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Re: “TGIF open line

WLR,

Thank you for providing that synopsis.
But is there any resource where the history of recent negotiations w/ PACT & PASS can be viewed? I would like to see the evidence for myself.

Don't take this the wrong way, but you're not exactly a citable source--which is fine. You're just some guy on the internet.
And frankly, due to your tone and apparent hyperbole, you come across as though you're seated at the grindstone with your axe as you type.
Which is fine for someone to do, but it's kind of a red flag when it comes to evaluating a source on the internet.

I'd just as soon find a source that seems more informational and less like an advocate. I'd just as soon see the evidence for myself.


As a rule of thumb, once you enter the work force, you'll find it's common for employees with greater experience, and/or greater qualifications to earn a larger salary than new recruits.

So, what you have posted so far--that teacher's who have been employed with the district longer teachers make more money than new hires--isn't really that much of a charge, imho.

You'll come to find it's a very, very, very common situation in the working world.

I mean, it's nice to be concerned about the kids fresh out of school. That's an appropriate concern.
But the salary discrepancies you've mentioned don't seem to be evidence of some sort of fiscal "perversion."
Most of us already in the workforce take it as more or less the way of the working world.
ymmv.

Perhaps you have some more or better evidence that PCSSD paying experienced teachers a larger salary than beginning teachers is somehow wrong or perverse?


I would like to see the evidence for myself.

1) Is there any reason to believe that PACT & PASS are no longer suitable negotiating partners? If not, then why are we monkeying with their standing?

2) Is there any resource where the history of recent negotiations w/ PACT & PASS can be viewed to evaluate the #1 question?

3) Is there a source where we can see the "corrupt payout scheme" for ourselves?

I would like to see the evidence for myself.

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Posted by The Ghost of Wilson Lateral on 04/30/2012 at 8:15 AM

Re: “TGIF open line

>WLR "Springdale pays for Ed.S not PhD and there is no M+45. They also go all the way up to step 30. And check out that boffo BA+0 step 1 salary... $43,000. $10,000 more than what's in the PCSSD PNA and all accomplished in the absense of a union. I have nothing bad to say about the Springdale system. "


I may be wrong, but it sounds as if PCSSD had Springdale's system, then PCSSD's bill would be that much larger than what it is with PCSSD's current salary structure.

That would be a step backward if what is desired is to lower expenses for PCSSD.
Is there some reason other than lowering PCSSD's expenses for recommending it?



Is there any resource where the history of recent negotiations w/ PACT & PASS can be viewed?

I would like to see the evidence for myself.

I would like to see if there is some reason to believe that the union is no longer a suitable negotiating partner.
If there's no evidence that that the union is no longer a suitable negotiating partner, then the motivation for no longer desiring to negotiate with the union could be for some other reason.

That reason might be a great one.

But, as this is not a clandestine govt agency, instead a local school district, the reasons for its major actions should be made available for any and all concerned citizens.

If the union is not unsuitable as a negotiator, then why bother to revoke their recognition?


Is there any resource where the history of recent negotiations w/ PACT & PASS can be viewed?

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Posted by The Ghost of Wilson Lateral on 04/29/2012 at 9:20 PM

 

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