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Re: “Fergit it!

The South is infected with yankees is what is wrong with us here. The infection comes from a major, supersized infestation of yankees who have been moving here for, what, the past 150 years.
They bring poor manners with them. I would never move to yankeeland then bitterly complain about how y'all are and do things. But of course, I would not move there in the first place.
Most of those things y'all mention are from the children of the yankees who moved here.
If y'all would have let us go when we wanted to, we might still be having an infestation of yankees because everything would have been better here and all y'all would still want to move here, provided that there would have been no war. Just peaceful secession. BUT, we would not be invaded by south of the border people, that is for sure. Nor from any of those Caribbean island/countries. And, we would not be infested with all those immoral people who now come out and DEMAND to be legally married. This is not progress but is moving backwards. No thanks, yankeeland CAN have all of them.
Neither would there have been the mass murder of tens of millions of unborn children here in the South. This is our country's "holocaust". I guess these are the kind of things you proud yankees are proud of. I know I am not!

Posted by Jimmy6165 on 01/26/2011 at 1:01 PM

Re: “Fergit it!

No, Roland, he defended his country from invasion. He did not "take up arms against the US", the US took up arms against him. I suppose you have the same thought about Randy Weaver, eh?
This is not rocket surgery. The Southern States peacefully seceded. All they wanted was to be left alone. President Buchanan abided this. Der Fuhrer lincoln did not and summoned an army to invade the CS, although in his mind he did not recognise it as such. Therefore, he invaded his own country. How then can you, or anyone today, countenance this?
Suppose, for some unknown reason, the US decided to invade Arkansas and sent, say, 250,000 troops to overthrow the duly elected State government and set up some kind of rump government more to its liking. What would the fine folks of Arkansas do? Would they defend their State? Or would they roll over and say, "we cant do a thing about it."

Posted by Jimmy6165 on 01/25/2011 at 10:55 PM

Re: “Fergit it!

Roland,
Back in the war of 1861-65, no one sought to overthrow the US. On the contrary, it was the US that did seek to overthrow the CS.

Maybe some of you yanks might better respect the words and thoughts of General/President Dwight Eisenhower. In 1960, he said of Robert E. Lee, "General Robert E. Lee was, in my estimation, one of the supremely gifted men produced by our Nation. He believed unswervingly in the Constitutional validity of his cause which until 1865 was still an arguable question in America; he was thoughtful yet demanding of his officers and men, forbearing with captured enemies but ingenious, unrelenting and personally courageous in battle, and never disheartened by a reverse or obstacle. Through all his many trials, he remained selfless almost to a fault and unfailing in his belief in God. Taken altogether, he was noble as a leader and as a man, and unsullied as I read the pages of our history.
From deep conviction I simply say this: a nation of men of Lee’s caliber would be unconquerable in spirit and soul. Indeed, to the degree that present-day American youth will strive to emulate his rare qualities, including his devotion to this land as revealed in his painstaking efforts to help heal the nation’s wounds once the bitter struggle was over, we, in our own time of danger in a divided world, will be strengthened and our love of freedom sustained."

Posted by Jimmy6165 on 01/25/2011 at 8:13 PM

Re: “Fergit it!

NWAgardener,
You guys are the ones who keep this fight going on. You guys are the ones who keep writing slanderous, libelous things about us and our ancestors.
I say, you won, we lost, you get over it. To quote Jefferson Davis, "All we ask is to be left alone."

Posted by Jimmy6165 on 01/25/2011 at 7:20 PM

Re: “Fergit it!

Tap,
Excellent post.
Re: John Brown? The way I see it, Lee was charged with defending Richmond, the capital of the C.S.A. from attack by an invading foe. This he did very well and in accordance with the accepted rules of war until his resources were decimated by a relentless foe and the blockade.
Brown, on the other hand, sought to inspire the Black population in the olde South to commit mass murder upon all the White people of the olde South. His motivation was one thing, his tactics were those of a terrorist. Brown luxuriated in the thought of barrels and barrels of the spilled blood of all the White Southerners. Lee deplored war and saw only defensive war as justified.

Posted by Jimmy6165 on 01/25/2011 at 7:13 PM

Re: “Fergit it!

any*mouse,
Actually, it is the "union/yankee" apologists that never cease to amaze me. To this very day, the yankee continues to try and impose his way upon the rest of the world, whether they like it or not, as if he has all the answers to the world's troubles.
Just like then, the yankee has completely rejected the founding principles of Washington, Adams, Franklin and Jefferson, to wit:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

Posted by Jimmy6165 on 01/25/2011 at 6:59 PM

Re: “Fergit it!

Steven Estrada,
Robert E. Lee DID NOT "fight" to destroy the United States. He DID "fight" to defend Virginia from an unholy, illegal invasion. When the South seceded, had the lincoln regime not invaded the new nation, the Confederate States of America, there would have been no war. PERIOD!
Pscyclepath,
Upon secession and the declaration of independence by Florida and South Carolina, those forts were manned by foreign troops. Had they surrendered the forts, there would have been no war. And while President Buchanan thought secession unwise, he knew he had no authority to act, in the way the dictator lincoln did. Moreover, between Fort Pickens and the incident at Fort Sumter, Confederate authorities went to Washington to negotiate the settlements of all former Federal properties still in the new nation.
any*mouse,
Lee DID NOT commit treason. Just as two other Virginians, Winfield Scott and George Thomas, chose NOT to go with Virginia while Lee chose to go with Virginia, maybe the former could be considered as traitors for waging war against their native State.
eLwood
People keep repeating the lie that slavery was the only cause of secession. Even though that very notion is absurd, consider this anyway. Slavery was ALREADY protected in the Constitution. The first proposed 13th Amendment, the so-called Corwin Amendment, would have forever forbidden the federal government from interfering with the domestic institutions of all the States. lincoln mentioned it in his first inaugural and said he approved of it. It had already passed both houses in Congress before lincoln was sworn in, and was ratified by three States - Ohio in May of 1861, Maryland in January of 62 and Illinois later in that year, minus the first seven seceded States.
So had that been the biggest and mainest reason for secession, then why did not the South repeal their ordinances of secession, return to the United States, take part in the ratification and declared victory on principle?

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Posted by Jimmy6165 on 01/25/2011 at 5:33 PM
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