The South's religions: Prayer, football
The NY Times visits Fort Oglethorpe, Ga., where the school board decided that proselytizing banners waved at football games by public school cheerleaders probably were a religious incursion too far into separation of church and state. Fans have responded by making religious banners to wave at games on their own.
More power to the pious fans. And good on the revivalists who gather by rivers everywhere, including North Little Rock, to dedicate their lives to Christ. Let all worship and witness however they choose, so long as it's not promoted, staged or financially supported by government money. Seems simple. Not in the Bible Belt.





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By God --- 'scuse me --- by golly, maybe it's time the Hogs took to prayin. Seems to me that the only thing we're getting better at is making post-game explanations and promises. First, we need to pray that our stone hands are healed. Second, pray that the offensive line can get their feet out of those concrete booties. Next, deliver us from bonehead penalties. I command you, bone: Come outa that head!
Posted by: Louie
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October 27, 2009 06:59 AM
I've learned many times over that disscussing politics with anyone you don't know is stupid enough but disscussing religion in the south with anyone wheather with your Dr, Servie Technician, Pew Comrad etc., one has to have rocks for brains.....!
In this regard.....
An Atheist's Review of the Book of Genesis Illustrated by a Legendary Comics Artist
By Greta Christina, Greta Christina's Blog. Posted October 24, 2009.
Many formerly- Christian atheists say that one of the most important steps on their journey to atheism was actually reading the Bible, and seeing that (a) it's a horror show, and (b) it makes no sense. And we atheists are always asking believers to actually read the sacred texts of their beliefs, to find out if they actually believe that stuff. This vivid, unforgettable, beautifully delineated, sometimes touching, often horrifying, intensely human, word- for- word graphic depiction of the seminal book of the Bible is right up our alley. I recommend it heartily.
Posted by: BWC
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October 27, 2009 07:14 AM
I will tell you what. It sickens me that colleges are required to install foot baths for other religions but Christians cannot show how they feel in public because of a few radical people in this country. Why do we not have the ACLU defending Christian rights? Take your " holiday tree " and shove it.
Posted by: grump56
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October 27, 2009 07:59 AM
BWC, thank you for the blog reference. I just spent a half-hour there and on links from there.
grump, WTF are you talking about? I would object to taxpayer-supported foot baths as much as taxpayer-supported rosary beads if they should exist. Of course, I know that the foot baths create a scarier image for xenophobes. Nice pick.
Posted by: Doc
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October 27, 2009 08:12 AM
I've gotten a lot more tolerant of people expressing their religiosity, as long as it doesn't hurt other people. I've gotten very tired of Who Would Jesus Hate or Who Would Jesus Kill as a fervent expression of "Christianity." I find a lot that is uplifting and inspirational in Christianity, but those parts have not survived well in competition with the more hateful perversions.
I can believe an earlier commenter truly feels that Christianity is under attack in America, but it is really the past, unquestionned domination of all American society by Christianity that is "under attack." What has been asserted in the past few decades is the Constitutionally guaranteed right for others to be something else.
This situation is similar, I think, to the fear some whites have that they are under attack, when it is the complete, unquestionned dominance of whites over everyone else that is being challenged.
Posted by: Earl Babbie
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October 27, 2009 08:13 AM
In 1861, President Jefferson Davis was baptized in the Episcopalian Church to "God was on the side of the Confederacy."
It's hard to imagine President Lincoln even considering such action.
And people are still shake their head about religion in the South?
Posted by: Cato
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October 27, 2009 08:21 AM
Again, the lies and myths about ACLU being anti-christian surface. In fact, they've done numerous cases defending Christians wishing to freely practice their beliefs under the law. Click on name for a lengthy list of those cases, each one with a link to the details of the case involved.
It's OK to be a christian but not OK to be a christian jerk trying to ram your religion down other folks' collective throats. These vain Pharisees of phony piety need to practice their hokey holiness in the privacy of their own water closets. That way their outpourings we'll be headed in the right direction when they're done.
Posted by: Jake da Snake
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October 27, 2009 08:22 AM
--to "assure----
Posted by: Cato
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October 27, 2009 08:23 AM
"Again, the lies and myths about ACLU being anti-christian surface. In fact, they've done numerous cases defending Christians wishing to freely practice their beliefs under the law. Click on name for a lengthy list of those cases, each one with a link to the details of the case involved."
I've decided, jake, that our nutty christians, especially the southern brand, only know one mode: The persecution mode. Even when they've managed to 'bring god BACK to the White House by electing Monkeyboy' and gain control the Senate and the House they still yammer on about all those mythical christian persecutions. To quote Bill Maher, 'The sorest winners ever.' Guess it gets collection plates filled, TVs tuned in and the base riled up.
Too bad, jake, that your facts and factual link won't deter grump56 from believing whatever lies best serve his religious view.
Posted by: zelda
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October 27, 2009 08:58 AM
Speaking of predatory delusional belief systems - "Scientologists convicted of fraud" (in France)
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/28/world/europe/28france.html
Can there be similar justice soon in U.S courts? nah :(
Posted by: YossarianMinderbinder
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October 27, 2009 02:07 PM
Grump, I want to know more about those foot baths on campus. Are they in the student union? Bathrooms? Chapels? Are they for Primitive Babtists? Aren't they the ones who believe you can't get to heaven unless you wash your feet? I always thought all Babtists were Christians, although I will admit I haven't attended services in every last sect and cult of Balkanized Babtists.
Is there some other religion you don't like where they wash their feet in an un-Christian way? Are you just opposed to clean feet? Do you know about religious implications of trimming toenails that I'm also unaware of?
Do you feel stupid? Because I feel your stupidity, and your hate, and your powerful and righteous sense of entitlement. You also sound pretty jealous about other people getting their feet washed. Can't reach your feet to wash them yourself? Hands broke or something? Go to Hot Springs and ask a cab driver. He'll hook you up with a nice Christian girl who will wash your feet and do other things for you better than you can all by yourself.
Posted by: Whoscrumdown
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October 27, 2009 04:05 PM
Max, thanks for simply showing the world that all liberals aren't out to kill Christianity. This is exactly why some of us Christians are able to read things such as the Arkansas Times regardless of the persecution we may recieve from our "brothers".
Some of us understand that whole church & state thing, and don't have a problem with it. Jesus doesn't need our help in fighting what the law says. As a matter of fact, I'm pretty sure he told us to obey the law and move on with our lives. While we are busy making signs to protest, 16,000 kids die of starvation every day. Jesus didn't protest, he help people. My how we have gotten off track.
Posted by: Aaron B. Reddin
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October 27, 2009 06:14 PM