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Re: “Republicans retaliate against Blue Hog bloggers

Pathetic on the GOP's part, but, as you say, well within their rights. I've got a lot of respect for Matt and Jeff and hope they keep on doing their thing. We need all the critical thinking and investigative reporting we can get.

Posted by Skywalker on 05/26/2011 at 5:59 PM

Re: “Mike Huckabee: How good a friend of Israel? UPDATE

@Norma - If you believe the Bible, you have to do some serious twisting of it to NOT think that all the Jews, at some point, will be saved. Paul says it explicitly in Romans 11:25-27: "Lest you be wise in your own sight, I want you to understand this mystery, brothers: a partial hardening has come upon Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. And in this way all Israel will be saved, as it is written, 'The Deliverer will come from Zion, he will banish ungodliness from Jacob'; 'and this will be my covenant with them when I take away their sins.'"

The end of Zechariah (one of the Minor Prophets) also supports the view that all Jews will eventually be saved. It would make this comment way too long for me to quote Zechariah at length, but you can look up 12:7 thru the end of chapter 13.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?searc…

Also Ezekiel 37:15-28 (as in, Ezekiel saw them dry bones).
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?searc…

As far as dispensationalists teaching this about Israel/the Jews, it has been years since I read those books and articles (the height of my dispy-ism happened when I was 13). I do recall that you can find that teaching in Tim LaHaye and Jerry B. Jenkins' "Are We Living in the End Times?", a companion book to their Left Behind series.
Also, searching online...let's see...Dr. Thomas Ice, the executive director of the Pre-Trib Research Center, writes this article that mainly focuses on combating anti-Semitism. http://raptureready.com/featured/ice/tt13.…
Skimming it, I see that he explicitly refers to all Jews being saved in his conclusion.

If that's not enough, check out the Wikipedia article for 'dispensationalism.' It's peppered with references to the eventual salvation of the Jewish people (which dispy writers often call the nation of Israel, referring to it in a biblical sense, not a current political sense).

As for 'which Christians' - well, if you're asking for how many or what percentage, the Bible doesn't clue us in. Revelation 6:9 calls them "those who had been slain for the word of God and for the witness they had borne." Revelation 12:11 says that they "conquered [Satan] by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, for they loved not their lives even unto death."

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That only partially answers your question, because you're not just asking for documentation that these things are, in fact, believed. You also seem to be trying to bait me into admitting that dispy's believe the Jews will only be saved when they forsake their religion and worship another god. That will allow you to save face by demonstrating that fundamentalist Christians (and their interpretation of the Bible) are, indeed, as bigoted as you believe they are.

Sadly, I must concur with you that many fundie Christians are indeed bigoted, indeed uninterested in the truth -- in many areas. The Gospel is not one of those areas. Just because they're bigoted doesn't mean they're wrong about everything, and I think they get the Gospel right. Briefly, here's what they and I believe:

That there is an all-powerful, all-good God who created the universe to bring glory to himself.
That all people since the first pair have been born with a sin nature that defies and rebels against God, and that because we have sinned against him, we have earned the punishment of eternal hell.
That God could have left us in our sins and sent us all to hell, but he didn't. Instead he became a man and poured out his divine wrath upon himself in our place, so that he could instead clothe us with his own righteousness.
That Jesus of Nazareth is the Messiah prophesied in the Hebrew Bible and still awaited by devout Jews, though they disbelieve in him.
That he died on the cross for our sins, was buried, and rose on the third day.
That he physically ascended into heaven and will one day physically return from heaven and establish an earthly kingdom.
That he freely offers eternal life to any and all who will believe in him, even you, Norma, and even me.

Likely, that sounds like utter folly to you. But I don't think it's my place to try now to persuade you otherwise. "For Jews demand signs and Greeks seek wisdom, but we preach Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and folly to Gentiles, but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. For the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men." (1 Corinthians 1:22-25)

If you're genuinely curious, I'll be happy to do my best to answer more questions. Otherwise, I'll climb off my little cardboard preacher-box for now and quit writing super-long comments. Thank you for reading.

Posted by Skywalker on 05/04/2011 at 6:03 PM

Re: “Mike Huckabee: How good a friend of Israel? UPDATE

"The premillennial dispensationalist scenario ends with a catastrophic world war in the Middle East and the consignment of Jews to eternal hellfire."

As an ex-dispensationalist (and avid Left Behind fan back in the day), I can confirm this is bull****. Dispy's (as they're called) teach that while the Antichrist will heavily persecute and kill both Jews and Christians, in the end all remaining Jews will be saved.

Posted by Skywalker on 05/04/2011 at 10:12 AM

Re: “Tim Griffin: His town halls are screened

I feel I should point out that you have again mixed up Blue Arkansas and Blue Hog Report -- they're not the same thing.

Posted by Skywalker on 05/04/2011 at 10:03 AM

Re: “Pious profiteers

Gotta love those anonymous bloggers who spend hours researching juicy stories so the big boys can write articles about them and not give any attribution.

For those wondering, the "Democratic blogger" who gathered the facts that appear in this story is Matt Campbell of www.bluehogreport.com. Follow his stuff.

Posted by Skywalker on 04/19/2011 at 10:15 AM

Re: “Frontline on football

Riveting documentary. Upon finishing it, I was prepared to swear off allowing my baby boys to ever play football. The comments from Mr. Matheson obviously put things in a bit of a different light, though. Just goes to show that you can't take things at face value; you've got to dig deeper.

Even if the documentary is skewed, I think it still reveals a lot about our priorities here in AR, TX, and elsewhere. The quote from the Trinity High player at the end was devastating. Gist of it was, "You only get to be young once, so I'm going to play as hard as I can now and worry about the health risks later."

That's what kids want to do. That's what football fans want them to do, too (and I count myself a football fan). But is it worth it?

Posted by Skywalker on 04/15/2011 at 12:55 PM

Re: “Good day for highway tax increases

I argued with you the other day, Max, but there's no argument anymore...Republicans are officially culpable for letting this slip through. No fuzzy math required. Now sure, by amending it, they made it slightly less bad than it was...doesn't mean it's not bad. If you're against a tax increase, you're against a tax increase.

Posted by Skywalker on 03/24/2011 at 3:44 PM

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