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Re: “Fact check: The annual anti-abortion march

Steve,

You are right in your post that the Covington students were taunted by a group of black Jewish activists. Perhaps taunted is a mild word to describe their obscene retorts. You are right that the Covington students had been provoked before the incident recorded on You-Tube.
Yet I wish to concentrate upon the actions of Nick Sandmann, the student, and Nathan Phillips, the former marine, Vietnam Veteran, and native American.
During my tours in the Far East, I have on many occasions been struck by the acts of reverence and deference demonstrated by Asians toward their elders. I witnessed in Korea, taxis driven by slightly crazy cab drivers, come to a screeching halt in the rivers of death, euphemistically called streets, to await an elderly couple crossing the street who were assisted by young Korean strangers, holding the seniors' arms to make it to the other side. I have seen a Korean female principal standing at the entrance of a Korean middle school while the young students would bow to her as they entered. I once saw a Chinese cab driver in Hong Kong help an elderly man out of his taxi and then, when the elder went for his purse, the driver, with a wave of his hand, refused the fee, got back in his taxi and drove away. Once in Korea, a Navy officer, whom I was accompanying, and I got up from our seats in a over crowded bus in Pusan, and gave them to two elderly Korean ladies. Spontaneously, a loud murmur of awe and appreciation wafted from the lips of all aboard the bus. Several men jumped up and offered us their seats, yet we politely refused. One of them stated that they had never seen Americans perform such an act - needless to say, we were both ashamed.
It pains me when I am in the States and see a dearth of such respect to our elders. I have often observed on crowded buses, young teenage boys staring at standing pregnant women or bend-over seniors while remaining in the comfort of their seats.

To me, there was a similar lack of respect in the confrontation of Nick Sandmann, the student, toward the elder Nathan Phillips. Sandman makes this clear in his response for the weak excuse he gave for the confrontation.

"I respect this persons right to protest and engage in free speech activities, and I support his chanting on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial any day of the week, Sandmann wrote. I believe he should re-think his tactics of invading the personal space of others, but that is his choice to make. In Sandmann's view, his personal space is an area with a radius of three feet or more...an area that was once reserved for medieval royalty. Sandmann admitted he was trying to "diffuse" (sic) a situation, yet Nathan Phillips was not posing any threat, was not making vile remarks, and was not in any way become belligerence by beating a drum.
I cannot interpret Sandmann's facial expression in any other fashion than that of a smirk. I cannot support Sandmann's interpretation that Nathan Phillips had no right to come within Sandmann's "personal space" of a three foot radius. Sandmann was not, in my way of thinking, trying to defuse anything - he was consummating an arrogant teenager's stance to try and intimidate an elder...an elder, whom I fully believe, was honestly trying to defuse an intolerable situation with four foul mouthed religious fanatics.
I am not upset with you, Steven...I am still trying to understand the difference between Public Works and Social Works that you and Plainjim steered me to. Please give me some more time to absorb their meaning and thank you both for enlightening me on their concepts.

Posted by theBMC1 on 01/21/2019 at 12:51 PM
Posted by Vanessa on 01/21/2019 at 12:34 PM

Re: “Fact check: The annual anti-abortion march

Sarge, you look for glory, I simply embrace the truth.

Facts:
THe students did NOT confront and surround a native american drummer.

THey DID stand up to homophobic remarks by a verified (by the SPLC) hate group.

Whatever the details gleaned from that, NONE of the students deserve the hate, violence and nastiness of the rhetoric from the left. People are calling for violence against the student. They are calling for expulsion, and the kids did nothing deserving of that.

Now you want to bring up the border crisis, and ignore the posts I posted, from Mexican media outlets detailing the crimes of the invaders in Mexico, and their attempts to rush the border.

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Posted by Steven E on 01/21/2019 at 12:20 PM

Re: “Fact check: The annual anti-abortion march

KKKDUKE, you exemplify the problem with discourse. You epitomize the lies and labels by calling those who don't buy into your narrative.

"Youre officially a good little nazi, repeating what Goebbels tells you to think."

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Posted by Steven E on 01/21/2019 at 12:09 PM

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Posted by Bright Luisa on 01/21/2019 at 12:06 PM

Re: “Rapert will introduce anti-abortion 'trigger' law, despite public opinion to the contrary

Rapert doesn't respond to polls. He serves God, not Arkansas citizens. Isn't that how a democracy founded on Judeo-Christian values works?

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Posted by Doc on 01/21/2019 at 11:37 AM

Re: “Fact check: The annual anti-abortion march

Steven, I've seen all the various videos that are online, the students didn't cover themselves in glory, which is an understatement & yes they did encounter others who chose to bring a message of hate themselves. Needless to say, disagreement over this will abound.

When it comes to drumpf enabled hatred, there's no shortage. Exhibit A being his hate-rallies where he uses the language of the facist against the notion of a free press & incites his followers to violence against those who have the gall to oppose his policies.

"GOP not being the party selling false narratives, and exhorting followers to bully, beat and stifle dissent. "

Literally the GOP, or more accurately the drumpf-hijacked GOP, playbook. The silence of the GOP leadership over these past two year of this nation's drumpfian nightmare tells me all that I need to know.

"Facts matter, but not to the left. "

As drumpf denies his own actions in blatant contradiction to unambiguous evidence to the contrary. "I never mocked a disabled reporter!", "I never said Mexico would pay for the wall", "Chuck & Nancy shutdown the government!"

The "crisis" at the Southern border, the "criminal" "caravans" which suddenly pop into (& just as quickly out of) Fox "news" Official State Media radar depending on the needs of the Dear Leader, the "drugs", the "rape gangs", all swirl in a fact-free maelstrom of right-wing propaganda.

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Posted by tsallenarng on 01/21/2019 at 11:27 AM

Re: “Rapert will introduce anti-abortion 'trigger' law, despite public opinion to the contrary

Rapert will have no problem entering those pearly gates. He is in direct communication with the big fellow in the sky. If you don't believe him, just ask him and you will find out. He is in a select group that Falwell, Robertson, Criswell, Reed, Manson and others belong(ed) to.

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Posted by Cato1 on 01/21/2019 at 11:10 AM

Re: “Fact check: The annual anti-abortion march

Steven E. the only "blind stupidity" comes from trump cult followers like you, who support a traitor con man and hate America.

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Posted by kduke42 on 01/21/2019 at 11:08 AM

Re: “Rapert will introduce anti-abortion 'trigger' law, despite public opinion to the contrary

Nothing more than the much-derided sharia law except with a xian motif.

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Posted by wannabee conservative on 01/21/2019 at 11:07 AM

Re: “Rapert will introduce anti-abortion 'trigger' law, despite public opinion to the contrary

Ah yes, here comes the "ACLU Contributor", as his colleagues have nicknamed him. Let his coveted base pay for this litigation. Bet we'd see exactly how much they loved Bro. Rapert if they had to cough that up. Fame is fleeting!

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Posted by JulieM on 01/21/2019 at 11:03 AM

Re: “A cautionary casino tale from Tunica, Miss.

Our politicians and their Grifter supporters will see that article as an encouragement...milk the locals and suckers for as long as it lasts, then leave them with worthless stick-built fantasy palaces to be reclaimed by nature like Dogpatch. Their only question will be, where's the next Village of Idiots?

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Posted by Arbiter of All Things AOAT on 01/21/2019 at 10:53 AM

Re: “Fact check: The annual anti-abortion march

This incident shows the hate, the viciousness, the blind stupidity of the left.

That there are the mentally disabled that think "Our president has made racism mainstream--fashionable even. Wear your MAGA hat to your KKK meeting, on teevee, to political rallies, to school, to church, out to dinner--anywhere that you want to establish your privilege and make anyone who is not a white male uncomfortable and fearful." has been abundantly clear since Trump won.

As has been seen here, there are those that believe, without any evidence, at ALL, that the GOP is the party of hate, despite the GOP not being the party selling false narratives, and exhorting followers to bully, beat and stifle dissent.

Facts matter, but not to the left.

o, of course it isn't hateful to wear the damn hat. It doesn't reflect anything other than support for their president, one who happens to be pro-life, so little surprise they would wear the hat.

It is not surprising that Max Brantley, though, would jump on the lie, would post a tweet from someone who couldn't wait for facts, but had to distort an incident where pro-life students, who support the president and the president's pro-life stance were twisted by a lie.

For those few on this blog that are interested in the basic facts, which would definitely exclude Max Brantley, here is a real journalists reporting of the incident.

Of note, is the fact that before Mr. Phillips confronted the students, the students had been responding to homophobic slurs uttered by a hate group that was proselytizing their hate. I black, Hebrew hate group, that was questioned, by the students, "Gays people are human, too!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZTDIoywwG…

Now, if you are interested in the whole story, the blunt facts of the matter, here is the two hour video originally showing the hate group being confronted on their hate by the students.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3EC1_gcr3…

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Posted by Steven E on 01/21/2019 at 10:41 AM

Re: “Rapert will introduce anti-abortion 'trigger' law, despite public opinion to the contrary

This is no more nutty than those that voted to allow Traitor Tom cotton to
Run in two races , Senator and president and take his choice if he wins both,
, and the replacement to be appointed, ignoring the other candidates, many minds have been lost.

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Posted by Going for the record on 01/21/2019 at 10:33 AM

Re: “A cautionary casino tale from Tunica, Miss.

"Casinos have closed; employment has dropped two-thirds from its peak, and tax revenues have dropped by almost 50 percent."

Bring located in the midst of the most impoverished area of the nation probably doesn't help. Poor gamblers can only steal & sell grandma's collection of silver dollars once.

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Posted by tsallenarng on 01/21/2019 at 10:30 AM

Re: “Rapert will introduce anti-abortion 'trigger' law, despite public opinion to the contrary

So just to be clear, Rapert wants a law that will let the Feds determine, automatically, what will be legal in the state.

Fine with me but Rapert's seeming embrace of such a philosophy seems a tad at variance with the past "states-rights" ravings of he & his like-minded ilk.

I'm going to guess that he will NOT be filing any such similar automatic enabling legislation to cover the chance that Congress might one day pass a ban on certain types of firearms.

Also, what are the legal issues here? Is this a case of the legislative branch ceding state law-making powers to the Feds?

Jim Johnson would be spinning in his grave!

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Posted by tsallenarng on 01/21/2019 at 10:25 AM

Re: “A cautionary casino tale from Tunica, Miss.

Russellville continues to invest in projects that are not self supporting, the current
Boondoggle is a 20 M $ baseball complex in partnership with an operating
Partner that has no risk, but takes expenses plus 50 % of the profit. Tie that
To an aqua center that loses 300K $ per year, a 200 K $, convention center,
A million dollar investment in a beef jerky manufacturing plant plus loss of taxes
And rent, a model facility that never that will become fact, if they are forced to
Accept a casino, the city or county will give away the benefits , a 250 M $
Investment, gimme a break, Russellville would probably give up
property
Tax to the developers

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Posted by Going for the record on 01/21/2019 at 10:13 AM

Re: “Rapert will introduce anti-abortion 'trigger' law, despite public opinion to the contrary

if heaven is half of what it is cracked up to be, the inhabitants will have no memory of Rapert and will certainly not be forced or allowed to gaze upon whatever his eternal soul might be. He will be in his tricked out middle class pickup truck, on fire.

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Posted by Arbiter of All Things AOAT on 01/21/2019 at 10:12 AM

Re: “Arkansas legislature prepares new attacks on Constitution, abortion

I still contend if men got pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament.

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Posted by Bluesyoucanuse on 01/21/2019 at 10:09 AM

Re: “Rapert will introduce anti-abortion 'trigger' law, despite public opinion to the contrary

If it was not this issue it would be another that pushes his base to send money
To his religious based organizations. The real solution is to vote him out, probably elect another just as nutty. All. Of raperts action are self serving.

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Posted by Going for the record on 01/21/2019 at 10:05 AM

 

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