razorbabies.

I love me some Norma! Right on...

I expect Bill Halter to jump into this race. Pritt can't win with his baggage. Halter has the name recognition and money to give a run.

Baggage....please. I should be so lucky.

Seriously....we have seen this Hamlet routine before but the Lt. Governor is his own person and can make his own decision. But that would mean going back on what he told the press just days ago.

Like Clinton did in 1992?

Uncommon Sense....I know Bill Clinton. I worked for Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton is a hero of mine.
Bill Halter is no Bill Clinton!

I think the time has come to form a new movement or organization. We shall call it VOICE which stands for Vote Out Incumbents Can Em-all. Sure we would lose a few good ones, but the overall effect would be positive. Wish I knew how to get this movement started. Go Drew.

I just remember in 2006 when Drew was making vitriolic attacks on Halter, who was running against ilk like Tim Wooldridge. It was pretty pathetic.

Personally I don't care if miss blanche runs or doesn't, whether she wins or loses or anything in between. She is going to do what she thinks will keep her in office. Unfortunately, for the people on this blog the vast majority of Arkansans don't bear any resemblance to the thinking on this blog.

Uncommon Sense, you are obviously either Bill Halter or one of his lackeys.

You know what....say what you want about me, but be careful what you say about good and decent men like Tim Wooldridge. Tim is a man of honor, who served with distinction in the Arkansas State Senate, and who has sense continued to give back to our state since the 2006 election. The only "ilk" are hacks like you who come on here, don't know anything but how to be a lapdog, and talk trash all behind the safety of a screenname. You don't have the guts to say this trash publicly. Tim Wooldridge is a good man and you have nothing but a misplaced sense of loyalty. You talk about vitrol....its you and speaking ill of good men, like Tim Wooldridge.

Tim Wooldridge, who advocated public executions, is a lobbyist now, pulling in the big bucks. One of the good ol' boys in Arkansas politics that I despise. They're the ones, like Death Star Johnson, who keep this state at the bottom of state statistics. All Halter did was single-handedly get a program going to provide $100 million a year in college scholarships to educate Arkansans.
Sorry Drew. Facts hurt.

Lincoln can shape up or ship out. Hope she will do the right thing on health insurance reform.
I am not holding my breath.
Drew Pritt, how much money do you think you can raise in the next six months?

Uncommon Sense....lets talk FACTS.

1.) It was I, not Bill Halter, who first proposed the Education Lottery. In fact, I suggested a state run program, rather than the private company, that administers the present form.

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-141993802.html

http://lynchlarge.blogspot.com/2005_10_01_archive.html

2.) Bill Halter is a multi millionaire who came back to Arkansas to buy the Lt. Governor's office after living out of state for 25 years with more than 50% of his contributions coming from the state of California.

3.) Bill Halter serves on the Board of a company (Akamai Technologies) that secretly piped porn touted as the "Web's youngest teen girls" in sex acts , as well as off-shore gambling sites, into several universities. Bill Halter's only defense when confronted with his connection to pornography and gambling was to say he didn't know about it. However, a board member is legally responsible for the actions of a company. Halter didn't deny it; the company's representatives didn't deny it.

4.) Tim Wooldridge and I disagreed on the death penalty....for the record I am the ONLY statewide candidate in a major party since 2006 to publicly come out AGAINST the death penalty.

5.) Tim Wooldridge is a lobbyist for the Arkansas Association of Public Universities. The AAPU was created by a group of visionary leaders who realized that the future of our state depends on a knowledge based economy and that elevating higher educationin the minds of Arkansans is critical to the future economic success of our state.

The facts are clear.

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Kizzy, I am not sure at this moment. I retained the services of a professional fundraiser today and we are building a team. In the next six months....the hardest to raise, I would like to raise $50K-$100K. While it pales in comparison to the war chest of Lincoln, thats substantial enough to be a credible statewide campaign.

And Drew, just for the record:
Halter graduated from Stanford U and received a master's degree in economics as a Rhodes Scholar at Oxford.
Halter was the chief economist for the Senate Finance Committee in the 1980s. He worked in the White House in the Clinton adminitration in the 1990s and help balance the budget.
He was deputy commissioner, then acting commissioner, of the Social Security Administration under Clinton.
You're still trying to graduate college after umteen years, were charged under the hot check law, entered and then dropped out of god-knows how many races.
Who should I trust?
Easy answer.

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