Arkansas Times

The Hoglawyer

Dedicated to Arkansas politics and the law.

« Summer Salsa Party - Wednesday Night | Main | I'd Like Three Representatives And Two Senators To Go Please »

To Debate Or Not To Debate, That Is The Question


You know who i like? Rod Bryan. I bet I agree with him on 90% of the issues he endorses. That doesn't mean I have to vote for him.. You know who else I like? Jim Lendall. Like Rod, Lendall is a great guy. Lendall was even a state representative for eight years. I'm not voting for him either. Who remembers Ralph Forbes?  As Justice Anthony Kennedy wrote in Forbes v. AETN, "Forbes was a perennial candidate who had sought, without success, a number of elected offices in Arkansas." Forbes, like Warren Carpenter before him, and like Bryan and Lendall now, ran his campaigns on little or no money, staff, or mainstream support. Like Bryan, Forbes badly wanted some free air time as could be provided by a televised debate. In 1992, he sued to be allowed to participate claiming that a tax-payer funded television station, AETN, could not keep out candidates just because they were not in one of the two major parties. Forbes had accumulated 6,000 signatures in support of hid candidacy.
    The U.S. Supreme Court specifically held that AETN's decision to exclude Ralph Forbes from the televised debate did not violate the 1st amendment. They court wrote that the televised debate was not a public forum – that is, it was not open to just anyone who wished to speak on any topic. The Court majority agreed that Forbes was not being excluded from the debate because of his political views. Instead, he was being excluded because he had not generated “appreciable public support.” As long as the AETN's  exclusion of Forbes was reasonable and viewpoint neutral, it did not violate the 1st amendment. The Court's decision was more based on journalistic discretion than on whether a public television network had to treat all candidates equally. The Court wrote

Much like a university selecting a commencement speaker, a public institution selecting speakers for a lecture series, or a public school prescribing its curriculum, a broadcaster by its nature will facilitate the expression of some viewpoints instead of others. Were the judiciary to require, and so to define and approve, pre-established criteria for access, it would risk implicating the courts in judgments that should be left to the exercise of journalistic discretion.

There are only four candidates in the Governor's race. What if there were ten? Twenty? Should AETN have to host a debate with twenty candidates, only two of whom have greater than 1% name recognition and support? Few journalists would sponsor or participate in such a debate Does anyone think AETN or any other station should or would host a debate with twenty or even ten candidates? The Court found “Were it faced with the prospect of cacophony, on the one hand, and First Amendment liability, on the other, a public television broadcaster might choose not to air candidates' views at all.” Should write-in candidates be allowed to debate too? No one is suggesting that AETN must host a debate. I agree if there were 10 or 15 candidates, they would host a debate at all..
    Of course in this race there are not ten, but only four. Regardless, the principal still applies -  the major candidates decided they did not want to debate if faced with being given the same forum as the most minor candidates. The choice then for the station is either no debate or a debate that only includes the major candidates. I agree with the Supreme Court that as long as candidates are not excluded by a taxpayer subsidized television station for having unpopular views, there is no 1st amendment violation for keeping out the minor candidates. This is not to say that all the candidates could not be given some free forum – such as a post-debate response speech or an hour long interview. Again, journalistic freedom is at stake and even a public television station should have the freedom of the press to make such decisions without court interference.
    I'm curious what Bryan and Lendall would prefer – a debate  between just Hutchinson and Beebe, or no debate at all? That is the real issue in this controversy. Between now and the last debate, I'll use my journalistic discretion and give both candidates an opportunity to answer that question.
    To be fair to Bryan, he doesn't take a legalistic stand in support of his request to be allowed to participate in the debates. Instead, he lambastes both the major candidates for refusing to debate him. Recently someone offered to debate George Bush. He said,

I suggest we talk with Mr Bush, the president of the United States, in a live television debate about world issues and ways out of these standoffs. We would voice our opinions and they would too. The debate should be uncensored, above all for the American public.

These remarks are by the Iranian President Ahmadinejad. I'm not comparing Bryan to the president of Iran, but I am saying that Beebe, Hutchinson, and George Bush may have legitimate and practical reasons for ducking their respective debate challengers.

the hoglawyer
hoglawyer@gmail.com

Comments

Two big problems with these "debates."

1. The candidates initiated them and then "invited" themselves to be invited by student groups on taxpayer financed campuses at no expense to the campaigns.

2. They are not open to the pubilc at large. The only way to get a ticket is to go through the campaign or to be a student.

I'm encouraging students to shut these sham debates down with civil disobedience. Shout them down two by two until they fold up tent and go home. Anyone who has a problem with that needs to look at the first amendment.

I really appreciate the sophisticated bottom line Hoglawyer supplies. Civil disobediance is fine but until a third party can compete w capital, remember Perot, alternatives are as they say, shit our of luck.

Post a comment

(If you haven't left a comment here before, you may need to be approved by the site owner before your comment will appear. Until then, it won't appear on the entry. Thanks for waiting.)

Green Party offers green candidate in District 39
Date: 7/3/2008
By: John C. Williams

Though Arkansas House races aren't usually a cause for excitement, this year's election in District 39 (North Little Rock) will draw some attention. /more/

Instant response
Date: 7/3/2008
By: Arkansas Times Staff

The Insider reported last week that a recent feature on "Power Women" in the society magazine Soiree was a paid feature and that, among the payees, was the city of Little Rock, which paid $1,770 for Vice Mayor Stacy Hurst's profile and photograph. /more/


Hope for the unarmed
Date: 7/3/2008
By: Arkansas Times Staff

Pleased by the U.S. Supreme Court decision in favor of guns, the president of the Arkansas Rifle and Pistol Association told newspaper reporters that the ruling would make it harder for legislators to introduce limits on gun ownership. /more/

Home / Blogs / This Week / Entertainment / Real Estate / Classifieds / Subscribe / Contact